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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 5:20:57 PM   
Gravitas

 

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Obvious troll is obvious.


In what way? Or is that the best you can do?


We could start with you skipping over two substantive comments in order to get to a comment that any normal person, any person who actually had faith in their opinion and wanted to have a discussion about it (perhaps by engaging with those two substantive comments), would have responded to with "I'm not a troll, fuck off".

Like, I mean, I'm not a Troll Hunter or anything, but if it quacks like a duck.


What substantive comments?


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 5:28:19 PM   
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A comment which contains substance rather than a statement which is not supported by evidence.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 5:59:18 PM   
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A comment which contains substance rather than a statement which is not supported by evidence.


You appear to be confused, pal.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 6:01:34 PM   
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You daft, trollling racist.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 6:03:48 PM   
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Tbh, I think he has a modicum of a point in his question of what today constitutes as racism (Is, for example, a Serbian hating an Albanian or vice-versa racism or xenophobia, etc).

The rest is nothing but disbelief gif worthy.


What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


Would you be so kind as to give us some examples of people who you think "make a career out of claiming racism"? Obviously, if you're making such statements with such confidence, you obviously have the evidence to back them up.

I would address the 'so-called Islamophobia' point, but Nexus already has, albeit far more bluntly than I would. I think that it's safe to say, though, that "what you're talking about here" is something I know only because I've heard other blinkered, horrifically privileged internet commenters make the exact same statements about how they're 'blind to race' and 'it's political correctness gone mad' and 'everyone's racist so why do you care' and 'we can't even define racism'. It's obfuscating what is actually a reasonably clear thing - JessFranco's third post in this thread is a brief and lucid outline of why everyone beats up on the white people you want to protect because 'they're not that bad, it's those pesky Asians!'


Here's two pal, - Yasmin Alibatshit-Brown and Al Sharpton..

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 12:44:14 AM   
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What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?


No, your "Asians" claim, even if Asian is as expansive from Japan, to Sri Lanka to Lebanon. I can only expect that from sme people coming from (some very) conservative countries. And if it wasn't for the European geopolitical ties, you could include Israel and Cyprus.

I congratulate you though, this is the first time I've not seen it to refer just to the Japanese, Chinese or Koreans. Bravo.

There's also the issue that you used "whites" and not at least "Western Europeans" (a claim I would still find annoying). Last time I checked, Ukraine, Russia and Azerbaijan can be very hostile is you're gay, but I guess that's an Asian thing for you. Whites? OH NO...

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These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.


Yes, the term can be abused and so can Islamophobia, just like every other term known to man, yet with you, it is proving to be 100% accurate.

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I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


Aren't you the guy who just claimed "Asians" and of this being an Asian thing? You really aren't the guy to be claiming things like these.

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Here's two pal, - Yasmin Alibatshit-Brown and Al Sharpton..


Al made a career out of that? Damn, I didn't know....It can be accused that Sharpton does that (with good evidence), but him making a career is over-exeggarrating.


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 3:02:17 AM   
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Tbh, I think he has a modicum of a point in his question of what today constitutes as racism (Is, for example, a Serbian hating an Albanian or vice-versa racism or xenophobia, etc).

The rest is nothing but disbelief gif worthy.


What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


Would you be so kind as to give us some examples of people who you think "make a career out of claiming racism"? Obviously, if you're making such statements with such confidence, you obviously have the evidence to back them up.

I would address the 'so-called Islamophobia' point, but Nexus already has, albeit far more bluntly than I would. I think that it's safe to say, though, that "what you're talking about here" is something I know only because I've heard other blinkered, horrifically privileged internet commenters make the exact same statements about how they're 'blind to race' and 'it's political correctness gone mad' and 'everyone's racist so why do you care' and 'we can't even define racism'. It's obfuscating what is actually a reasonably clear thing - JessFranco's third post in this thread is a brief and lucid outline of why everyone beats up on the white people you want to protect because 'they're not that bad, it's those pesky Asians!'


Here's two pal, - Yasmin Alibatshit-Brown and Al Sharpton..


Aside from the fact that he's a Baptist Minister and a television host, Al Sharpton is a well-respected civil rights activist who has made his mark by campaigning against injustices visited upon the African-American community by government organisations (most of the campaigns he's led have been against cops shooting young black men). He's no doubt had his low points (the Crown Heights riot), but he's still a tireless campaigner for equality and fairness in a country where the African-American community only had their civil rights recognised in law 48 years ago.

As for Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, she's a well-respected columnist on more than just race issues, and even then she's not exactly the inflammatory anti-white monster you want to paint her as. Hell, I only have to go to Wikipedia to see this -

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In May 2011, Alibhai-Brown wrote in the Independent that Muslims and others should stop focusing solely on the wrongdoings of Israel, saying that, "We Muslims need to accept our burdens too." She also said that, "It is no longer morally justifiable for activists to target only Israel and either ignore or find excuses for corrupt, murderous Arab despots. That kind of selectivity discredits pro-Palestinian campaigners and dishonours the principles of equality and human rights."[18] Brown previously condemned ethnic minority campaigners against racism failing to mention white victims of racially motivated crimes, suggesting they were guilty of double standards. Highlighting cases such as the murder of Ross Parker, Alibhai-Brown wrote: "Our values are worthless unless all victims of these senseless deaths matter equally", adding "to treat some victims as more worthy of condemnation than others is unforgivable and a betrayal of anti-racism itself".[19][20]


But even then, why is there a problem with people highlighting civil rights abuses and racism in society? These problems still exist, so why shouldn't people be calling our attention to them when they occur?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 8:55:45 AM   
sanchia


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A comment which contains substance rather than a statement which is not supported by evidence.


You appear to be confused, pal.



This for example is evidence that you are a troll and nothing more. That is an example of a substantive statement.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 12:21:05 PM   
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This for example is evidence that you are a troll and nothing more. That is an example of a substantive statement.


Every post he has posted is evidence that he is a troll.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:01:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sanchia

This for example is evidence that you are a troll and nothing more. That is an example of a substantive statement.


Every post he has posted is evidence that he is a troll.



Not at all. But your posts and some others are.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:09:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gravitas


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ORIGINAL: superdan


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ORIGINAL: sanchia

This for example is evidence that you are a troll and nothing more. That is an example of a substantive statement.


Every post he has posted is evidence that he is a troll.



Not at all. But your posts and some others are.


Interesting.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:10:06 PM   
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What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?


No, your "Asians" claim, even if Asian is as expansive from Japan, to Sri Lanka to Lebanon. I can only expect that from sme people coming from (some very) conservative countries. And if it wasn't for the European geopolitical ties, you could include Israel and Cyprus.

I congratulate you though, this is the first time I've not seen it to refer just to the Japanese, Chinese or Koreans. Bravo.

There's also the issue that you used "whites" and not at least "Western Europeans" (a claim I would still find annoying). Last time I checked, Ukraine, Russia and Azerbaijan can be very hostile is you're gay, but I guess that's an Asian thing for you. Whites? OH NO...

quote:

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.


Yes, the term can be abused and so can Islamophobia, just like every other term known to man, yet with you, it is proving to be 100% accurate.

quote:

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


Aren't you the guy who just claimed "Asians" and of this being an Asian thing? You really aren't the guy to be claiming things like these.

quote:

Here's two pal, - Yasmin Alibatshit-Brown and Al Sharpton..


Al made a career out of that? Damn, I didn't know....It can be accused that Sharpton does that (with good evidence), but him making a career is over-exeggarrating.



I have followed these people for years - I know the shit they come out with. I don't have to find out who they are on Wiki.

Here in England we think of Asians as being Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (one happy group) - rather than the American "definition".

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:12:01 PM   
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This for example is evidence that you are a troll and nothing more. That is an example of a substantive statement.


Every post he has posted is evidence that he is a troll.



Not at all. But your posts and some others are.


Interesting.



Have you ever heard the saying about "people in glass houses".

It's funny how Lefties can't see irony - such hypocrites.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:17:05 PM   
sanchia


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You are a Yahoo poster aren't you? I knew it. The old leftie jibes a textbook cliché. You'll be making that Dog and Stable quote next.



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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:35:19 PM   
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I'm just waiting for the inevitable dhimmitude comment personally.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:42:02 PM   
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I think you overestimate him.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:42:38 PM   
Gravitas

 

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You are a Yahoo poster aren't you? I knew it. The old leftie jibes a textbook cliché. You'll be making that Dog and Stable quote next.




If it is, it's because it is so true.

Just like if someone has concerns about mass unfeterred immigration - they are accused routinely as being racists by Left-wing wankers.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 1:45:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gravitas


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ORIGINAL: sanchia

You are a Yahoo poster aren't you? I knew it. The old leftie jibes a textbook cliché. You'll be making that Dog and Stable quote next.




If it is, it's because it is so true.


A bit like the cliche about Daily Mail readers being knee-jerking ignorant bigots?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 2:03:02 PM   
sanchia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gravitas


quote:

ORIGINAL: sanchia

You are a Yahoo poster aren't you? I knew it. The old leftie jibes a textbook cliché. You'll be making that Dog and Stable quote next.




If it is, it's because it is so true.

Just like if someone has concerns about mass unfeterred immigration - they are accused routinely as being racists by Left-wing wankers.


Indeed it is true that the old leftie jibe is a textbook cliché. I am glad you agree with me there. You see there is a difference between being against current levels of immigration and retorting to stereotyping which does appear to be something you are guilty of as you are of accusing people of being left wing etc. when you have no actual identifiable proof of political allegience. Once again stereotyping of the sort that is "if anyone disagrees with me they are wrong. If you wish to put forward valid points with evidence to back them up feel free, if you wish to resort to opinion and stereotyping then you have to expect to be ridiculed.


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 4:25:25 PM   
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I have followed these people for years - I know the shit they come out with. I don't have to find out who they are on Wiki.


Oh so you're a stalker. Also I don't think you do...

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Here in England we think of Asians as being Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (one happy group) - rather than the American "definition".


And you do realize the ethnic and religious differences between those groups right (who occasionally hate each other) and how silly it is to branch them in one group, right? I don't think you do. Even between Indians you find find massive differences, let alone the three together.

Oh and it's not an American definition either. It's quite done in the West and even found in South American countries.


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 4:31:13 PM   
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Don't you know the Indians and Pakistanis are all the same, no difference in religion of political allegiances or anything.

I suppose it is better than the alternate label often used by people who stereotype which is pretty offensive.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 4:45:02 PM   
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Thanks fuck all the Indians are Punjabs from Mumbai too. No differences in language, religion, appearance, culture, oh no, nothing of the sort. The Indians also love being put in the same group of the Bengladeshis and the Pakistani.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 5:28:26 PM   
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Here in England we think of Asians as being Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (one happy group) - rather than the American "definition".


*Sigh*

I'm starting to miss Vad3r.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 5:29:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gravitas

Here in England we think of Asians as being Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (one happy group) - rather than the American "definition".


*Sigh*

I'm starting to miss Vad3r.


I'm not convinced he ever left.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 5:33:49 PM   
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Here in England we think of Asians as being Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis (one happy group) - rather than the American "definition".


*Sigh*

I'm starting to miss Vad3r.


I'm not convinced he ever left.


It's been over a day since the words "single virgin" have appeared on the forum, he's either gone or is still on here, writing an epic 50,000-word post entirely in italics under a random post by Sway.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 5:39:35 PM   
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I'm going to send him a PM.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 8:13:34 PM   
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I'm going to send him a PM.


Yeah, do that. What's the worst that could happen?

Oh, wait...........

(oh, and just because vad3r hasn't posted, doesn't mean he isn't reading )


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 11:40:09 PM   
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Or waiting in the bushes outside your house.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 15/9/2012 11:56:43 PM   
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Or waiting in the bushes outside your house.


Crying while he does it.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 16/9/2012 12:01:11 AM   
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Or waiting in the bushes outside your house.


If this was the case, I'd invite him in. It'd be nice to meet another forumite......

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