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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 7:26:41 PM   
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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 7:30:01 PM   
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It's a shame, I was hoping for a good ol' discussion filled with generalizations OF ENTIRE CONTINENTS AND GROUPS

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 7:34:17 PM   
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I'm sure Gravitas will back soon to expand on his/her ill-judged opinions opinions quite soon.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 8:32:14 PM   
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but that Scotland/England thing really ticked me off.


Well, not Scotch-land but, a(n English) friend of mine lives in Ireland (couldn't tell you where - not visited since he moved and I can't tell you off the top of my head), and his next door neighbour hates the English. And there's no phobia about it - it's very definitely a race (or, if we are applying "race" to one's skin colour, then nationality) thing.

This same friend is normally a very laid back approachable guy and gets on with everyone, but he said there's an extreme Love Thy Neighbour vibe between him and this guy and, last time I spoke to him, he said he wished Cromwell had been a bit more thorough (which you could argue is itself a racist statement, but that's how the whole thing has made him think and feel).

EDIT - what I forgot to include was that my mate feels like he is at the receiving end of racism.


I bet he loves Man Utd though.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 8:33:10 PM   
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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 8:37:04 PM   
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I like the idea that Asians are one group and don't have whites among them.


Not really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuristani_people

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 9:13:23 PM   
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I like the idea that Asians are one group and don't have whites among them.


Not really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuristani_people


I know, I know. I was being sarcastic. Also, many Syrians and Lebanese are about as white as your average Greek or Turk.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 9:28:40 PM   
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So now you got it in for the Greeks and Turks. Putting on your white sheet tonight eh?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 9:41:37 PM   
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Hey listen, I think that people from the Mediterranean are nothing but pseudo-whites ok? For example, Greeks invented gayness, Italians invented bunga bunga and the Roman Catholic Church and the Turks gave us the Janissairies, an occasionally very hard enemy in Assassin's Creed Revelations. No great white person could invent this.

If it was for me, I'd nuke every single Mediterranean nation from the planet. Oh no, wait...oh.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 9:47:06 PM   
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Everywhere but Ibiza, and the part of Greece that maks that cool yoghurt!

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 13/9/2012 10:39:37 PM   
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Ibiza? That overrated Spanish thing with all that loud music? That should go out first.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 9:50:58 AM   
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I think the world would just be a better place if we removed all the Maltese from it and jettisoned them into space, that totally doesn't make me racist or xenophobic, you can't even define those concepts anyway, am I right Gravitas

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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:12:43 AM   
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It's the only way I can express my disbelief at today's postings.


To be fair you are not the only one who has difficulty stringing a few coherent words together.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:17:42 AM   
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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:27:27 AM   
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Tbh, I think he has a modicum of a point in his question of what today constitutes as racism (Is, for example, a Serbian hating an Albanian or vice-versa racism or xenophobia, etc).

The rest is nothing but disbelief gif worthy.


What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:30:37 AM   
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I'm sure Gravitas will back soon to expand on his/her ill-judged opinions opinions quite soon.


What is ill-judged about them? May I suggest you use a few (ideally coherent) words.

String a few sentences together.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:33:50 AM   
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To be fair you are not the only one who has difficulty stringing a few coherent words together.


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I'm sure Gravitas will back soon to expand on his/her ill-judged opinions opinions quite soon.


What is ill-judged about them? May I suggest you use a few (ideally coherent) words.

String a few sentences together.



Like that phrase, don't you?


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:55:46 AM   
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These days almost anything can be deemed racist, and some people make a career out of claiming racism wherever they imagine it and it gets debated on the radio and TV. And then we have so called "Islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about, and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.



Fixed a few spelling/grammar errors in your post.

Have you considered using some more coherent words? Or stringing some sentences together?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 11:56:42 AM   
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Tbh, I think he has a modicum of a point in his question of what today constitutes as racism (Is, for example, a Serbian hating an Albanian or vice-versa racism or xenophobia, etc).

The rest is nothing but disbelief gif worthy.


What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


'So called Islamophobia'? So its 'so called' when a woman wearing a hijab on the bus gets it torn off her head and all manner of hate spewn in her face? Or another Muslim woman getting punched in the face and labelled a 'terrorist' by some bigoted twat? And countless of attacks which don't get reported? Mate you must be living on another planet, a planet where everyones got blinkers on.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:07:28 PM   
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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:08:59 PM   
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Tbh, I think he has a modicum of a point in his question of what today constitutes as racism (Is, for example, a Serbian hating an Albanian or vice-versa racism or xenophobia, etc).

The rest is nothing but disbelief gif worthy.


What rest? The homophobia? Is this really news to you?

These days almost anything can be deemed racist - and some people make a career out of claiming racism where ever they imagine it and it get's debated on the radio and TV - And then we have so called "islamophobia" that the paranoid Muslims bang on about - and are doing so as we speak on the phone-ins today.

I take it you folks will know what I'm talking about here (but I wouldn't bank on it)?


Would you be so kind as to give us some examples of people who you think "make a career out of claiming racism"? Obviously, if you're making such statements with such confidence, you obviously have the evidence to back them up.

I would address the 'so-called Islamophobia' point, but Nexus already has, albeit far more bluntly than I would. I think that it's safe to say, though, that "what you're talking about here" is something I know only because I've heard other blinkered, horrifically privileged internet commenters make the exact same statements about how they're 'blind to race' and 'it's political correctness gone mad' and 'everyone's racist so why do you care' and 'we can't even define racism'. It's obfuscating what is actually a reasonably clear thing - JessFranco's third post in this thread is a brief and lucid outline of why everyone beats up on the white people you want to protect because 'they're not that bad, it's those pesky Asians!'

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:16:55 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:21:17 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:25:51 PM   
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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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Stop being mean to Deviation

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:29:14 PM   
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I did not know Dan had quoted, I left to get the post so didn't refresh the page

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 12:48:45 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


In what way? Or is that the best you can do?

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 1:15:17 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


In what way? Or is that the best you can do?


He's right though. You are an obvious troll.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 1:27:53 PM   
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Oh noes some anonymous message board user picked my grammar apart.

My day is ruined now.

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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 1:55:57 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


In what way? Or is that the best you can do?


We could start with you skipping over two substantive comments in order to get to a comment that any normal person, any person who actually had faith in their opinion and wanted to have a discussion about it (perhaps by engaging with those two substantive comments), would have responded to with "I'm not a troll, fuck off".

Like, I mean, I'm not a Troll Hunter or anything, but if it quacks like a duck.

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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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RE: Race issues: Is the media too black and white. - 14/9/2012 5:18:27 PM   
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Obvious troll is obvious.


In what way? Or is that the best you can do?


He's right though. You are an obvious troll.


Again in what way?

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