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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 14/4/2012 6:40:10 PM   
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 Enjoyed this a lot. Haven't quite fell in love with like others have, but it's hugely entertaining.

And were they Gremlins and the Scarecrows from Doctor Who we see at one point?


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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 14/4/2012 7:24:17 PM   
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Itz staggering how it seems the movie goerz have embraced this excuse for a "horror film".The makers of Buffy have just BUFFIED all over the horror film genre.This movie sucked.I adore horror and sci-fi,so I think that qualifies me as a "fan" who,2 quote a critic,wud "GET IT".There's nothing to get.Therez meta and therz STUPID,this falls into the latter category.Sum1 shud tell ole Josh to stop writing.The whole thing came across as cheap,tacky and meaningless,and the attempt @ Lovecraft was the ONLY laugh I got out of it. There goez Avengers A-wotever


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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 14/4/2012 7:40:45 PM   
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Enjoyed this a lot. Haven't quite fell in love with like others have, but it's hugely entertaining.


Yeah, I think you and I are on the same page regarding this film.

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And were they Gremlins and the Scarecrows from Doctor Who we see at one point?



I didn't notice them but it's cool if they were there.

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 8:15:32 AM   
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Spoiler ahead:

Did anyone else think that the twist was going to be that "the fool" was also going to turn out to be "the virgin" and kill the girl to save the world?

its in inviso text

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 8:36:36 AM   
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 Yes, I did, actually. They made a big point about her being a virgin, despite it being established in the opening few minutes that she'd been having an affair with her college professor. Plot hole or dropped scene?

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 11:03:25 AM   
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 @Sledge Hammer

Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing. They definitely signposted that as a possibility, but it might have ended up seeming a cop out. I think the actual ending was possible cooler.

Spoiler :
Though it does seem a ridiculous decision not to kill him. None of them were getting back out of that bunker anyway with all those beasties free.

Generally I thought The Cabin In The Woods was great fun, with so many twists and great ideas and so so much going on. But it wasn't quite as funny or satirical as it thought it was, and the characters were definitely thin - I can't remember any of their names for example, except Larry the Intern. Harder to invest in them because of this. It was almost too removed from the actual events in its attempt to make a point. This was the beauty of Scream - it satirised whilst remaining visceral and gripping.

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I liked it - 15/4/2012 11:07:20 AM   
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Great fun, smart script, solid cast, viewing rife with knowing chuckles and one or two genuine gasps. Sold.

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RE: I liked it - 15/4/2012 1:03:17 PM   
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 Actually thought it was very MEH.

Nowhere near as smart as it thinks it is, actually pretty predictable and falls on other horror cliches whilst making fun of others (Gods/rituals).
I did laugh at parts but I honestly could not enjoy it.

2.5/5

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RE: I liked it - 15/4/2012 1:11:18 PM   
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Nowhere near as smart as it thinks it is,


I have never understood this phrase - can you expand on this? Interested to see the criticism laid out.

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RE: I liked it - 15/4/2012 1:24:45 PM   
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Isn't it a fairly easy phrase though? A film that presents seems to present something clever on the surface but isn't really? Like completely investing in spouting cod profoundity that actually sound like childish nonsense - ergo, not as clever as it thinks it is? A relative close relative of pretentious but generally more specific, I think. 

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RE: I liked it - 15/4/2012 1:30:05 PM   
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 I suppose, but I don't think the film bashes people over the head with "look how smart we are!!" - in a lot of ways it is like Robocop and Starship Troopers. You don't need to overthink it if you don't want to.

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RE: I liked it - 15/4/2012 1:42:40 PM   
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Ah, sorry - I thought you meant the phrase generally not just the use of the phrase for this film. Not seen it yet. I was going to but just went back to Pirates again


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Marc Evans is better than Joss Whedon - 15/4/2012 2:18:31 PM   
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My Little Eye. Edgier, darker and certainly not a 15 certificate lol

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 3:15:06 PM   
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Yes, I did, actually. They made a big point about her being a virgin, despite it being established in the opening few minutes that she'd been having an affair with her college professor. Plot hole or dropped scene?


SPOILER RESPONSE
Well, isn't the whole point of it is that none of the kids are what they are labeled as being? They were manipulated into playing those parts? It's the same with Thor being a smart kid rather than the tough jock he was forced into playing. Five kids picked and given labels by the company, so they obviously knew what they were like in real life. They knew she wasn't a virgin but like Ripley said- 'you work with what you're given' (or words like that).

And I did like the line at the end that Thor doesn't even have a cousin.

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My Little Eye. Edgier, darker and certainly not a 15 certificate lol

Spoken like someone who hasn't watched the film they are comparing another to.

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 3:32:38 PM   
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Am seeing this tomorrow, will comment than, can't wait!

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 3:47:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: matty_b

Yes, I did, actually. They made a big point about her being a virgin, despite it being established in the opening few minutes that she'd been having an affair with her college professor. Plot hole or dropped scene?


SPOILER RESPONSE
Well, isn't the whole point of it is that none of the kids are what they are labeled as being? They were manipulated into playing those parts? It's the same with Thor being a smart kid rather than the tough jock he was forced into playing. Five kids picked and given labels by the company, so they obviously knew what they were like in real life. They knew she wasn't a virgin but like Ripley said- 'you work with what you're given' (or words like that).

And I did like the line at the end that Thor doesn't even have a cousin.

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My Little Eye. Edgier, darker and certainly not a 15 certificate lol

Spoken like someone who hasn't watched the film they are comparing another to.


Hm, good point. javascript:void(AddText(''))

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See it! because...well...it's pretty good - 15/4/2012 4:30:38 PM   
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I think I enjoyed this so much because i went in not expecting too much, having seen the hugely misleading trailer and thinking i was about to see a fun but average slasher movie, I came out sides aching with laugher, it's bloody funny! there's a cameo you do not see coming, it's a bit ridiculous, but not crossing the line into mindless stupidity, and if there's one thing i learned from it, you should always, ALWAYS carry a huge bong, because it's gonna come in handy.

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See it! because...well...it's pretty good - 15/4/2012 4:31:00 PM   
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I think I enjoyed this so much because i went in not expecting too much, having seen the hugely misleading trailer and thinking i was about to see a fun but average slasher movie, I came out sides aching with laugher, it's bloody funny! there's a cameo you do not see coming, it's a bit ridiculous, but not crossing the line into mindless stupidity, and if there's one thing i learned from it, you should always, ALWAYS carry a huge bong, because it's gonna come in handy.

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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 15/4/2012 4:36:15 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Itz staggering how it seems the movie goerz have embraced this excuse for a "horror film".The makers of Buffy have just BUFFIED all over the horror film genre.This movie sucked.I adore horror and sci-fi,so I think that qualifies me as a "fan" who,2 quote a critic,wud "GET IT".There's nothing to get.Therez meta and therz STUPID,this falls into the latter category.Sum1 shud tell ole Josh to stop writing.The whole thing came across as cheap,tacky and meaningless,and the attempt @ Lovecraft was the ONLY laugh I got out of it. There goez Avengers A-wotever


Oh dear.


I second your 'oh dear'

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Horrible ending - 15/4/2012 4:37:37 PM   
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The ending - and the whole third act in general - was one of the worst in recent years. The big revelation of things was already given to the viewers right from the opening credits through the movie with little hints. Whedon and Goddard were trusting to the intellect of the horror-cinema-literate audience, but right at the end they decided that they should tell the whole thing again for all the stupid people. And so they brought some washed-out old horror icon to do cameo and give extreme exposition.

It's bad because telling the whole concept just makes you realize how stupid the whole thing really is. But if they had leave things for your imagination it wouldn't seem so bad.

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RE: Horrible ending - 15/4/2012 4:42:48 PM   
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The ending - and the whole third act in general - was one of the worst in recent years. The big revelation of things was already given to the viewers right from the opening credits through the movie with little hints. Whedon and Goddard were trusting to the intellect of the horror-cinema-literate audience, but right at the end they decided that they should tell the whole thing again for all the stupid people. And so they brought some washed-out old horror icon to do cameo and give extreme exposition.

It's bad because telling the whole concept just makes you realize how stupid the whole thing really is. But if they had leave things for your imagination it wouldn't seem so bad.


Totally disagree with all of this. As for the cameo - that is just another layer of the joke.

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RE: Horrible ending - 15/4/2012 4:50:04 PM   
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quote:

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The ending - and the whole third act in general - was one of the worst in recent years. The big revelation of things was already given to the viewers right from the opening credits through the movie with little hints. Whedon and Goddard were trusting to the intellect of the horror-cinema-literate audience, but right at the end they decided that they should tell the whole thing again for all the stupid people. And so they brought some washed-out old horror icon to do cameo and give extreme exposition.

It's bad because telling the whole concept just makes you realize how stupid the whole thing really is. But if they had leave things for your imagination it wouldn't seem so bad.


Whoah. she is not 'washed out' nor is she 'washed up' which I think you meant.

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 5:20:12 PM   
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SPOILER RESPONSE
Well, isn't the whole point of it is that none of the kids are what they are labeled as being? They were manipulated into playing those parts? It's the same with Thor being a smart kid rather than the tough jock he was forced into playing. Five kids picked and given labels by the company, so they obviously knew what they were like in real life. They knew she wasn't a virgin but like Ripley said- 'you work with what you're given' (or words like that).


Quoting myself to add this-

Highlight- Thinking about it and if I was to guess, the changes were so extreme that the main girl is probably really the slutty one in real life. And a bitch going by her willingness to kill 'The Fool', I think her apology was the character talking again.....

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ORIGINAL: Pelle

The ending - and the whole third act in general - was one of the worst in recent years. The big revelation of things was already given to the viewers right from the opening credits through the movie with little hints. Whedon and Goddard were trusting to the intellect of the horror-cinema-literate audience, but right at the end they decided that they should tell the whole thing again for all the stupid people. And so they brought some washed-out old horror icon to do cameo and give extreme exposition.

It's bad because telling the whole concept just makes you realize how stupid the whole thing really is. But if they had leave things for your imagination it wouldn't seem so bad.


I'm pretty sure that is the joke.....

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RE: The Cabin In The Woods - 15/4/2012 11:44:29 PM   
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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 16/4/2012 1:26:50 AM   
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I can't help but think that someone entered the wrong number of stars. This was easily a 4 starrer.

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RE: Great idea,WASTED - 16/4/2012 10:13:24 AM   
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 Enjoyed this though think as per usuall the trailer gave away 1 of the main spoilers.

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- 16/4/2012 10:59:39 AM   
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I had great fun watching this:) Watching it a second time made it just as much fun spotting more bits and pieces!

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Awesome Movie - 16/4/2012 3:41:06 PM   
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The most entertaining film I have seen in the cinema in a long time.

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RE: Awesome Movie - 16/4/2012 7:13:48 PM   
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I was waiting for this one for years. Literally. Was it a 'game changer'? No. Not in my opinion. I wanted to love it. I never but I did enjoy it and that's enough I suppose. It's a heartfelt, fresh and clever look at the genre but personally I felt it could have gone even further.

It's interesting, as a self confessed die hard fan of horror, seeing some of the more positive reactions to this. In my opinion I felt some of the praise is a bit OTT for what the film actually delivered but then again everyone has different opinions and tastes.

Shifty I'll PM you some more in depth thoughts on this if you happen on this Don't really wanna be posting spoilers in here.

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RE: Awesome Movie - 17/4/2012 4:22:15 PM   
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Read and replied, mate

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