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RE: A fucking teen book? - 17/3/2012 11:35:31 PM   
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I cannot wait for The Expendables 2 thread.



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RE: A fucking teen book? - 17/3/2012 11:37:31 PM   
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I won't go to see this because I can't buy it from a porno store. If it isn't R-18, I'm not interested.

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RE: A fucking teen book? - 17/3/2012 11:48:03 PM   
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I cannot wait for The Expendables 2 thread.




That shouldn't be cut. My prediction is, it'll be an uncut 15 in the UK.


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RE: A fucking teen book? - 17/3/2012 11:59:01 PM   
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I cannot wait for The Expendables 2 thread.




That shouldn't be cut. My prediction is, it'll be an uncut 15 in the UK.



I think it's a 12A Never mind, the first one was poor.

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RE: A fucking teen book? - 17/3/2012 11:59:35 PM   
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I want to see this film but I won't see it at the cinema. The reason isn't because I'm angry and all 'fuck 12A!!!!!!' it's just that I actually would rather see the uncut version. I'm a believer in seeing films the way the director intended so the edited version isn't for me. I fully understand why it was edited though and I am still a supporter of the BBFC. I'll just wait until I can see the full version 


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RE: A fucking teen book? - 18/3/2012 12:07:46 AM   
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This is true but I want to see the uncut version and if I have to wait until the Blu Ray comes out, then so be it (if it's uncut, of course).

Also, I just can't afford to go to the cinema these days, so I don't want to spend a load of cash seeing an edited film.


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RE: The Hunger Games - 18/3/2012 7:47:46 PM   
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I have no knowledge of the source material whatsoever, but the flick looks quite good, even though the premise is well-worn. Might check it out when it arrives on Blu.

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RE: The Hunger Games - 18/3/2012 10:23:22 PM   
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I'm glad to see that this is getting very good reviews, just finished the last book this morning and it's an excellent trilogy. Especially towards the end of book 3, I think it really pushes the boundaries of you can stick in a 'young adult' book. It sounds like Gary Ross navigated the violence content with clever editing, but whoever tackles Mockingjay is in for a serious challeng! If the film(s) are massive enough, it wouldn't surprise me if we got a new BBFC certificate - 15A or something

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RE: The Hunger Games - 18/3/2012 11:40:13 PM   
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RE: A fucking teen book? - 19/3/2012 4:03:30 PM   
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This is true but I want to see the uncut version and if I have to wait until the Blu Ray comes out, then so be it (if it's uncut, of course).

Also, I just can't afford to go to the cinema these days, so I don't want to spend a load of cash seeing an edited film.



You're going to wait until they put back in seven seconds? Really? How much difference is seven seconds even going to make?

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RE: A fucking teen book? - 19/3/2012 4:28:59 PM   
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This is true but I want to see the uncut version and if I have to wait until the Blu Ray comes out, then so be it (if it's uncut, of course).

Also, I just can't afford to go to the cinema these days, so I don't want to spend a load of cash seeing an edited film.



You're going to wait until they put back in seven seconds? Really? How much difference is seven seconds even going to make?

It's not just seven seconds, they have also removed blood and darkened some scenes to lessen the impact. Plus, as I've said, I can't even afford to see it in the cinema. If it is the edited version on dvd/blu ray, then I'll watch that but I'd prefer to see it uncut



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RE: A fucking teen book? - 19/3/2012 6:53:12 PM   
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This is true but I want to see the uncut version and if I have to wait until the Blu Ray comes out, then so be it (if it's uncut, of course).

Also, I just can't afford to go to the cinema these days, so I don't want to spend a load of cash seeing an edited film.



You're going to wait until they put back in seven seconds? Really? How much difference is seven seconds even going to make?

It's not just seven seconds, they have also removed blood and darkened some scenes to lessen the impact. Plus, as I've said, I can't even afford to see it in the cinema. If it is the edited version on dvd/blu ray, then I'll watch that but I'd prefer to see it uncut

Okay heres the thing it wont make any money if the kid who read the book is not old enough to see it. When I bought the trilogy for fifteen yo sis I found it in WaterStones book shop in the kiddy section not far away from the Gruffolo.

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RE: The Hunger Games...Childrens Books - 19/3/2012 7:01:07 PM   
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Lets be clear about all the hoo har about a uncut version why isnt it rated 15 blah blah the books are for kids I first came across the books after I watched an awful film called Abduction starring Twilights Taylor Lautner, the book was given to me for free when I bought my ticket. I gave the book to my teenage sister she loved it so I went out and bought the next two books in the trilogy, I went to Waterstones book shop I found the books in the Kids section not too far away from The Gruffalo so that says a lot really and if you have no knowledge of Hunger Games books this is because you are an adult.

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RE: A fucking teen book? - 19/3/2012 7:05:30 PM   
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Okay heres the thing it wont make any money if the kid who read the book is not old enough to see it. When I bought the trilogy for fifteen yo sis I found it in WaterStones book shop in the kiddy section not far away from the Gruffolo.


I'm fully aware of that and as I have actually said before, I know why the BBFC asked for cuts. I'm not saying anything against the BBFC or even the cuts, I just want to see the film that the director made. The film is a PG-13 in the US, uncut, and the MPAA are far more lenient with violence, for some reason. There are plenty of PG-13's that are rated 15 in the UK but, as mentioned, that just wouldn't work in this instance based on the source material. The film is 15 material though, obviously or it wouldn't be cut in the first place......

Just because I want to see the uncut version of the film doesn't mean to say I was complaining


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anybody else - 20/3/2012 2:28:28 PM   
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wondering how much this review cost?

For a film that is basically Battle Royale meets They Shoot Horses Don't They?. With a side of Twilight.

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RE: anybody else - 20/3/2012 2:56:30 PM   
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wondering how much this review cost?

For a film that is basically Battle Royale meets They Shoot Horses Don't They?. With a side of Twilight.


So you've seen it? And you don't agree with the review? Care to offer any reasons why?

Or can you not offer a genuine opinion on the film? Maybe you haven't seen it and you're therefore making an uneducated guess based on your preconceptions of the books?

I, like most, haven't seen it yet. I had never actually intended on seeing it. Based purely off the trailer I wasn't clicking with the future designs (Elizabeth Banks costume in particular) and the overall concept, however the positive responses to it may sway my decision. I'm intrigued by the hype, but damn some of the costume/production design looks awful - is there a reason the costumes/sets seem so fucking crazy?



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RE: anybody else - 20/3/2012 9:12:32 PM   
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wondering how much this review cost?

For a film that is basically Battle Royale meets They Shoot Horses Don't They?. With a side of Twilight.


Battle Royale is well overdue for a Blu Ray purchase, forget this other thing.

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RE: anybody else - 20/3/2012 9:54:54 PM   
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wondering how much this review cost?

For a film that is basically Battle Royale meets They Shoot Horses Don't They?. With a side of Twilight.


So you've seen it? And you don't agree with the review? Care to offer any reasons why?

Or can you not offer a genuine opinion on the film? Maybe you haven't seen it and you're therefore making an uneducated guess based on your preconceptions of the books?

I, like most, haven't seen it yet. I had never actually intended on seeing it. Based purely off the trailer I wasn't clicking with the future designs (Elizabeth Banks costume in particular) and the overall concept, however the positive responses to it may sway my decision. I'm intrigued by the hype, but damn some of the costume/production design looks awful - is there a reason the costumes/sets seem so fucking crazy?




Yeah, in the books the rich capitol folks are shown to have a penchant for vulgar costumes and appearances - those aspects are quite deliberate.

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RE: anybody else - 21/3/2012 8:10:23 PM   
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I've managed to avoid all hype until now but I really like the look of this.  I'm not into films being cut for ratings usually but it seems to make perfect sense here.

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RE: anybody else - 21/3/2012 9:45:23 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.

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RE: anybody else - 21/3/2012 11:54:11 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Thanks for coming all the way out here and taking the time to tell everyone.

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 8:38:20 AM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Well, I liked this story better when it was called The Lord of the Flies. Aren't I special little snowflake?

(also. I think THG is more Battle Royale 2 than the first Battle Royale)

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 12:17:44 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Well, I liked this story better when it was called The Lord of the Flies. Aren't I special little snowflake?

(also. I think THG is more Battle Royale 2 than the first Battle Royale)


Aw, and I was looking forward to it and everything.

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 1:11:58 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Well, I liked this story better when it was called The Lord of the Flies. Aren't I special little snowflake?

(also. I think THG is more Battle Royale 2 than the first Battle Royale)


Haven't seen BR 2 but as has already been pointed out, those films aren't necessarily entirely original themselves.  Yes The Hunger Games does at first resemble a teenage mishmash of BR and The Running Man, but combined with the rest of the story and the themes going on, it is it's own story.

Not sure what the big deal is really - most films have similarities to others.  There aren't that many that can be described as truly original snowflakes!


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RE: A fucking teen book? - 22/3/2012 1:47:40 PM   
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Big gun literary series? Maybe if your idea of a challenging read is heat magazine.

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RE: A fucking teen book? - 22/3/2012 2:06:50 PM   
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Big gun literary series? Maybe if your idea of a challenging read is heat magazine.


It is a big gun literary series. The books are in the top ten on Amazon Kindle as we speak. Now is it a good literary series (I think it is), but that's open to debate.

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 4:05:27 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Well, I liked this story better when it was called The Lord of the Flies. Aren't I special little snowflake?

(also. I think THG is more Battle Royale 2 than the first Battle Royale)


Aw, and I was looking forward to it and everything.



Don't worry, it only shares ideas with BR2, not quality. Hopefully.

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 4:13:37 PM   
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No interest in seeing this as i had the pleasure of seeing Battle Royale for the first time recently.No intention of of making a cinema trip just to see a pg version of the same story.


Well, I liked this story better when it was called The Lord of the Flies. Aren't I special little snowflake?

(also. I think THG is more Battle Royale 2 than the first Battle Royale)


Aw, and I was looking forward to it and everything.



Don't worry, it only shares ideas with BR2, not quality. Hopefully.


You mean sticking it to the man and bringing about the revolution? I think that idea only works if your film is called Black Dynamite...

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RE: anybody else - 22/3/2012 4:45:43 PM   
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RE: anybody else - 23/3/2012 12:32:00 AM   
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The Hunger Games is one of the best films so far this real and a very intelligent science fiction film which demonstrates that teenagers aren’t all just silly Twilight obsessed youngsters – despite what some posters would have you believe.

Set in a post nuclear America, the film emphasises the current discrepancy between the 99% and the 1%. The twelve districts of the world – which look like depression era America, serve the City, with its pre-French revolution fashions, and Roman decadence. Like the very best science fiction, The Hunger Games is a film very much of its time.

Jennifer Lawrence builds on her previous work and is simply GREAT in this role. It is the sort of role which can make someone a true superstar. She has beauty, but also great strength, and for most of the movie looks beaten to hell.

The film is well directed, and the visuals – from the greyness of District 12, to the marble City, to the bright green of the forest where the battle commences, each segment has its own personality.

And it is an intelligent film! Unlike many blockbusters it refuses to speak down to its audience, and expects them to figure stuff out in the same way that our characters do.

It has elements of satire, especially in the way it draws comparisons between how subtle and well developed the soap opera nature of reality TV has become, and how this society used these ideas to keep the population under a heel.

What I liked most was when the game finally started, Lawrence’s character slowly but surely realises that she is not just fighting against her fellow peers, she is also fighting for screen time at home. The more popular a player is, the more help they will get. This becomes ever more complex in the third act.

For those who are lazy and say this is another Twilight – what nonsense. At least go and see the film before you make a judgement call. Is there romance in the film? Sure, very briefly. But the “romantic” subplot in the film is a lot smarter than people are giving it credit for.

Talking of lazy comparisons…lets talk about Battle Royale. BR is one of my top ten movies of all time. It is a true classic, and one I will always love. The Hunger Games is not as good as that…and it doesn’t matter. It is a totally different story, told in a totally different way. In terms of influences on this film I could see The Most Dangerous Game, Lord of the Flies, Peter Watkins films Privilege and Punishment Park, The Running Man, A Boy and His Dog, and yes, Battle Royale. But again…so what?

Here is the truth about Battle Royale – it is a huge soap opera. Those kids are killing each other, but also are in romantic subplots, are jealous of each other, want to be with one another and so on. Love and teenage angst run riot through that film. You are kidding yourself if you deny it, and point to the blood and guts. If you only like BR because of the violence then you are watching it wrong.

Funnily enough The Hunger Games is much harsher in terms of how the players react to one another. There is genuine sadism in some of the characters – and being strangers you don’t get the melodrama.

So yeah, Battle Royale will manage to survive the Hunger Games, and vice versa. Both films build on previous works and both have their place.

My problems with the film were that it could have done with us getting to know some of the a characters better. One in particular needed a few more scenes just to make the impact of what happened to them stronger.

I think the subtext of the “romance” could have been emphasised a little more at the end. I got what was happening, but I wonder if others would or not.

And finally the final act introduces something which I presume is from the books and is a little silly and not needed. The filmmakers should have diverted from the novel at that point.

But none of these things are enough to detract from what the Hunger Games is – an intelligent and unique looking blockbuster that doesn’t treat its target audience like idiots. If I ever had any kids, and they were reading these books or watching this film, I would be very happy.

This is a film that deserves to be seen, and not pre-judged. Make up your own mind, and remember…that Battle Royale disk you own won’t suddenly vanish.

Four stars


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