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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 2/3/2012 12:57:33 AM

rich

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Outside all this amusing rage, this is fairly hypocritical.

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RE: What A Bastard, Eh...? - 2/3/2012 12:59:20 AM

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What makes it any more strange is the fact that LucasFilms most know of Peggs critiscm via Twitter/Interviews concerning recent Star Wars movies.
Maybe LucasFilms think anybody can be brought-off as long as they dangle a cheque in there noses,which with regards to Pegg it seems the case.

And what's more convincing is that they've paid off a 'Star Wars fan' who criticised the architect of the series, to be a part of a series which makes up the continuity which he's stated to detest. A slight PR victory there.

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RE: What A Bastard, Eh...? - 2/3/2012 9:18:01 AM

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On the other hand, many people who criticised TPM when it came out, offered the chance to be in AOTC as some alien or whatever would have been equally 'hypocritical'. Pegg has taken the piss out of the geekdom as much as slagging off Lucas, what was it again, something like The Phantom Menace was two years ago/I know, but it still hurts?

And, the Clone Wars cartoon seems to be made not only by people with technical competence, but by people who know better than Lucas the feelings they had about watching Star Wars, which Lucas can't ever actually experience, but which people with that experience can seek to aim their work at directly. All the things people complain the prequels are missing are in the CW shorts and ROTS in particular benefits from the shorts actually showing a decent friendship between the male leads, and a broader depiction of the wars the third film draws a close to, as well as plenty of material of the 'I can't believe this just happened in a show aimed at kids' moments.

So to reiterate my earlier point, whatever Pegg said about the prequels, I'd hazard a guess that whatever the size of the cheque dangled in front of him, Pegg would have been slightly motivated to take any role by actually watching the show and the world it depicts over time, and the individual massive set pieces, and even the skill with which individual little moments of actual emotion are handled once the show really finds its feet etc and thought, 'now, this is more like it, this is what I hoped I was going to be getting when I heard new films would be made'.

CASE IN POINT RE THE BOLD TEXT ABOVE:

In a cantina somewhere in the galaxy, in the latest episode, someone tries to come on to a certain bald ex evil apprentice. She presses her lightsaber to his groin area and presses the button...bloke falls dead...later 'ninjas' attack a 'train' and are getting killed left, right and centre, in a quite intense way that, in live action would appear to almost ludicrously violent.

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 2/3/2012 3:19:07 PM

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Thing is who is more the hypocrit here?

The type who sit moaning about how Lucas is ruining the trilogy by adding so much in and changing everything, who then run out to buy the Blu-Ray box set, thus funding Lucas's bank account.

Or Pegg, who has moaned about how much the prequels and the changes suck, and is then offered money for an afternoon of speaking into a mic?

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 2/3/2012 4:58:27 PM

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Wonder if his anti-Lucas bias also comes down to the fact years ago when Nick was working on a TV show he got invited to Skywalker Ranch as remeber them doing an interview & when Nick spilt the beans Simon was really upset & more than a little bit jealous?

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 3/3/2012 12:13:59 PM

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Simon Peggs just an arse.Its ironic that while he is famous for bashing the prequels and especially Jar Jar, his Scotty is the Jar Jar of Star Trek.

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- 3/3/2012 12:29:08 PM

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Well, he's no Morris Bush.

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RE: - 3/3/2012 12:47:06 PM

rich

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I can't believe this just happened in a show aimed at kids' moments.

I dont get how random violence that is unsuitable for younger audiences makes something better in overall quality.

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 3/3/2012 6:31:03 PM

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his Scotty is the Jar Jar of Star Trek.

Comparing Scotty to Jar Jar is like comparing a turd to explosive diarrhoea.

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 3/3/2012 7:42:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kayotik

Thing is who is more the hypocrit here?

The type who sit moaning about how Lucas is ruining the trilogy by adding so much in and changing everything, who then run out to buy the Blu-Ray box set, thus funding Lucas's bank account.

Or Pegg, who has moaned about how much the prequels and the changes suck, and is then offered money for an afternoon of speaking into a mic?

Surely Pegg is contributing to Lucas's bank account as much as the Blu-Ray buying fan is?

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 4/3/2012 1:02:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

his Scotty is the Jar Jar of Star Trek.

Comparing Scotty to Jar Jar is like comparing a turd to explosive diarrhoea.

I guess Jar Jar doesn't have problems with not having enough power at least.

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RE: RE: - 4/3/2012 5:16:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rich

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I can't believe this just happened in a show aimed at kids' moments.

I dont get how random violence that is unsuitable for younger audiences makes something better in overall quality.

It's not random, nor is it any more explicit, than say, the original films (considerably less so in fact),there is equivalence with things like the sudden shock of the state of Owen and Beru's smoking corpses, but it's more not shying away from things in a way that might normally be the case in the usual kiddie show., and it;s always for story reasons or to show something about character. And quite a lot of the implications of just how vicious some of the characters are being wont necessarily compute with kids too young for those implications. A character may do something like kill innocents in front of a hero character to make sure the hero knows he is serious, and keep executing innocents until a hero character stops resisting because every time they do someone dies. It's all pixels of course, and I seem to be being very serious about it all, I know. But underpinning my comments is the impression I get that the makers of the show are deadly serious about making the best Star Wars looking and feeling series they can, and while it remains a cartoon, there is some deadly serious stuff going on in it sometimes. And violence in stylised form is considered less damaging than live action, so the kiddies emerge unscathed while adults notice the implications and the extent of some of the events

As for Pegg as Dengar, I wouldn't even know it was him from his performance alone, so good work from his people making sure his 'hypocrisy and betrayal of his principles' made it to the nerdnet to publicise the fact he's in the show at all

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RE: RE: - 5/3/2012 1:31:07 PM

Kayotik

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Quite a fun episode all in all.

And yeah I would never have told that was Pegg!

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RE: PEGGGG!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, YOU DAMN SELL ... - 5/3/2012 7:47:28 PM

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haha,, no not really, twas all supposed to be sarcasm and in the spirit of how Tim would react in Spaced,,,

Trust me,, Nobody should get worked up about anything Lucas or Simon Pegg do!! Unless of course, it's related to the next Star Trek sequel

The only thing thats childish is in fact, Star Wars itself

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RE: RE: - 12/3/2012 1:39:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rich

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I can't believe this just happened in a show aimed at kids' moments.

I dont get how random violence that is unsuitable for younger audiences makes something better in overall quality.

Latest episode...I REALLY can't believe what just happened in a show primarily aimed at kids. Bringing people back from the supposed dead can be cheesy, but this was pretty freaky, disturbing shit. This show continues to throw curveballs just when it's all getting a bit too comfortable...

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RE: RE: - 12/3/2012 3:02:02 PM

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Simon Pegg has been a tool for a while now: nearly ruining both Star Trek and Tintin.

However: I am quite tempted to pick up the Clone Wars boxset now after reading some comments on it: I ignored it at first as too childish: but is it worth a look?

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RE: RE: - 12/3/2012 3:38:29 PM

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Bear in mind, I'm referring to the closing stages of the fourth series. Going from the start, it's lighter and you have to watch them 'making' the envelope before they start to push it, but what the series can pull off really well by the time it's in full flight is massive changes in tone from one ep to the next, and total abandonment of the main cast for side stories and one off tales that sometimes hit much harder than you might have anticipated from any potential 'he's just miking a dead cow' reaction to the idea of the series when first mooted.

So, wound my neck in just slightly re recent comments, but there's a lot to enjoy and be surprised by over the 4 seasons thus far.

Edit, milking, not 'miking' a dead cow.

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