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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 2/5/2012 3:17:03 PM   
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Donnie fucking Darko.

I've seen it four times and I am still none the wiser.

I got Memento and Inception though - I thought they were pretty simple to follow really.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 3/5/2012 12:35:12 AM   
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re Walk with Me ain't a great film. Most of Lynch's films baffle everyone and then people come up with ideas or theories about what the hell Mullholland Drive is supposed to be about. I like Lynch but he's too off the wall and inconsistent sometimes just putting whatever half baked idea he has onto screen - Bob in Twin Peaks was the result of a gaffer catching Lynch's eye so he shot that bit with him at the end of the bed. Sometimes working like that pays off, other times it doesn't.


I can't understand what Deer Hunter is about pr rather i don't see the appeal others do - I don't "get it". Some people I think just don't get what a film is saying. I've a friend who just shrugs at Fight Club claiming not to understand it which is fair enough. The appeal of Deer Hunter and the reverance for it baffles me.

Synnechode, New York really baffled the bejsaysis out of me . Thought it was rubbish and a waste of two hours. Doubt I'll be giving it another look.

Pi gave me a headache. Keep meaning to go back to that one.

I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned non-English language films, Goddard or Bergman for instance (not to conflate those two as their films are different pieces of work) I watched Persona recently and I could see how that might confuse some people.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 3/5/2012 11:51:25 PM   
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I don't get the confusion over deer hunter. What's the issue there? Fight Club is raising a similar issue, it may have a subtext but it explains it's story clearly by the end surely?

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 12:55:57 AM   
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re Walk with Me ain't a great film. Most of Lynch's films baffle everyone and then people come up with ideas or theories about what the hell Mullholland Drive is supposed to be about. I like Lynch but he's too off the wall and inconsistent sometimes just putting whatever half baked idea he has onto screen - Bob in Twin Peaks was the result of a gaffer catching Lynch's eye so he shot that bit with him at the end of the bed. Sometimes working like that pays off, other times it doesn't.


I can't understand what Deer Hunter is about pr rather i don't see the appeal others do - I don't "get it". Some people I think just don't get what a film is saying. I've a friend who just shrugs at Fight Club claiming not to understand it which is fair enough. The appeal of Deer Hunter and the reverance for it baffles me.

Synnechode, New York really baffled the bejsaysis out of me . Thought it was rubbish and a waste of two hours. Doubt I'll be giving it another look.

Pi gave me a headache. Keep meaning to go back to that one.

I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned non-English language films, Goddard or Bergman for instance (not to conflate those two as their films are different pieces of work) I watched Persona recently and I could see how that might confuse some people.


Deer Hunter is one of the greatest film's ever made. A poignant masterpiece on the tragedy of war, and what it entails - how it changes people forever. I cannot see how this film could 'baffle' someone. Its pretty clear. Its a slow burning movie which gives the viewer time to reflect, and not get baffled!


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 12:59:03 AM   
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Donnie fucking Darko.

I've seen it four times and I am still none the wiser.

I got Memento and Inception though - I thought they were pretty simple to follow really.


I've watched it six times and I too am still baffled! Its the part of the film, it lets you make up your own opinion as to what it really is about! Its a brilliiant film and Donnie's 'Smurf' speech is just hilarious!

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 12:43:43 PM   
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just putting whatever half baked idea he has onto screen


Thank you - I've been saying this to friends and in numerous threads on the very forum for YEARS, and you are about the only other person on here who has said the same.

Like Wes Anderson making "odd" films purely for the sake of being odd, Lynch often just makes things weird and complicated because he doesn't know what else to do with the story or characters. Half the time I'm convinced that even he doesn't know what his films are about (cf. every time he responds to a probing question with the eye of a duck answer).


Also, I agree with the simplicity of both Memento and Inception, especially as in Inception THE CHARACTERS EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON AT EVERY STEP OF THE FILM. You just need to listen and pay attention, is all.

I would say the only film that continues to baffle me is I Huckabees, but I think a large part of that is my dislike of the film, pointlessness of the story and absolute hate for Jason Schwartzman.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 6:11:55 PM   
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The Fountain baffled me. I could have watched it with the sound switched off, enjoyed it just as much and walked away understanding more.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 6:15:53 PM   
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Ooooh, and I forgot about Southland Tales, I mean I really wanted to enjoy it, but I just totally failed to understand a God damn thing the whole way through !

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 4/5/2012 9:22:21 PM   
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One of my favourite movies is The Usual Suspects, and for a long time the movie didn't so much baffle me as leave me feeling slightly dis-orientated. Even after several viewings. Even now I find it a strange non linear movie, almost dreamlike in its telling. I really don't think that it is something I will fully "get". And I love that. Love it.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 7/5/2012 11:02:05 PM   
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Ooooh, and I forgot about Southland Tales, I mean I really wanted to enjoy it, but I just totally failed to understand a God damn thing the whole way through !


Don't worry, I'm not even sure Richard Kelly understood what he was doing. It's an abominable unlikable mess from start to finish.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 8/5/2012 1:58:10 AM   
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I agree with Southland Tales too, I had no idea what in the jesus was happening in the entire last hour.

I don't see what was baffling about The Deer Hunter either, it's a great movie with a simple story of the way war changes people.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 9/5/2012 3:09:42 AM   
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Donnie Darko wasn't hard to understand, it was just a disgrace of a movie.

The Fountain is complicated, but I got it.

American Psycho is the closest for me not understanding it.
I got it under intense thought, but it is almost on purpose.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 9/5/2012 9:47:35 AM   
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Cling film will completely baffle you.




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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 9/5/2012 10:48:37 AM   
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Donnie Darko wasn't hard to understand, it was just a disgrace of a movie.

The Fountain is complicated, but I got it.

American Psycho is the closest for me not understanding it.
I got it under intense thought, but it is almost on purpose.


wtf?

Donnie Darko is a film that gets alot of hate and I'm bemused as to why.
Maybe its just one of those films to "fashionably" deslike.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 9/5/2012 4:35:26 PM   
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Just watched John Carpenters Prince of Darkness. I have seen it several time and it still baffles me. I think I kind of get it. But not quite sure. Doesn't stop me loving it though. Anyone else got an theories on what this flick is about??

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 14/5/2012 3:13:32 AM   
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Kill List

Got most of it until the third act then it all went a bit bananas.


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 14/5/2012 3:55:38 AM   
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quote:

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Kill List

Got most of it until the third act then it all went a bit bananas.



Aye, I kind of understood what happened but I'm not entirely sure why.. Apparently repeat viewings reveal a few subtle clues.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 14/5/2012 4:26:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: horribleives


quote:

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Kill List

Got most of it until the third act then it all went a bit bananas.



Aye, I kind of understood what happened but I'm not entirely sure why.. Apparently repeat viewings reveal a few subtle clues.


Play fight between the family. Mother giving son piggy back, dad attacks son with play sword.  

But as you say, I know what happened but am perplexed to the why.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 14/5/2012 4:32:36 PM   
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Just watched John Carpenters Prince of Darkness. I have seen it several time and it still baffles me. I think I kind of get it. But not quite sure. Doesn't stop me loving it though. Anyone else got an theories on what this flick is about??


Satan in a jar. His evil emanating out, as he tries to bring himself (or some sort of anti-matter god) through into our world.  Meanwhile the researchers receive dream messages broadcast from survivors in the future year 1999 (chortle!), telling them they have to stop the evil.  Which they do.  Or do they...?!  DUN  DUN DAHHHN!

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 12:40:51 AM   
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Primer. Just watched it. Thoroughly engrossing and marvellous but what the fuck?

***SPOILERS***

I presume with the two fail-safes it means we're watching numerous iterations of Aaron and Abe try and fix the past and destroying their friendship in the process...

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 12:43:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sad Professor

re Walk with Me ain't a great film. Most of Lynch's films baffle everyone and then people come up with ideas or theories about what the hell Mullholland Drive is supposed to be about. I like Lynch but he's too off the wall and inconsistent sometimes just putting whatever half baked idea he has onto screen - Bob in Twin Peaks was the result of a gaffer catching Lynch's eye so he shot that bit with him at the end of the bed. Sometimes working like that pays off, other times it doesn't.


I can't understand what Deer Hunter is about pr rather i don't see the appeal others do - I don't "get it". Some people I think just don't get what a film is saying. I've a friend who just shrugs at Fight Club claiming not to understand it which is fair enough. The appeal of Deer Hunter and the reverance for it baffles me.

Synnechode, New York really baffled the bejsaysis out of me . Thought it was rubbish and a waste of two hours. Doubt I'll be giving it another look.

Pi gave me a headache. Keep meaning to go back to that one.

I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned non-English language films, Goddard or Bergman for instance (not to conflate those two as their films are different pieces of work) I watched Persona recently and I could see how that might confuse some people.


Deer Hunter is one of the greatest film's ever made. A poignant masterpiece on the tragedy of war, and what it entails - how it changes people forever. I cannot see how this film could 'baffle' someone. Its pretty clear. Its a slow burning movie which gives the viewer time to reflect, and not get baffled!



I never realised bullshit could be poignant. And the allegory argument doesn't wash with me... (and so on and so forth)

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 12:45:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: clownfoot

Primer. Just watched it. Thoroughly engrossing and marvellous but what the fuck?

***SPOILERS***

I presume with the two fail-safes it means we're watching numerous iterations of Aaron and Abe try and fix the past and destroying their friendship in the process...


Mahoosive spoilers, but here is a definitive timeline for the film - http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/primer-chart.jpg


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 12:50:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: homersimpson_esq

quote:

ORIGINAL: clownfoot

Primer. Just watched it. Thoroughly engrossing and marvellous but what the fuck?

***SPOILERS***

I presume with the two fail-safes it means we're watching numerous iterations of Aaron and Abe try and fix the past and destroying their friendship in the process...


Mahoosive spoilers, but here is a definitive timeline for the film - http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/primer-chart.jpg



I haven't seen it snce it was on at the pictures but I think I understood about one line of dialogue in the whole film.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 2:22:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES


quote:

ORIGINAL: threshold

Donnie Darko wasn't hard to understand, it was just a disgrace of a movie.



wtf?

Donnie Darko is a film that gets alot of hate and I'm bemused as to why.
Maybe its just one of those films to "fashionably" deslike.


It's been a long time but I don't remember Donnie Darko ever being confusing. Wasn't he just a time traveller or something but wasn't aware he had been repeating the same time period for a while because of his mental health? As for being a disgrace, not at all.


As for truely baffling .... I don't know. Something like Lost Highway perhaps. Then again somebody may have explained it to me in the past, I am uncertain.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 15/7/2012 2:59:38 AM   
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At first the last act of Kill List caught me off guard, the very end was downright shocking. At the time I hadn't the slightest as to why this stuff was happening, definitely one for repeat viewings.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 17/7/2012 12:41:45 AM   
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Star Wars Attack of the Clones the first time I honestly didn't have a clue what was going on, what Count Dookus role was supposed to be, who was fighting who and why

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 17/7/2012 1:48:04 AM   
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Truthfully, as a first post as well I have to say "Howard The Duck".

The bed scene where he is making love to a human women... what ... the..... fck?

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 17/7/2012 8:28:46 AM   
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Eraserhead!I win!
Seriously,there are two issues with the thread title-One,and I don't intend to be patronising,people aren't clever enough to understand what they're watching.Two-Sometimes we think we "get" what we see when we don't,ergo we aren't as clever as we think we are.
With Lynch,i think only he "gets" his vision-what we think of that is a different issue.
Marty Scorcese admitted Shutter Island wasn't as clever as it was being hailed as.It was an audience perception really.
Films like Donnie Darko I cannot understand the confusion,it's a straight existential narrative-it isn't that complex.
And Wes Anderson is fan fucking tastic-his style is one again,if you don't like it,it is seperate to not "getting" it.
Cinema audiences in the main have lost the power to use their brain I think-desensitised by a lot of popular yet simpleton fare.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 17/7/2012 8:36:11 AM   
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Star Wars Attack of the Clones the first time I honestly didn't have a clue what was going on, what Count Dookus role was supposed to be, who was fighting who and why

That's a slightly different issue-something can be so bad it makes no sense-quite a few films like that-mostly "comedies" by Adam Sandler.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 20/7/2012 4:54:30 AM   
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Back to the future is a film which baffles me.


In what way?
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