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Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:27:46 PM   
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So yea, surely there are films that, no matter how hard you try, simply dont make fucking sense.

This thread is mostly inspired by the fact I'm currently watching Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me, and I'm around 40 minutes in and all I can think is "What. The. Fuck.". I vaugely remember watching Twin Peaks back in the early 90's (late 80's?) and I dont remember it being quite this bonkers....

So, what films have you watched and just thought...." I have no fucking clue what this is"??

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:31:10 PM   
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Most David Lynch films, some Terrence Malick films, some Kubrick films. Doesn't mean to say they're not good or anything.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:31:15 PM   
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That's a great exchange...

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:31:54 PM   
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I don't know whether it was the film's fault or my fault, but I was completely lost during the whole thing. Also - it didn't help that it was interminably dull.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:32:48 PM   
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Most David Lynch films, some Terrence Malick films, some Kubrick films. Doesn't mean to say they're not good or anything.


Course not... I'm actually really enjoying Fire Walk With Me... Keifer Sutherland is particularly great, but it is fucking mad as fuck.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:34:29 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Most David Lynch films, some Terrence Malick films, some Kubrick films. Doesn't mean to say they're not good or anything.


Course not... I'm actually really enjoying Fire Walk With Me... Keifer Sutherland is particularly great, but it is fucking mad as fuck.


IMHO, FWWM is Lynch's masterpiece. Love the fuck out of that flick.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:38:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Most David Lynch films, some Terrence Malick films, some Kubrick films. Doesn't mean to say they're not good or anything.


Course not... I'm actually really enjoying Fire Walk With Me... Keifer Sutherland is particularly great, but it is fucking mad as fuck.


IMHO, FWWM is Lynch's masterpiece. Love the fuck out of that flick.


I'm ashamed to say I've never seen FWWM.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:39:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Most David Lynch films, some Terrence Malick films, some Kubrick films. Doesn't mean to say they're not good or anything.


Course not... I'm actually really enjoying Fire Walk With Me... Keifer Sutherland is particularly great, but it is fucking mad as fuck.


IMHO, FWWM is Lynch's masterpiece. Love the fuck out of that flick.


But do you genuinely understand what is always happening? I mean, the overall story makes sense (so far... kinda) but there are little moments that are just genuinely mindfucking. My. Mind. Is. Fucked.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:42:47 PM   
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But do you genuinely understand what is always happening? I mean, the overall story makes sense (so far... kinda) but there are little moments that are just genuinely mindfucking. My. Mind. Is. Fucked.



Most of it makes sense to me, sure.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:43:29 PM   
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I'm ashamed to say I've never seen FWWM.



Fail.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:48:13 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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But do you genuinely understand what is always happening? I mean, the overall story makes sense (so far... kinda) but there are little moments that are just genuinely mindfucking. My. Mind. Is. Fucked.



Most of it makes sense to me, sure.


Well, interestingly in the last five minutes or so it appears to have moved back to something more familiar (i.e. a bit more like I remember Twin Peaks) and I assume those openign 40 minutes or so may make more sense towards the end.... or maybe not...

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 10:53:43 PM   
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If you want to talk about the film in more detail, here is a thread I kicked open for it last year.

Clicky click on linky link

Personally, I think it's a fascinating film to analyse and dissect.


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 28/2/2012 11:28:52 PM   
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Speaking of Lynch, INLAND EMPIRE confused the living fuck out of me which doesn't explain why I didn't like it all that because I love confusing films and I still haven't seen Fire Walk With Me either

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 4:49:40 AM   
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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 4:53:55 AM   
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Primer.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 10:02:24 AM   
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Primer.


This one right here for me - a friend raved about it after watching Timecrimes and lent me the DVD. I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on or, more specifically, why.

Maybe I'll give it another go sometime.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 10:09:55 AM   
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Primer.


Took me a while to realise that you weren't talking about that Uma Thurman Rom-Com.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 1:01:17 PM   
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Primer.


This one right here for me - a friend raved about it after watching Timecrimes and lent me the DVD. I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on or, more specifically, why.

Maybe I'll give it another go sometime.


It's not THAT difficult: Primer timeline

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 1:02:25 PM   
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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 1:42:00 PM   
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quote:

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Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

I don't know whether it was the film's fault or my fault, but I was completely lost during the whole thing. Also - it didn't help that it was interminably dull.


I can believe that based on my failed attempt to the novel - it was just constant, droning exposition and I found it quite hard to concentrate on who was meant to be who, who liked who etc  I do have the film on my Lovefilm list though, just to see if it's any more approachable in that format!

I wouldn't say it completely baffled me but I'm sure there's a hell of a lot in The Usual Suspects that I didn't really understand.


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:25:58 PM   
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2001: A Space Odyssey.

Just incoherent nonsense.

(Though the bit with Hal trying to kill everyone on the ship was good)


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:41:31 PM   
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2001: A Space Odyssey.

Just incoherent nonsense.

(Though the bit with Hal trying to kill everyone on the ship was good)



One day. ONE DAY I will finish watching this film.

I was a bit lost during Ran. I also studied King Lear for my Leaving Certificate.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:46:35 PM   
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2001: A Space Odyssey.

Just incoherent nonsense.

(Though the bit with Hal trying to kill everyone on the ship was good)



One day. ONE DAY I will finish watching this film.

I was a bit lost during Ran. I also studied King Lear for my Leaving Certificate.


You will need..

1)Coffee.Lots of it.
2)Patience.A lot of that too.


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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:55:40 PM   
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quote:

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So yea, surely there are films that, no matter how hard you try, simply dont make fucking sense.

This thread is mostly inspired by the fact I'm currently watching Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me, and I'm around 40 minutes in and all I can think is "What. The. Fuck.". I vaugely remember watching Twin Peaks back in the early 90's (late 80's?) and I dont remember it being quite this bonkers....

So, what films have you watched and just thought...." I have no fucking clue what this is"??


I got the box set for Christmas of the TV series, and it is as bonkers as the film!!

I'd also nominate Primer, took me a couple of watches to get wtf was up with that one.
Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway and Eraserhead are baffling but brilliant.
I know some people find Memento and Inception baffling (not me).
Spider, Jacobs Ladder and Pi can be baffling (until the end...)

Also: The Twighlight series - it baffles me that anyone actually thinks they are any good!!

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:55:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

2001: A Space Odyssey.

Just incoherent nonsense.



Its really quite simple once you 'get it' tbh.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

I don't know whether it was the film's fault or my fault, but I was completely lost during the whole thing. Also - it didn't help that it was interminably dull.



I was a little confused on my first watch but after seeing it again I feel I understand it more. I enjoyed it more the second time round aswell as my brain wasn't racing to catch up.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 2:57:42 PM   
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quote:

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Primer.


This one right here for me - a friend raved about it after watching Timecrimes and lent me the DVD. I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on or, more specifically, why.

Maybe I'll give it another go sometime.


It's not THAT difficult: Primer timeline


That was helpful

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 3:01:22 PM   
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quote:

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I got the box set for Christmas of the TV series, and it is as bonkers as the film!!

I'd also nominate Primer, took me a couple of watches to get wtf was up with that one.
Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway and Eraserhead are baffling but brilliant.
I know some people find Memento and Inception baffling (not me).
Spider, Jacobs Ladder and Pi can be baffling (until the end...)

Also: The Twighlight series - it baffles me that anyone actually thinks they are any good!!


Finished watching Twin Peaks at Christmas. I find that when Duchovny enters in drag you either just go with it from there and love it, or you've simply had enough. I loved it all.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 3:58:57 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Primer.


This one right here for me - a friend raved about it after watching Timecrimes and lent me the DVD. I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on or, more specifically, why.

Maybe I'll give it another go sometime.


It's not THAT difficult: Primer timeline


Of course! I'll probably have to print that mofo out and watch the film again. To be honest, there are parts of that timeline that I don't remember one bit - it's almost as though I fell asleep inside a time-travelling crate.

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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 4:13:58 PM   
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RE: Films That Completely Baffle You - 29/2/2012 4:16:19 PM   
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2001: A Space Odyssey.

Just incoherent nonsense.

(Though the bit with Hal trying to kill everyone on the ship was good)



Sounds like I'm in for a confusing treat - I bought it just after christmas having never seen it before.

To be honest, seriosuly weirdy/confusing films aren't normally my cup of tea. Things like Inception and Memento spring to mind as well as my aforementioned Usual Suspects, but none of them are too heavy really. David Lynch's batshit crazy, mega confusing-sounding output certainly doesn't appeal.

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