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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/2/2013 10:38:46 AM

matty_b

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Yeah, hope things pick up for you, Reb.

Especially as you're expecting - it's not right that you should have to walk to work and back, especially if it's taking an hour. Do your employers not provide staff taxis for late finishes?

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/2/2013 11:15:45 AM

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If you're only reason for quitting your job was because you'd be financially better off on JSA, they wouldn't look very kindly on it. You can still get housing benefit to cover mortgage and income support etc during that period, but you'd likely end up with very little money.

I'll not lie, the financial aspect is a huge concern for me, but there are other things that may or may not be classed as a valid reason for quitting. For one thing, I requested more child care friendly hours in September. These were accommodated at first, but they have slowly been trying change things to suit them. For example I asked not to work Saturdays as my ex always works that day, but about two months in, on the run up to Christmas they asked if I wouldn't mind doing one in three during the busy period. I reluctantly agreed, despite being a bit put out by the fact that another supervisor who doesn't work Saturdays for no other reason than she doesn't want to, wasn't asked to do the same. I assumed this would end after Christmas but it hasn't and it has actually increased to one Saturday every other week (I have complained about this, apparently the manager forgot).

I'm also increasingly dissatisfied with their attitude to my pregnancy. I told my manager almost the minute I found out I was pregnant, because I knew they would nee to do a risk assessment for things like heavy lifting etc, and told them as much. It took nearly nearly six weeks for them to do anything and there was no personal consultation with me on the matter, instead I received a print off telling me pretty much what I already knew. One of the things they stated in the print off, was that I shouldn't have to be standing for prolonged periods of time, yet I find myself being stuck on tills more and more, even though my job should be more varied and allow for more movement.To top it all off though, because I'm not full time staff, I'm not given any sick pay, which meant that when I was plagued with morning sickness, (still not that great tbh) I was not getting anything for a missed shift and also had to put up with a really shitty attitude when I called in sick (things like tutting and sighing when I called up, then getting a berating for not speaking to a manager on one occasion - I'm supposed to call before 9am, yet there was no manager in at that time). I've also being hearing very petty second hand comments filtering down from other staff members, such as one occasion when the assistant manager dismissed my sickness as me not being able to get a babysitter to another member of staff.

If I'm honest it is a horrible place to work, and so unprofessional, but if I was to quit and there was a delay on any unemployment benefit, I'd be totally screwed as I currently can't put anything aside to give me some freedom to decide what to do.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/2/2013 11:28:53 AM

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If you can pin down the comments made behind your back and the direct attitude to you, you should be talking to CAB about their attitude to your pregnancy and possibly looking at constructive dismissal.

vis

- comments dismissing pregnancy related factors as, effectively, skiving
- processes followed for pregnancy and inability to follow guidelines given to you, particularly with respect to standing
- attitude during sickness caused by pregnancy, which was supported by hospital attendance
- late hours therefore no assessment of shift allocations for a pregnant employee

It's by no means perfect and very much a he said/she said - but perhaps you could start by, eg, putting in writing a request for support re standing all day with specific reference to the paper you were given and then see how they address that. It might help you along the road.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/2/2013 12:53:47 PM

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To be honest, I've never been unemployed in 22 years working

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 18/2/2013 8:44:25 AM

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I need careers advice as I'm currently failing massively to find employment!

I have a Masters degree in Music, and always wanted to do something related to the field - either practical or in the adminsitrative side (eg. copyright, arts management). I still would like to find something here, but most of the jobs just don't seem as interestying as they ought to be. So then I considered teaching - but I'm not sure I have a burning desire to teach, rather I don't know what else to do with my Music knowledge. Really, if I was going into teaching I'd want to get into management/Private teaching as soon as possible, and when you think like that it seems like the wrong career.

But I suppose my question is, I'm sure there are other people around who did subjects they were passionate about at Uni and then found a career elsewhere. Has this actually affected you in 10/20 years time? I'd like to make a comfortable amount from my career, and I have no idea what sector to look at. I've looked at marketing jobs, but they just seem a bit soul crushing and won't be utilising my skills - I'd just be going into it because it's the private sector and therefore I might earn more money. I'm undecided on whether I love music enough to make a career out of it in teaching, which presumably will be quite low paid, or what to look at outside of music.

ARGH!

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 19/2/2013 6:29:26 AM

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 19/2/2013 7:02:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: elab49

If you can pin down the comments made behind your back and the direct attitude to you, you should be talking to CAB about their attitude to your pregnancy and possibly looking at constructive dismissal.

vis

- comments dismissing pregnancy related factors as, effectively, skiving
- processes followed for pregnancy and inability to follow guidelines given to you, particularly with respect to standing
- attitude during sickness caused by pregnancy, which was supported by hospital attendance
- late hours therefore no assessment of shift allocations for a pregnant employee

It's by no means perfect and very much a he said/she said - but perhaps you could start by, eg, putting in writing a request for support re standing all day with specific reference to the paper you were given and then see how they address that. It might help you along the road.

I agree with this. Pregnant women are protected against discrimination by the law. Keep a written record of every single action that is unsympathetic or possibly discriminatory by your employer. I mean EVERYTHING. Your employer has a legal duty to accommodate your pregnancy, a duty it sounds like they've been neglecting. It's not just a case of them being unsympathetic; it's a case of them breaking the law.

If your employer has an HR department it would be worth approaching them; they certainly wouldn't endorse such behaviour and can help you find work more suitable to your physical abilities during this period.

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ORIGINAL: Spider

I need careers advice as I'm currently failing massively to find employment!

I have a Masters degree in Music, and always wanted to do something related to the field - either practical or in the adminsitrative side (eg. copyright, arts management). I still would like to find something here, but most of the jobs just don't seem as interestying as they ought to be. So then I considered teaching - but I'm not sure I have a burning desire to teach, rather I don't know what else to do with my Music knowledge. Really, if I was going into teaching I'd want to get into management/Private teaching as soon as possible, and when you think like that it seems like the wrong career.

But I suppose my question is, I'm sure there are other people around who did subjects they were passionate about at Uni and then found a career elsewhere. Has this actually affected you in 10/20 years time? I'd like to make a comfortable amount from my career, and I have no idea what sector to look at. I've looked at marketing jobs, but they just seem a bit soul crushing and won't be utilising my skills - I'd just be going into it because it's the private sector and therefore I might earn more money. I'm undecided on whether I love music enough to make a career out of it in teaching, which presumably will be quite low paid, or what to look at outside of music.

ARGH!

Welcome to the wonderful world of the arts graduate.

Mate, as horrible as it is, you have to find work where you can. The current jobs market is atrocious. I'm an arts graduate and was about as employable as a sack of dog food when I left uni. You need skills an employer can use. You mention teaching, but if you are a music graduate you would need a postgrad to teach in schools. If you can tutor individual students then great, go for it.

I'm sorry to be such a cynic but I graduated 10 years ago and know what a shitstorm it is out there. Dreams and ideals fall by the wayside when one is faced with the realities of paying the rent.

(Sorry man, I know it's sore.)

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 19/2/2013 8:00:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spider

I need careers advice as I'm currently failing massively to find employment!

I have a Masters degree in Music, and always wanted to do something related to the field - either practical or in the adminsitrative side (eg. copyright, arts management). I still would like to find something here, but most of the jobs just don't seem as interestying as they ought to be. So then I considered teaching - but I'm not sure I have a burning desire to teach, rather I don't know what else to do with my Music knowledge. Really, if I was going into teaching I'd want to get into management/Private teaching as soon as possible, and when you think like that it seems like the wrong career.

I did an MA in film theory, which led to a number of opportunities. I split my time between writing about film, lecturing and teaching film (studies), and working within the industry, for film festivals and whatnot. It's almost three years since I finished my MA and I make a pretty healthy living, especially when you factor in the fact that it doesn't actually seem like work most of the time! I started out by lecturing at the uni which I sat the MA at, which in turn led to other opportunities. With an MA you're qualified to take classes at that level, so you don't need to worry about other qualifications or anything.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 19/2/2013 8:51:36 PM

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Sorry Spider, I missed that you had a Masters. Ignore my cynical, world-wearied soliloquy and all the best to you dude.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 26/2/2013 7:03:48 PM

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Well i didnt get the job so its back to square 1.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 26/2/2013 7:26:11 PM

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sorry to hear that Kumar.

Chin up - there is always something else around the corner.

I think I mentioned before that I work in recruitment. The worst thing you can do is feel sorry for yourself and let it come over in your applications. Keep positive, motivated and keep going. You will get something.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 26/2/2013 7:45:22 PM

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Would you be able to offer any advice in terms of relocating abroad to work? Its something im open to but despite looking at visa stuff and regulations, I dont really know how to go about it other than applying right out. This essentially is a start up job for me in my career (hopefully in science research if that counts for anything) - is working abroad worth trying at this point, or is it better to wait until I have something of a career started?

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 28/3/2013 11:41:37 AM

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I got rejected for a training scheme in the NHS which i applied for and was really hoping to get onto. I have one more specialism that I applied for (second choice) so I will see where that goes. No feedback either which I think is a pisstake - ive exhausted the opportunities for NHS work experience and hospital care. I have another application ongoing for a graduate scientist in salisbury/portsmouth, waiting to be invited to a selection centre but I havent heard anything yet. They seem to be a little last minute (i was given 3 hours notice before my telephone interview).

On the flipside I was offered a job at a community health organisation on the other side of Leeds. Its only a 6 month temporary thing with minimum wage, but involves data collection and patient surveys to contribute to reports. Not exactly the line of work I want to go in, but it is in a field relevant to my own interests and its a starting point. Everyone starts somewhere.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 11/4/2013 7:37:04 PM

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I found out today that I face redundancy. Either move to another store, go back to part time, change my job role and face a massive pay cut, or take redundancy. Not sure what I am going to do yet, only found this out today.

It's been a good while since I was seriously looking for a job so I am a bit rusty at it. I hear there are websites you can upload your CV to which advertise you around the market and such, has anyone ever had any success with any of these? I think I am going to use my two weeks consultation period to check out the job market, also talk to some people at the store I would be moving to, see if it's actually somewhere I could work or not.

But yeah, any advice?

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 11/4/2013 11:43:07 PM

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I found out today that I face redundancy. Either move to another store, go back to part time, change my job role and face a massive pay cut, or take redundancy. Not sure what I am going to do yet, only found this out today.

It's been a good while since I was seriously looking for a job so I am a bit rusty at it. I hear there are websites you can upload your CV to which advertise you around the market and such, has anyone ever had any success with any of these? I think I am going to use my two weeks consultation period to check out the job market, also talk to some people at the store I would be moving to, see if it's actually somewhere I could work or not.

But yeah, any advice?

I'll be in the same position in 2 weeks time - my term contract is coming to an end after a couple of extensions and I'll start having to look for a new job. I've got pretty good experience from my current job however so I should be okay rolling into a related field/industry hopefully.

I can't speak comprehensively about careers websites, but before I was employed in 2011 I uploaded my CV to Monster and got a few calls back and interest in my CV, plus I secured a job interview with a company in London by applying through it. I think I uploaded my CV to Reed but don't remember hearing anything from them, same for Total Jobs. Thing is, jobs websites are a sea of indiscriminate CVs as well as jobs no one wants to take and it's hard to sift through them on both ends. I would recommend Indeed - it's a website which collates vacancies from all the different careers websites and I find it one of the easiest to browse through. It might work better for others than me, but every time I apply for a job I never just upload my CV but provide a detailed covering letter because just uploading your CV alone just seems like a wait and see approach. That said, it may depend on the level/type of job you're looking at; lower level entry jobs it's probably sufficient to put your CV out there. Personally all my job interviews have come from carefully tailoring my CV and a covering letter, and I acquired my latest job through a recruitment agency.

Go for it - just get your CV out there, make sure you advertise your skills in detail and see what it comes of it. Best of luck.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 12/4/2013 8:27:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: moontheloon

I found out today that I face redundancy. Either move to another store, go back to part time, change my job role and face a massive pay cut, or take redundancy. Not sure what I am going to do yet, only found this out today.

It's been a good while since I was seriously looking for a job so I am a bit rusty at it. I hear there are websites you can upload your CV to which advertise you around the market and such, has anyone ever had any success with any of these? I think I am going to use my two weeks consultation period to check out the job market, also talk to some people at the store I would be moving to, see if it's actually somewhere I could work or not.

But yeah, any advice?

I'm so sorry to hear that Moon - I thought of you when it announced the chain had been saved and hoped it meant good news after Blockbusters. Fingers crossed the other store might be an option?

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 12/4/2013 9:42:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: moontheloon

I found out today that I face redundancy. Either move to another store, go back to part time, change my job role and face a massive pay cut, or take redundancy. Not sure what I am going to do yet, only found this out today.

It's been a good while since I was seriously looking for a job so I am a bit rusty at it. I hear there are websites you can upload your CV to which advertise you around the market and such, has anyone ever had any success with any of these? I think I am going to use my two weeks consultation period to check out the job market, also talk to some people at the store I would be moving to, see if it's actually somewhere I could work or not.

But yeah, any advice?

Are they restructuring positions or something? I know someone else who has been let go in a 'saved' store. Are you a supervisor at the moment?

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 13/4/2013 2:35:47 PM

Sledge Hammer

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Hi there - thought I would add in my tuppences worth.

I work for a recruitment agency (reed) and can hopefully give you some advice from this side of the fence that will help.

Firstly, the job websites. Reed.co.uk is the biggest jobsite in Europe and not only has jobs from Reed but also other companies who pay to use our site (due to its size). They can do a search on the CVs uploaded as can your local Reed branch. Although I wouldnt hold out hope for someone calling you, its better to have it on there than not.

Secondly, and I dont mean this to be rude or offensive, but every recruitment agent will have a 1000 candidates like you on paper. Most CVs that are submitted only get a cursory glance then deleted if not appropriate. The best way you can get a job is to call your local agent, talk to them about what you want, get their advice if its realistic and then keep harassing them. There are so many CVs to deal with that if you are not on top of them, they will forget about you. Having said that, if you make a good impression and show that you are keen to work, they will work their balls off to place you. You have to prove to them how good you are.

Thirdly, its good to apply for jobs directly, as some companies will advertise both through agencies and direct - if they have two candidates of equal status but one will cost them �1000 fee, it doesnt take a scientist to work out which one gets the job.

However, don't go behind a recruitment agents back as they will no longer represent you - what I mean is if you see Tescos recruiting on a website, dont be afraid to apply.

I really wish you luck as its a tough market out there at the moment. If you want any other advice, please ask.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 13/4/2013 7:37:26 PM

moontheloon

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Castor Troy

quote:

ORIGINAL: moontheloon

I found out today that I face redundancy. Either move to another store, go back to part time, change my job role and face a massive pay cut, or take redundancy. Not sure what I am going to do yet, only found this out today.

It's been a good while since I was seriously looking for a job so I am a bit rusty at it. I hear there are websites you can upload your CV to which advertise you around the market and such, has anyone ever had any success with any of these? I think I am going to use my two weeks consultation period to check out the job market, also talk to some people at the store I would be moving to, see if it's actually somewhere I could work or not.

But yeah, any advice?

Are they restructuring positions or something? I know someone else who has been let go in a 'saved' store. Are you a supervisor at the moment?

No, it's really weird the way they've done it. The Loss Prevention role and the Cashier (as in cash office not tills) roles have been completely gotten rid of bar a very small handful of stores that are either seen as high risk or too large to cope without a cashier. Supervisors they want to reduce to one per store, but instead of simply getting rid of them in the way that they are with Loss Prevention and Cashiers, they have said that this would be a natural thing, so for example in my store where we have two supervisors, if one left then they simply wouldn't be replaced, but there is also a chance they could be moved to another store if a store has no supervisors. Why they get preferential treatment I don't know, especially as one of the supervisors in our place really isn't much cop and my manager said quite bluntly in my consultation meeting with her that she was quite angry to be losing the two people she is as she was having to keep people she didn't necessarily want to.

There's also stuff about a 50/50 split between full time and part time, which again will be a natural progression rather than more redundancies, except in 2 or 3 stores where the split is weighted too far toward full timers I think. They are announcing the head office restructuring next week.

And cheers for the kind words/advice Elab & Sledge Hammer, I was a little pissed off because I was going to spend the last couple of nights working on my CV and looking for jobs, but came down with a bad cold and could barely breath or sit up straight, but next week I will be on it,

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/4/2013 2:29:25 AM

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I'm sorry to hear that Moon, truly. I know this might not be much comfort now, but I thought of you when I was in town earlier and decided to pop into HMV. Good luck.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 15/4/2013 7:25:36 PM

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Currently playing the waiting game. Sent off a bunch of applications - with more to do - and got a call today about one I had applied for and the lady said she would email me with an interview time and yet I haven't received anything.

I'm so impatient.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 3/5/2013 11:46:56 AM

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I�ve known for the past 7 months my job was on the way out so I�ve been looking for work for the past 4 months. I use a number of Recruiters but none more than Reed Jobs.

I have to admit it�s been the biggest waste of my time. I�ve not heard a single thing back for a job though them (unlike when I go direct or use other recruiters) I�m pretty sure they do fuck all with peoples applications. I had a look online for reviews just now and I�m not at all shocked to find Reed has a horrendous reputation. Don�t get me wrong I�m no wonder kid job wise (No Degree etc) but I work hard and have a wealth of experience and I�m proud to say I�ve never been unemployed since I was 16 and I�m 33 now. I would assume that out of mountains of applications I�ve sent through Reed I�d get ONE interview or rejection, just something.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 8/5/2013 4:20:31 PM

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Anyone know jeremy Kyle's number, want him to get me one of those magical jobs he's always bleating on about

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 14/5/2013 3:53:41 PM

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I'm sending off applications to law firms and some of them want handwritten covering letters. What's the best way to approach this? Lined or plain paper? Fountain pen or ballpoint?

It's kinda funny, I remember reading an article on the BBC website not so long ago about how important graphology was for French employers, and at the time I thought to myself how ridiculous the whole thing was. Now I find myself re-reading the article to pick up any hints/tips

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 16/5/2013 11:55:07 PM

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I got rejected for a training scheme in the NHS which i applied for and was really hoping to get onto. I have one more specialism that I applied for (second choice) so I will see where that goes. No feedback either which I think is a pisstake - ive exhausted the opportunities for NHS work experience and hospital care. I have another application ongoing for a graduate scientist in salisbury/portsmouth, waiting to be invited to a selection centre but I havent heard anything yet. They seem to be a little last minute (i was given 3 hours notice before my telephone interview).

On the flipside I was offered a job at a community health organisation on the other side of Leeds. Its only a 6 month temporary thing with minimum wage, but involves data collection and patient surveys to contribute to reports. Not exactly the line of work I want to go in, but it is in a field relevant to my own interests and its a starting point. Everyone starts somewhere.

Hi Kumar - what are you looking for within the NHS? I might be able to help with some advise, I'm a former commissioner, and have just got a job back with the NHS working with Unplanned Care. The NHS is a bit of a beast, but they look after their own, if you get what I mean. The best thing to do is start from the bottom and do the graft, those that go on the training schemes with associated accelerated promotions etc don't always fare so well. Remember you are always entitled to feedback and should request it via email/letter.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 16/5/2013 11:56:26 PM

The2ndRing

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I'm sending off applications to law firms and some of them want handwritten covering letters. What's the best way to approach this? Lined or plain paper? Fountain pen or ballpoint?

It's kinda funny, I remember reading an article on the BBC website not so long ago about how important graphology was for French employers, and at the time I thought to myself how ridiculous the whole thing was. Now I find myself re-reading the article to pick up any hints/tips

Fountain pen, black ink, unlined good quality paper would be my advise. Clear writing, but not childish.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 17/5/2013 7:15:52 AM

sanchia

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ORIGINAL: The2ndRing

quote:

ORIGINAL: SWOTBM

I'm sending off applications to law firms and some of them want handwritten covering letters. What's the best way to approach this? Lined or plain paper? Fountain pen or ballpoint?

It's kinda funny, I remember reading an article on the BBC website not so long ago about how important graphology was for French employers, and at the time I thought to myself how ridiculous the whole thing was. Now I find myself re-reading the article to pick up any hints/tips

Fountain pen, black ink, unlined good quality paper would be my advise. Clear writing, but not childish.

Having read quite a few in the past (when I worked in that sort of sector) Solicitors and Barristers handwriting I can verify that theirs is worse than most Doctors so maybe a scrawl would be more apt.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 20/5/2013 9:10:58 PM

Ref

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I had my 58th rejection today, and awaiting a further 11 most likely. Got to admit, I'm getting quite down about it now. It's not like I'm going for jobs that I'm unsuitable for.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 21/5/2013 9:03:41 PM

Sumintelligentguy

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Applied for a job in April. Someone pretty high up in that company recently started following me on twitter. Cue me trying to post interesting stuff - one he actually retweeted. I DMed him to gauge whether there was an update re my application - no response. WTF! Why follow me then!?

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You're just a cunt. If i'm gonna get a ban then fine. Ever since I joined this forum I thought you were a massive cunt. Feels good to say it.

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RE: The Unemployed / Made Redundent / Help each other t... - 7/6/2013 4:24:26 PM

SWOTBM

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ORIGINAL: sanchia

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ORIGINAL: The2ndRing

quote:

ORIGINAL: SWOTBM

I'm sending off applications to law firms and some of them want handwritten covering letters. What's the best way to approach this? Lined or plain paper? Fountain pen or ballpoint?

It's kinda funny, I remember reading an article on the BBC website not so long ago about how important graphology was for French employers, and at the time I thought to myself how ridiculous the whole thing was. Now I find myself re-reading the article to pick up any hints/tips

Fountain pen, black ink, unlined good quality paper would be my advise. Clear writing, but not childish.

Having read quite a few in the past (when I worked in that sort of sector) Solicitors and Barristers handwriting I can verify that theirs is worse than most Doctors so maybe a scrawl would be more apt.