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X-Men: First Class - 27/1/2012 8:23:36 PM   
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I looked at all 9 pages of this section and there isn't a thread, seriously.

So ... this was great. Fassbender was badass, the action was great, it had a good sense of fun - hey they even managed to make it look like a comic book version of the 60s unlike that other shit pile X-men prequel. I felt Mystique was a little out of place within the plot, but otherwise it was highly entertaining.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 27/1/2012 10:00:29 PM   
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I'm sure I remember seeing this thread, but it was probably on 'Future Films'.

Anyhoo, I'm not a big fan of the X-Men movies, but this one I really enjoyed. It was just far more engaging for me than the rest, and I thought Fassbender was brilliant too. Plus it has Jennifer Lawrence

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 27/1/2012 10:06:29 PM   
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Awesome-ness, loved this film, from the staging and concept of linking in with the original time scale of the comics to the casting, the action was solid, you really felt for Charles and Eric so much more than in Singer's original films and certainly way more than Last Stand, which was abysmal.

Both McAvoy and Fassbender bring elegance, depth and pain to the pivotal duo and the story is rightly allowed to hinge on their relationship, okay you have the unavoidable 'assembly' of the group but even then it's done with panache and feel in a training sequence with a great soundtrack and the killer scene in the Argentinian bar is pure brilliance.

Bring on the sequel.

4 stars for me.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 27/1/2012 10:34:03 PM   
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Honestly ... I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would. I think it was hyped up for me way too much before hand. It's one of the better X-men Films. Infact if I watched them all again it may rank even higher in my mind. I think the main thing for me was it felt a bit rushed as they squeezed quite a lot into the film. There's still lot's to tell before we get to the X-men teams we all know (Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine etc running things) and it would be interesting to see that team grow.

Highlights include:

  • Magnetos story. I actually wanted more of this.
  • Magneto & Professor X ... I enjoyed what was there but wished it developed more than this. I always thought they knew each other longer than a montage or two.
  • The whole time period appeared to be captured well and funnily enough gave it a different vibe completely and helped to flesh out the story.
I still liked it ... sequel?





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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 12:09:45 AM   
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Its an entertaining film but its my least favourite of all the X men films.Many things in the film doesnt make much sense(Why does the young Eric crush the heads of two nazi officers standing behind him but doesnt even ATTEMPT to hurt the guy sitting right in front of him who just killed his mum? How did Eric escape from Shaw in the first place?).

James Mcavoy is quite good as the young professor X and Bacon steals every scene hes in as Sebastian Shaw.Fassbender has screen presence to be sure but hes nowhere near as good in the role of Eric/Magneto as Ian Mckellan.Also his accent slip ups are really distracting and take you out of the film,particularly when he dons the helmet in the last 10 mins or so.

The Wolverine cameo is hilarious but it further confuses the issue of whether the film is a prequel or reboot.The film cant seem to decide whether its one or the other.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 1:05:39 PM   
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Yeah Sebastian Shaw was great. Personally it ranks alongside X2 as best in the series despite the flaws. I think they come from trying to meld the Magneto Origins plan they had originally with the newer plot elements.

I don't think child Eric was in control during that first scene, just smashing and crushing metal items. He couldn't attempt anything fancy like using the gun or actually directing an object at the guy. Who knows how he got out - but he was just a kid and they went and lost the war in the end so it doesnt matter that much, Shaw probably just went into hiding.

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The Wolverine cameo is hilarious but it further confuses the issue of whether the film is a prequel or reboot.The film cant seem to decide whether its one or the other.


Vaughn couldnt decide either from what I could tell. I thought the whole thing with Cerebro was the most confused part - they say clearly that Erik and Charles built it together, but it doesnt show moving a new version into the school or anything. Some events of The Last Stand and Wolverine Origins have been retconned the most though, a list of continuity issues is here:

http://www.critiques4geeks.com/2011/06/05/x-men-first-class-continuity-errors/

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Also his accent slip ups are really distracting and take you out of the film,particularly when he dons the helmet in the last 10 mins or so.


Yeah I found this too, his German or Irish background or even both came out all of a sudden there... weird. I was also distracted at what teleporter Azazel was doing then those missiles started being fired... i.e. standing there like a lemon.

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Honestly ... I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would. I think it was hyped up for me way too much before hand.
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I still liked it ... sequel?


I kinda expected it to be terrible to be fair just like the previous two. Hype is always a big load of nothing for movies anyway so I usually ignore marketing. It was a nice surprise. Yes to a sequel though if they manage to get this much fun in it. 

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 1:38:03 PM   
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Why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the whole Cuban Missile Crisis plot (essentially the main plot)?

This for me hurt the experience more than any of the inconsistencies with the other films. Because I knew the outcome there was no sense of threat/danger.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 3:24:11 PM   
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I dont think anyone expects the villian to succeed in this kind of film 

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 4:33:37 PM   
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The best X Men film yet by far. Oozed class throughout and was all round well done! It is only held back by glaring continuity inconsistencies (as opposed to errors). Cant wait to see this again, but it is a shame the series does not fit together well at all.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 4:54:14 PM   
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Good points people. It does have enough 'cool' moments to keep you watching though. We all have fave bits, like we all have fave mutants, and so there are lots of times I wish we could have seen more of the development stage stuff. Especially Maggers and Prof X. Here's hoping for a sequel. As if there won't be.....

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 5:53:57 PM   
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Why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the whole Cuban Missile Crisis plot (essentially the main plot)?

This for me hurt the experience more than any of the inconsistencies with the other films. Because I knew the outcome there was no sense of threat/danger.


List me the superhero films where the bad guy wins at the end?

The use of the Crisis was to link one major real life event, with one ficitonal event (Mutantkind is revealled).


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 6:06:13 PM   
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Why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the whole Cuban Missile Crisis plot (essentially the main plot)?

This for me hurt the experience more than any of the inconsistencies with the other films. Because I knew the outcome there was no sense of threat/danger.


Did you honestly think for one minute that Shaw would succeed in this plan? Part of the fun of movies like this is suspending disbelief.I have issues with this film but the whole cuban missile crisis bit isnt one of them.

I do think they stuffed too much ideas into this film without giving any of it a chance to develop.They should possibly have held off on Magneto turning against Charles and concentrated on Shaw as the true villain of the piece.

Another plot point that didnt make sense to me is Charles allowing Eric to kill Shaw.He clearly doesnt want it to happen but despite Shaws being a threat neutraized by Charles mentally ''freezing'' him, he is partly complicit in his death since he doesnt release him before Eric sends that coin through his head.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 6:35:55 PM   
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Releasing him would have killed Eric and potentially allowed Shaw to let out some of the nuclear power he absorbed. Then again, he controlled him and could have made him move out the way so... yeah I dunno. Perhaps it took extra concentration to keep him stood still and using any extra mind power to bat the coin away with a hand was too much.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 6:55:53 PM   
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Suspension of disbelief is fine but it's hard to watch a 2 hour film and think "Oh wow, maybe the Russia and the US are gonna set off the nukes" when it's historical fact it didn't happen. So we have these long scenes with Shaw stating his grand scheme involving Cuba and nukes and I'm sitting there thinking it's a waste of screen time, whilst the scenes with Magneto/Charles (the only interesting thing about the film) are reduced to tiny scenes with two exchanges and then cut to the next scene.

Look at the scene at the Lincoln memorial, lasted about 40 seconds, and compare with the long scene with the X-Kids, aka mutant canon fodder.

The film is confused mess, unsure whether to be a reboot or a genuine prequel (as state before). I'm 75% sure a sequel won't happen.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 6:58:59 PM   
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But it is alternative history - unless there were a bunch of mutants on the beach? Of course the war wasn't going to happen.

And a more general point - people seem really hung up on prequel/reboot thing. I honestly cannot find the will to make it all fit. As a film on its own terms it is as someone else said above "classy" - and felt like it had more going on than the other superhero flicks last year.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:16:36 PM   
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An alternate history that's convenient for Singer's two movies, nothing more.

As stated a sequel (thankfully) looks very unlikely, the cast and crew are doing other things and no script is even being developed at Fox. Hopefully a proper reboot will be the next X-Men movie.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:19:48 PM   
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A script is being developed. It was announced last month. The movie has done great bussiness on home formats.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:21:25 PM   
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For comparison it made 25 million less than Star Trek did WW, but it also cost less than Trek. So those profit margins are about the same. 

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:23:17 PM   
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A script is being developed. It was announced last month. The movie has done great bussiness on home formats.


I want an R-rated Wolverine film beforehand....................,I know,never gonna happen.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:41:18 PM   
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A script is being developed. It was announced last month. The movie has done great bussiness on home formats.


I see that Simon Kinberg has been brought in to script, but nothing has been greenlit.

If The Avengers and Amazing Spiderman are hits this year I reckon Fox will be more inclined to reboot just as they are with Fantastic Four (fingers-crossed).

At the very least I hope Vaughn and Jonathan Ross' wife aren't brought back, Two wealthy upper class Londoners making films about minorities/prejudice.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 7:53:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44
And a more general point - people seem really hung up on prequel/reboot thing. I honestly cannot find the will to make it all fit. As a film on its own terms it is as someone else said above "classy" - and felt like it had more going on than the other superhero flicks last year.



Of all of them last year, it was my least anticipated but somehow ended up being my favourite. It was definately more satisfying than the Marvel Studios efforts that got released.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 9:57:32 PM   
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Two wealthy upper class Londoners making films about minorities/prejudice.


Oh please.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 9:59:19 PM   
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Oh Girv don't you know? You have to be working class yourself to make films about minorities and prejudice. Like Brett Ratner.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/1/2012 10:02:10 PM   
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Suspension of disbelief is fine but it's hard to watch a 2 hour film and think "Oh wow, maybe the Russia and the US are gonna set off the nukes" when it's historical fact it didn't happen.



Tell me Tech, do you ever watch war films? Y'know, the ones where we beat the Germans...?


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 29/1/2012 11:43:02 AM   
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awesome movie, really enjoyed it.I do wish that they'd not included the guy who flies using sound waves, his power is too hard to visualise in a cool way, same with dragonfly girl. other than that though, the FX are top nothc and i love the bit with the sub getting lifted out the water then crashing on the beach!

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 29/1/2012 11:59:36 AM   
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It was alright. Not the worst X-Men film, and not the best either. The continuity stuff with the other films bothers me, but even if I leave that aside there's too many little things that niggle at me for me to really think of it as a slightly missed opportunity.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 30/1/2012 6:51:22 PM   
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Oh no Tech - the rich London bloke is going to make a sequel!

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 31/1/2012 5:21:07 PM   
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Great news.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 1/2/2012 12:16:16 PM   
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I thought First Class was easily the weakest of the X series so far.It should have been called '' X-Kids '' since it seemed to focus more on the teen characters played by bad actors rather than Xavier and Magneto.And lets face it,even there Mcavoy and Fassbender are no Stewart and Mckellan.One of the strengths of the original trilogy of X men films was the great cast and i would like to see a return to the original timeline and X team.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 1/2/2012 12:39:22 PM   
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I thought First Class was easily the weakest of the X series so far.It should have been called '' X-Kids '' since it seemed to focus more on the teen characters played by bad actors rather than Xavier and Magneto.And lets face it,even there Mcavoy and Fassbender are no Stewart and Mckellan.One of the strengths of the original trilogy of X men films was the great cast and i would like to see a return to the original timeline and X team.


What did you think of Fassbender's accent?

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