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Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 7:39:37 PM   
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 So Netflix have started a streaming service here in the UK, does anyone think it will take off? When I was on Lovefilm their streaming service was terrible, really poor quality. Has anyone here used Netflix and what's the picture quality like?

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 7:54:25 PM   
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I've just started using it today and so far it seems great. Huge library (including TV, which is awesome), smooth streaming and clear pictures. It's early days of course, but it looks promising. I'm on LoveFilm too, and while I do like it, I totally know what you mean about the streaming service.

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 8:00:16 PM   
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I'd go the opposite - the choice is unremarkable and very limited with nothing new to the market.

I've signed up for Lovefilm since they've gone for the free trial in competition and their selection is far superior. No idea of quality on either though - Netflix because I couldn't find anything I actually wanted to watch, Lovefilm because I haven't had a chance yet.


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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 8:46:58 PM   
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Well I'd agree that LoveFilm does have a larger choice of films, and I'll probably still use that more for watching them, but I still think Netflix has a fairly substantial one. And, like I said, I love how it has TV shows as well (Arrested Development 1-3 is a highlight). The streaming definitely does seem better on Netflix though, much smoother. The problem I have with LoveFilm is I can't seem to get all the way through a film without it jumping or pausing or glitching in some way.

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 9:04:49 PM   
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Picture quality is surprising good for streaming. Obviously not Blu-ray quality but much better than I expected. The biggest problem is blacks.

I tried Hero for a minute... 1.78:1 when it should be 2.35:1

I tried Ghost in the Shell Complex. English Dub, doesn't seem to be anyway to get Japanese audio.

Selection is limited but there are a quite a few that I might want to watch within the next (FREE) month.

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 9:04:51 PM   
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This may just be me but it looks like Netflix are throwing a lot of content in there on a daily basis so they may be aware that's a key criticism. I'd checked through a lot of sub-genres and I'm pretty sure there is stuff on there that wasn't before.

Having had a look at one from each, the Lovefilm picture is generally clearer with no stuttering but there is an annoying pixelation that occasionally occurs. Netflix is almost at the point of slightly stuttery (you know that slowness that isn't quite a problem but it's just not right?) and there are some focus issues, even though the screen is about 2/3 of Lovefilms.


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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 9:05:57 PM   
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Picture quality is surprising good for streaming. Obviously not Blu-ray quality but much better than I expected.

I tried Hero for a minute... 1.78:1 when it should be 2.35:1

I tried Ghost in the Shell Complex. English Dub, doesn't seem to be anyway to get Japanese audio.

Selection is limited but there are a quite a few that I might want to watch within the next (FREE) month.


Lovefilm seem to offer dub/subtitle for a lot of titles but the only ones I noticed dub only on Netflix were ones where the DVD seems to not have a subtitle - Disappearance of Haruhi Sumizya is one of those I think.


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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 9:35:50 PM   
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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 10:33:37 PM   
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 A facebook friend informed me that with some jiggery pokery you can access the US version, giving you more TV choice. 

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 10:34:20 PM   
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Doesn't that mean paying out for a decent VPN service? 

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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 10:39:59 PM   
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Doesn't that mean paying out for a decent VPN service? 


I don't know what that means.




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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 10:43:02 PM   
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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 10:48:42 PM   
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RE: Netflix UK - 11/1/2012 11:17:22 PM   
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 It's not bad. Not much in the way of great new releases but there's some decent older stuff there.

So far I've just been watching a bit of Breaking Bad on the Xbox and the picture quality was quite good, at least DVD standard.
I'm not sure I'll keep up the sub after the trial though unless their library improves.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 1:53:14 PM   
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It's not bad. Not much in the way of great new releases but there's some decent older stuff there.

So far I've just been watching a bit of Breaking Bad on the Xbox and the picture quality was quite good, at least DVD standard.
I'm not sure I'll keep up the sub after the trial though unless their library improves.


If its at least DVD quality then its a f**k load better than Lovefilms ultra pixelated, Game Boy screen quality images. I may just try out the free trial just to see what its like.

Interestingly and presumably in response to Netflix, I noticed Lovefilm are running a big ad campaign in the papers today, offering 3 months unlimited for £5.99.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 2:03:07 PM   
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It's not bad. Not much in the way of great new releases but there's some decent older stuff there.

So far I've just been watching a bit of Breaking Bad on the Xbox and the picture quality was quite good, at least DVD standard.
I'm not sure I'll keep up the sub after the trial though unless their library improves.


If its at least DVD quality then its a f**k load better than Lovefilms ultra pixelated, Game Boy screen quality images. I may just try out the free trial just to see what its like.

Interestingly and presumably in response to Netflix, I noticed Lovefilm are running a big ad campaign in the papers today, offering 3 months unlimited for £5.99.


I was streaming Tucker and Dale vs Evil from Lovefilm the other day and the quality was perfect DVD quality, same for Black Dynamite a couple of days earlier.

I streamed Biggie and Tupac off it around November and that was shit though. They've either sorted the service out or it varies from film to film. I suspect it's the former because I remember receiving an email off them round about the start of December stating that they were changing their streaming service from Flash to Silverlight.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 2:10:10 PM   
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Silverlight is what Netflix use too - there's a DL as you go through the registration process.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 2:42:54 PM   
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 Well I haven't used Lovefilm for just under a year so I guess they've improved their stream, possibly in anticipation of Netflix. When I last used it, it was terrible. In terms of film rental, streaming is the way forward so the war between the two will depend on library and quality. Getting DVD/BD's through the post is on its way out, I mean why wait 2-3 days for the unreliable Royal Mail to drop a disc through your door when you can just click and get it right away? That's why I quit Lovefilm, it got to the point when I was sometimes waiting a week or more for a film to arrive. And the fact that its not up to you which film they send you.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 2:49:50 PM   
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Well I haven't used Lovefilm for just under a year so I guess they've improved their stream, possibly in anticipation of Netflix. When I last used it, it was terrible. In terms of film rental, streaming is the way forward so the war between the two will depend on library and quality. Getting DVD/BD's through the post is on its way out, I mean why wait 2-3 days for the unreliable Royal Mail to drop a disc through your door when you can just click and get it right away? That's why I quit Lovefilm, it got to the point when I was sometimes waiting a week or more for a film to arrive. And the fact that its not up to you which film they send you.


I have no complaints with Lovefilm's deliveries. If I sent a film back today It's pretty much guaranteed I'd have a replacement on Saturday. For the last 2 years I've experienced a 2 day turn over off them without exception. As for what film you get I tend to put everything on Low Priority apart from the 2 or 3 I want the most, which I put on High Priority, and more often than not I get what I want.

Having said that though I am using the streaming service a lot more now but that's mainly because I have the account that allows game rentals as well. If I have 2 games at home (like I currently do) then it can be a good few weeks before I send them back. That's when streaming comes in handy to me.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 3:23:40 PM   
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 Yeah, I'm with Harry - I'm generally very happy with LoveFilm. The turnarounds between sending a film back and getting a new one tends to be very speedy, and as I always keep between 4-6 films on high priority, I always get what I want - and if I'm waiting too long, there's always the streaming (which is generally pretty good, the occasional pause for buffering, but not the Game Boy quality Spalds had).

I had an issue last month where about half my list jumped onto short/long wait, I queried it, and it was sorted with a free rental within a couple of days.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 3:26:47 PM   
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I'm unlikely to stick to streaming past the free trials either - Tesco turnaround is fine (and I normally get my priority titles first at the moment). Blockbuster has slowed again, although you'd think they'd pick their game up with new entries to the market. The Top Ticket thing allows a degree of specific choice too.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 9:07:04 PM   
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 I've been pretty happy with the LoveFilm service since I switched from Tesco. The turnaround time for post DVD's is pretty quick and the streaming selection has gotten a lot better in the run up to Christmas and since the service started on Xbox. But a free trial is not to be ignored. The film selection on Netflix at the moment isn't fantastic but the TV selection is pretty good (Breaking Bad, Arrested Development and a ton of Top Gear). I'll stick with Netflix through the month and see if the film selection improves before cancelling.

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RE: Netflix UK - 12/1/2012 10:24:40 PM   
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Went to watch Dune, it started pretty well, looked pretty good then after the opening credits it went from 2.35:1 to 1.78:1.

Then I tried Phenomena wanting to see it if it was any better than the garbage Blu-ray, but no, it's pan/scan and looks like VHS.

Got to say I'm being disappointed a lot with this free service.

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RE: Netflix UK - 13/1/2012 10:56:01 AM   
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Went to watch Dune, it started pretty well, looked pretty good then after the opening credits it went from 2.35:1 to 1.78:1.

Then I tried Phenomena wanting to see it if it was any better than the garbage Blu-ray, but no, it's pan/scan and looks like VHS.

Got to say I'm being disappointed a lot with this free service.


I have to say if they're cropping their films like fucking terrestrial television then I'm flat out not signing up. I have a real issue with false aspect ratio.

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RE: Netflix UK - 15/1/2012 5:55:17 PM   
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Went to watch Dune, it started pretty well, looked pretty good then after the opening credits it went from 2.35:1 to 1.78:1.

Then I tried Phenomena wanting to see it if it was any better than the garbage Blu-ray, but no, it's pan/scan and looks like VHS.

Got to say I'm being disappointed a lot with this free service.


I have to say if they're cropping their films like fucking terrestrial television then I'm flat out not signing up. I have a real issue with false aspect ratio.



To be honest, that'll probably be more down to the masters they receive from the distributor, rather than Netflix themselves.

I do honestly reckon that this is the future model for distribution. Give it 6 months to iron out the kinks and allow everyone to get their TVs made 'internet ready,' and we're on our way. Plus their library will inevitably expand substantially over the coming months.

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RE: Netflix UK - 15/1/2012 6:40:11 PM   
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To be honest, that'll probably be more down to the masters they receive from the distributor, rather than Netflix themselves.

I do honestly reckon that this is the future model for distribution. Give it 6 months to iron out the kinks and allow everyone to get their TVs made 'internet ready,' and we're on our way. Plus their library will inevitably expand substantially over the coming months.


Agree with this. Like I said upthread and on other sub-forums (and been burned for it btw) I honestly believe the future of film rentals and probably purchases is purely non-physical formats. And with internet speeds increasing every year it wont be long before we'll be offered blu-ray quality streaming.

On another note I saw an ad today for Lovefilm offering a streaming only service for £4.99 a month, which is a quid cheaper than Netflix. Looks like the streaming war is on!

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RE: Netflix UK - 15/1/2012 7:03:37 PM   
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 I'm with Harry and Matthew on the Lovefilm... love.

Despite the lack of new Universal titles, it's an excellent service. Also - they didn't seem to care when I returned a disc and it got lost in the post.

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RE: Netflix UK - 16/1/2012 11:31:45 AM   
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I've been pretty happy with the LoveFilm service since I switched from Tesco. The turnaround time for post DVD's is pretty quick and the streaming selection has gotten a lot better in the run up to Christmas and since the service started on Xbox. But a free trial is not to be ignored. The film selection on Netflix at the moment isn't fantastic but the TV selection is pretty good (Breaking Bad, Arrested Development and a ton of Top Gear). I'll stick with Netflix through the month and see if the film selection improves before cancelling.


Isn't Tesco Lovefilm anymore?


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RE: Netflix UK - 16/1/2012 7:04:29 PM   
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 There doesn't seem to be a search box on the Netflix site which is bloody weird - also their selection seems massively limited as far as I can see. If they had The Wire I'd sign up on the spot.

I wouldn't drop Lovefilm though  - I'd like to stay loyal to them because their customer services have been fantastic to me.

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RE: Netflix UK - 16/1/2012 7:16:12 PM   
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There doesn't seem to be a search box on the Netflix site which is bloody weird


You know the grey toolbar that has the genres/suggestions for you section? The search box is on the right hand side of that toolbar.


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