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RE: Dredd (2012) - 12/6/2012 6:14:08 PM   
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Has anyone else heard DROKK - Music Inspired By Mega City One by Geoff "Portishead" Barrow?

It's like John Carpenter meets Blade Runner with bits of early Howard "Scanners" Shore, Terminator, Day of the Dead, Kraftwerk, Queen's Flash Gordon (!) and Kim Wilde's Kids In America(!!) thrown in. He also cites Delia Derbyshire as an influence.

By turns driving and sinister, Barrow's electronica soundscape (cityscape?) has a wonderfully retro-futuristic vibe which is perfectly in keeping with Judge Dredd - Barrow deliberately didn't use any synths from after 1977 when 2000AD was created for precisely that reason.

And get this - Barrow has said in an interview that DROKK started out as the score to the forthcoming Dredd movie before the producers had second thoughts! Not that the philosophical Barrow bears any grudges; he says Alex Garland's script is su-perb and the finished film's gonna be... well, zarjaz!

I can't stop listening to this - it's mental to drive to. Whoever is doing the music for Dredd really has his work cut out for him...*





* Someone called Paul Leonard-Morgan apparently. He's done a lot of telly (Spooks, Silent Witness) and according to his website his stuff sounds similar to DROKK: "strings and electronica." (Maybe DNA thought Barrow's compositions were just a wee bit too derivative.) Plus Judge Dredd creator, John Wagner, says Morgan's score is "on the button."

Also, intriguingly, it looks like Dredd is going to be an 18 certificate in the UK, which means it's gonna be pretty full-on!

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 12/6/2012 6:31:11 PM   
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Yep, DROKK's great, and would have made a great soundtrack for the new film. To show that there's no hard feelings, maybe they could provide a link at Dredd (2012)'s newly-launched official wesite:


http://www.dreddthemovie.com/





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RE: Dredd (2012) - 12/6/2012 11:16:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chris kilby

Has anyone else heard DROKK - Music Inspired By Mega City One by Geoff "Portishead" Barrow?

It's like John Carpenter meets Blade Runner with bits of early Howard "Scanners" Shore, Terminator, Day of the Dead, Kraftwerk, Queen's Flash Gordon (!) and Kim Wilde's Kids In America(!!) thrown in. He also cites Delia Derbyshire as an influence.

By turns driving and sinister, Barrow's electronica soundscape (cityscape?) has a wonderfully retro-futuristic vibe which is perfectly in keeping with Judge Dredd - Barrow deliberately didn't use any synths from after 1977 when 2000AD was created for precisely that reason.

And get this - Barrow has said in an interview that DROKK started out as the score to the forthcoming Dredd movie before the producers had second thoughts! Not that the philosophical Barrow bears any grudges; he says Alex Garland's script is su-perb and the finished film's gonna be... well, zarjaz!

I can't stop listening to this - it's mental to drive to. Whoever is doing the music for Dredd really has his work cut out for him...*





* Someone called Paul Leonard-Morgan apparently. He's done a lot of telly (Spooks, Silent Witness) and according to his website his stuff sounds similar to DROKK: "strings and electronica." (Maybe DNA thought Barrow's compositions were just a wee bit too derivative.) Plus Judge Dredd creator, John Wagner, says Morgan's score is "on the button."

Also, intriguingly, it looks like Dredd is going to be an 18 certificate in the UK, which means it's gonna be pretty full-on!


Well, if as they said they were actively going for an atmos of Clockwork Orange meets Blade Runner for Dredd, Drokk certainly delivered, but as you suggesr, a little too recognisably, particularly the Blade Runner part of that equation


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RE: - 15/6/2012 9:13:40 AM   
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Some more pic's online, looking fantastic!! :D

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RE: RE: - 15/6/2012 4:29:10 PM   
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RE: RE: - 15/6/2012 5:07:27 PM   
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Those look fucking brilliant. I've isolated the most Dredd-related ones:



http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/179983_443240125693846_1640959106_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/536081_443240202360505_1469232673_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533350_443240255693833_1208749543_n.jpg


Check the shop signs in the last one; very Megacity- "You Loot, We Shoot!".
Now things are starting to get rolling with the pre-publicity for this film, everything I see just gets better and better.





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RE: Dredd (2012) - 15/6/2012 6:13:35 PM   
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 Looking good. I like that the green in the costume is still there.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 12:49:07 AM   
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Still listening to DROKK - highly recommended. Now I'm hearing Dark Side of the Moon era Pink Floyd in there as well!

I so want this movie to be good. I gotta admit, I didn't mind the Stallone version. If anything, it tried too hard to be faithful and crammed far too much in - block wars, The Long Walk, etc. I didn't even have a particular problem with Stallone removing the helmet - you don't put a huge star like that in a film then keep his face hidden. (They could have at least given him some scars and a crew cut though!) That's why Dredd shoulda been played by an unknown who coulda kept the helmet on. Mark "Aliens" Rolston woulda been perfect!

The biggest problem with the Stallone version wasn't the helmet, the gold cod piece (a cod piece? Ye'd get a whole fish supper in there!) or even the, er, dreaded Rob Schneider. No the biggest problem was understandable studio jitters that the "hero" was "a fascist" (and Batman isn't?) dictated that Dredd should face off against judges who were even bigger fascists than he was. But as John Wagner himself has pointed out - Dredd was never about dynastic struggles and the corridors of power. Dredd's place is on the streets and even those dumb flying bikes kept him away from them. Rather than being a secondary threat, the Angel Gang shoulda been the main villains!

What I really want to see is Dredd go back to his Dirty Harry roots - Dredd as a futuristic urban samurai only marginally less psychotic than the creeps he puts away. So I am encouraged that this new movie appears to be "a day in the life" - Die Hard on steroids!

And while I'd have loved to have seen Ron Perlman in the helmet - an actor who's used to having his fizzog obscured by prosthetics! - I think Karl Urban was an inspired choice. He's never delivered the same performance twice - he was solid in LOTR, reassuringly convincing as a taciturn killer in The Bourne Supremacy, stole the show as Bones in Star Trek and kicked Bruce Willis' ass in RED.

I'm also encouraged by the rumours of an 18 certificate - I'd buy that for a dollar!

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 1:36:42 AM   
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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 1:57:15 AM   
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 The problem was the entire film, some of the production design was passable but was a whole it's just plain bad.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:00:29 AM   
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I didn't even have a particular problem with Stallone removing the helmet - you don't put a huge star like that in a film then keep his face hidden. (



You don't cast Stallone in a Dredd film. End of story.



Um, they did. Sure, it shoulda been Arnie. But what can you do?

("I am Der Law!" Vs "I am Duh Luh!")

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:14:05 AM   
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I didn't even have a particular problem with Stallone removing the helmet - you don't put a huge star like that in a film then keep his face hidden. (



You don't cast Stallone in a Dredd film. End of story.



Um, they did. Sure, it shoulda been Arnie. But what can you do?

("I am Der Law!" Vs "I am Duh Luh!")



Or Rutger Hauer! Go for the Mick McMahon style Dredd

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:25:11 AM   
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The problem was the entire film, some of the production design was passable but was a whole it's just plain bad.


Oh yeah, it was crap. There's no denying it. Twenty years of back story at that point and they picked the most trite, cliche-ridden Dredd story of all - the long-lost evil twin brother. Sheesh! But I'm an eternal optimist/schmuck and even the worst films still have little nuggets of potential in them. Mean Machine was absolutely spot-on! If only the Angel Gang had been the main villains.

I'd still like to see a full Director's Cut even if only out of morbid curiosity. The studio clearly panicked and butchered this film at the last minute to squeeze as many screenings out of it as possible, cutting their losses before the expected bad word-of-mouth killed it - a self-fulfilling prophecy if ever there was one. A Director's Cut couldn't possibly be any worse and surely would be more coherent at least a la the DC of Highlander II - not great by any means, but a definite improvement.

The Avengers is another one. No, not that one! The Ralph Fiennes/Uma Thurman one. Another film butchered by its own studio thus guaranteeing it would be a box office disaster, The Avengers has gotta be the only movie I have ever seen where virtually nothing in the trailer made it into the final film - including an action-packed pre-title set-piece the absence of which made the film incoherent from the start.

While the leads were horribly miscast (po-faced at the best of times, Fiennes looks like he's about to burst into tears throughout and Thurman looks simply terrible), this film isn't without charm and captures something of the original show's quirky English eccentricity. Those much derided teddy bear suits were totally in the daft spirit of the show.

Having said that, the whole thing was horribly misconceived - The Avengers was so of its time, it probably should have been set in the sixties, assuming it should have been revived at all. Plus jolly old Patrick MacNee is a genuine one-off and surely irreplaceable. I can't think of a single actor who could ever hope to fill his bowler hat. Can you...?

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:26:12 AM   
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I didn't even have a particular problem with Stallone removing the helmet - you don't put a huge star like that in a film then keep his face hidden. (



You don't cast Stallone in a Dredd film. End of story.



Um, they did. Sure, it shoulda been Arnie. But what can you do?

("I am Der Law!" Vs "I am Duh Luh!")



Or Rutger Hauer!


"I've seen things you creeps wouldn't believe..."

quote:

Go for the Mick McMahon style Dredd



His feet aren't big enough.


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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:30:07 AM   
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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:32:58 AM   
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In fairness it was one of the very first Dredd stories and the strip hadn't settled down at that point. They didn't even include the best line: "He ain't heavy. He's my brother." Boom and indeed, boom!

Nah, the biggest problem facing any Dredd movie is that the greatest Dredd movie of all is Robocop - futuristic ultraviolence, vicious satire and all. Check out some of Rob Bottin's earliest designs of Robo's helmet on the DVD if you don't believe me! Plus Robocop is a very clever inversion of Dredd - where Dredd is essentially a man who is a machine, Robocop is a machine who is essentially a man and therefore more sympathetic.

Much as I am looking forward to the new Dredd movie, it will have to go some way to top Robocop - your move, creeps!

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 3:24:56 AM   
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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 3:55:15 AM   
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 Armand Assante was the only good thing about the first film. Its like he was the only one who took it seriously, the rest just knew it was a pile of dogshit.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 11:59:48 AM   
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Armand Assante was the only good thing about the first film. Its like he was the only one who took it seriously.


You think?! I thought he acted so over the top and hammy that it was almost as though he was taking the piss!

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 12:51:20 PM   
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Armand Assante was the only good thing about the first film. Its like he was the only one who took it seriously, the rest just knew it was a pile of dogshit.


and diane lane pitched her performance just right as hershey.

kinda hope she pops up as chief judge in a cameo in the new fil.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 1:06:19 PM   
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Mean Machine was absolutely spot-on! If only the Angel Gang had been the main villains.


Yes, that's the kind of thing I was thinking about; Mean Angel and the ABC warrior are some of the memorable elements, it has some great visuals - things that should have been used to build a vastly better film, but the rest is just an awful Stallone/Schneider vehicle.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 1:12:52 PM   
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Armand Assante was the only good thing about the first film. Its like he was the only one who took it seriously, the rest just knew it was a pile of dogshit.


And diane lane pitched her performance just right as hershey, kinda hope she pops up as chief judge in a cameo in the new film.


Diane Lane would be welcome back anytime- she's a beautiful and talented actress- but the Chief Judge in this new film is played by Dr Who and Black Mirror alumnus Rakie Ayola (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043931/), who shares those same qualities.

Armand Assante's everything AND the kitchen sink performance would have been great if Judge Dredd (1995) had been an over-the-top parody like Flash Gordon (1980) or a satire like Dr Strangelove (1964). With everyone else around him unsure exactly what kind of film they were supposed to be making, and how to pitch their own performances, Assante's efforts were wasted.

The greatest thing this new film has going for it is that everyone involved has had a clear vision of what they were trying to do from day one.


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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 2:58:42 PM   
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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 4:25:46 PM   
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I want to know if Empire plan to run another article on Dredd,would love to read an interview with Pete Travis and Garland and see what all that fuss was about once the dust has settled.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 4:35:07 PM   
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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 4:46:37 PM   
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Chief Judge Token Black Woman in Power.


The hero's got to have a black buddy to show he's cool and who he can seek revenge for when they get wasted- that's Film Making 101.

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I want to know if Empire plan to run another article on Dredd,would love to read an interview with Pete Travis and Garland and see what all that fuss was about once the dust has settled.


I'm holding my breath, Danbo ...

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 4:58:08 PM   
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Go back to the Yahoo forums.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 5:06:35 PM   
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Chief Judge Token Black Woman in Power.

Go back to the Yahoo forums.


BITCH FIGHT!

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 6:27:08 PM   
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I want to know if Empire plan to run another article on Dredd,would love to read an interview with Pete Travis and Garland and see what all that fuss was about once the dust has settled.




Do you think they'll really put the 'truth' in print?

They might do,I've seen similar things before.I wasn't just referring to the 'incident' but more of a general interview about their experiences,anecdotes etc.

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RE: Dredd (2012) - 16/6/2012 6:40:30 PM   
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