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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:14:30 PM   
Dirk Miggler


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Breathing and eating are essential to survive, we don't do either we die, the same cannot be said for sex.

Yes I do think there is confusion, but that's from the wording being used, we are saying the act of sex is a human right, every human on this earth. Now I don't think anyone here is saying there is a right to rape, a right to underage sex, thats insane but referring to sex as a human right, it can definately be construed as such and that's why it doesn't sit well with me.

Consensual sex, thats fine, I agree. The act of sex itself, no.

< Message edited by Dirk Miggler -- 16/1/2012 9:15:16 PM >

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:23:46 PM   
Goodfella


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Sex is a human right?

Really?

I'm with Jim on this one. It reminds me where it is often stated that having children is a human right. I don't agree with that statement either.


I can think of a few humans right now, off the top of my head, who shouldn't be allowed to have children...

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:29:53 PM   
superdan


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I still have the right to drain my spuds manually though, don't I? That at the very least has to be a basic human right.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:32:27 PM   
Goodfella


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I still have the right to drain my spuds manually though, don't I? That at the very least has to be a basic human right.


You can drain your spuds however you wish my friend. Makes it far easier to mash them in my experience.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:42:12 PM   
superdan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella


quote:

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I still have the right to drain my spuds manually though, don't I? That at the very least has to be a basic human right.


You can drain your spuds however you wish my friend. Makes it far easier to mash them in my experience.


You saucy flirt you.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 16/1/2012 9:46:08 PM   
Goodfella


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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Goodfella


quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan

I still have the right to drain my spuds manually though, don't I? That at the very least has to be a basic human right.


You can drain your spuds however you wish my friend. Makes it far easier to mash them in my experience.


You saucy flirt you.


As long as it is done, of course, in the privacy of your own cooking equipment.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:11:54 AM   
Funkyrae


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ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

Breathing and eating are essential to survive, we don't do either we die, the same cannot be said for sex.

Yes I do think there is confusion, but that's from the wording being used, we are saying the act of sex is a human right, every human on this earth. Now I don't think anyone here is saying there is a right to rape, a right to underage sex, thats insane but referring to sex as a human right, it can definately be construed as such and that's why it doesn't sit well with me.

Consensual sex, thats fine, I agree. The act of sex itself, no.


If we don't have sex we'll soon die out as a race therefore it is pretty intrinsic to our nature.

I'm absolutely willing to agree that the wording of it is causing all kinds of headaches, and yes, could be potentially seen as an argument for rape. But look at this realistically:

Angry, hating the world, especially women (although yes, men are raped too) for whatever reason and using sex as a weapon is rape. Enjoying seeing the humiliation of a person by forcing them to have sex chikan style, again, that's rape. That's about as far away from feeling horny and wanting a good time as you can get.

We state that property rights and education are human rights, yet we can survive without going to school or owning a home.

Even prisoners are allowed conjugal rights.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:22:58 AM   
JIm R

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Funkyrae


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

Breathing and eating are essential to survive, we don't do either we die, the same cannot be said for sex.

Yes I do think there is confusion, but that's from the wording being used, we are saying the act of sex is a human right, every human on this earth. Now I don't think anyone here is saying there is a right to rape, a right to underage sex, thats insane but referring to sex as a human right, it can definately be construed as such and that's why it doesn't sit well with me.

Consensual sex, thats fine, I agree. The act of sex itself, no.


If we don't have sex we'll soon die out as a race therefore it is pretty intrinsic to our nature.

I'm absolutely willing to agree that the wording of it is causing all kinds of headaches, and yes, could be potentially seen as an argument for rape. But look at this realistically:

Angry, hating the world, especially women (although yes, men are raped too) for whatever reason and using sex as a weapon is rape. Enjoying seeing the humiliation of a person by forcing them to have sex chikan style, again, that's rape. That's about as far away from feeling horny and wanting a good time as you can get.

We state that property rights and education are human rights, yet we can survive without going to school or owning a home.

Even prisoners are allowed conjugal rights.


Point being is, we can survive without sex, food and drink no, are essentials, sex is not an essential as a staple of our lifestyle. Very hard to get by without the basic ingredients of life, sex ain't one of them.
 
Nice and dandy if you are enjoying it but it's not an essential to life, at least for me, and that's the thing, it's all relative and personal to the formation of our own life.
 
See where Funky is coming from though.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:33:41 AM   
Flatulent_Bob


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Funkyrae
If we don't have sex we'll soon die out as a race therefore it is pretty intrinsic to our nature.

Sex for procreation and sex purely for recreational purposes aren't the same thing IMHO.
If you are talking instincts then it would be purely for procreational purposes, and the instinct to produce young is hardly uncontrollable to the vast majority, in fact in this day and age some are frightened to death of it.




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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:45:06 AM   
UTB


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R

quote:

ORIGINAL: Funkyrae


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

Breathing and eating are essential to survive, we don't do either we die, the same cannot be said for sex.

Yes I do think there is confusion, but that's from the wording being used, we are saying the act of sex is a human right, every human on this earth. Now I don't think anyone here is saying there is a right to rape, a right to underage sex, thats insane but referring to sex as a human right, it can definately be construed as such and that's why it doesn't sit well with me.

Consensual sex, thats fine, I agree. The act of sex itself, no.


If we don't have sex we'll soon die out as a race therefore it is pretty intrinsic to our nature.

I'm absolutely willing to agree that the wording of it is causing all kinds of headaches, and yes, could be potentially seen as an argument for rape. But look at this realistically:

Angry, hating the world, especially women (although yes, men are raped too) for whatever reason and using sex as a weapon is rape. Enjoying seeing the humiliation of a person by forcing them to have sex chikan style, again, that's rape. That's about as far away from feeling horny and wanting a good time as you can get.

We state that property rights and education are human rights, yet we can survive without going to school or owning a home.

Even prisoners are allowed conjugal rights.


Point being is, we can survive without sex, food and drink no, are essentials, sex is not an essential as a staple of our lifestyle. Very hard to get by without the basic ingredients of life, sex ain't one of them.



Speak for yourself

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:52:40 AM   
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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 17/1/2012 9:58:50 AM   
JIm R

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: UTB

quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R

quote:

ORIGINAL: Funkyrae


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirk Miggler

Breathing and eating are essential to survive, we don't do either we die, the same cannot be said for sex.

Yes I do think there is confusion, but that's from the wording being used, we are saying the act of sex is a human right, every human on this earth. Now I don't think anyone here is saying there is a right to rape, a right to underage sex, thats insane but referring to sex as a human right, it can definately be construed as such and that's why it doesn't sit well with me.

Consensual sex, thats fine, I agree. The act of sex itself, no.


If we don't have sex we'll soon die out as a race therefore it is pretty intrinsic to our nature.

I'm absolutely willing to agree that the wording of it is causing all kinds of headaches, and yes, could be potentially seen as an argument for rape. But look at this realistically:

Angry, hating the world, especially women (although yes, men are raped too) for whatever reason and using sex as a weapon is rape. Enjoying seeing the humiliation of a person by forcing them to have sex chikan style, again, that's rape. That's about as far away from feeling horny and wanting a good time as you can get.

We state that property rights and education are human rights, yet we can survive without going to school or owning a home.

Even prisoners are allowed conjugal rights.


Point being is, we can survive without sex, food and drink no, are essentials, sex is not an essential as a staple of our lifestyle. Very hard to get by without the basic ingredients of life, sex ain't one of them.



Speak for yourself



Well it's not to me, that's all I'm saying, far more important things in life.  and taking into account Funky's , adding

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 20/4/2012 3:42:30 PM   
King of Kafiristan

 

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I saw this story last evening and it really burned me up.

TEACHER FIRED FOR HAVING A PAST IN PORN


Let's examine the facts

Is adult film work legal in the United States? Yes. Was this woman a licensed teacher who had been placed in a classroom because school administrators felt she was qualified for the job? Yes.

Then how exactly are they able to kick this woman to the curb? How can they remove her from a job she trained and studied for? She didn't break any laws. She did her adult film work before beginning her teaching career. This is a moralist witch hunt, and I'm saddened ashamed to see it happen in my country.

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 23/4/2012 2:20:11 AM   
sam89


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Melanie Philips launches into a tirade against the evils of porn (without providing the slightest bit of evidence):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2133640/So-Minister-civil-liberties-porn-users-important-children.html

The most puzzling quote: "In any civilised society, freedom comes with responsibility. By refusing properly to police provision of this vile material, these companies are in effect making themselves complicit in child sexual abuse."

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 23/4/2012 4:59:15 AM   
King of Kafiristan

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sam89

Melanie Philips launches into a tirade against the evils of porn (without providing the slightest bit of evidence):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2133640/So-Minister-civil-liberties-porn-users-important-children.html

The most puzzling quote: "In any civilised society, freedom comes with responsibility. By refusing properly to police provision of this vile material, these companies are in effect making themselves complicit in child sexual abuse."



What on earth??

I can only think that those who view sex and porn as vile must themselves be used to having terrible sex.

Oh, and BTW, the Romans had porn graffiti all over their public spaces, and until the Christians came along things were going just fine for them..

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RE: Young people's attitudes to sex 'changed' by internet - 23/4/2012 1:50:08 PM   
Discodez

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: King of Kafiristan


quote:

ORIGINAL: sam89

Melanie Philips launches into a tirade against the evils of porn (without providing the slightest bit of evidence):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2133640/So-Minister-civil-liberties-porn-users-important-children.html

The most puzzling quote: "In any civilised society, freedom comes with responsibility. By refusing properly to police provision of this vile material, these companies are in effect making themselves complicit in child sexual abuse."



What on earth??

I can only think that those who view sex and porn as vile must themselves be used to having terrible sex.

Oh, and BTW, the Romans had porn graffiti all over their public spaces, and until the Christians came along things were going just fine for them..


It's about time someone did something to protect our children from the insane neo-nazi ramblings of the sexist-xenophobe (yes I know she's a woman and mixed race but she's till a cunt) that is Melanie Phillips... same goes for the rest of anything appearing on the mail online website.

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