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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 12:32:36 PM   
sroey


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Could be a day one purchase for me then...looks great.

Someone mentioned it might be free...


Really? Even better!


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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 1:57:11 PM   
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 Project Spark free and for 360 as well as XB1.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/e3-project-spark-qa

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 3:35:53 PM   
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 MS have announced that first part XBOne games will cost the same price in the US as current 360 games.

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 4:31:10 PM   
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 I hope they do frequent sales like Steam. I'm not expecting Steam-sized reductions but having digital games frequently cheaper than retail ones would be a big incentive.

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 4:34:34 PM   
DJ Satan


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I hope they do frequent sales like Steam. I'm not expecting Steam-sized reductions but having digital games frequently cheaper than retail ones would be a big incentive.

They have started recently. I've picked up serveral games like RE6 and Demon Souls for £8 each.

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 5:41:23 PM   
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Project Spark free and for 360 as well as XB1.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/e3-project-spark-qa


Sounds promising but I wouldn't be surprised if every tool in the creator required micro transactions.

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 6:39:36 PM   
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Bollocks to it, stuck a deposit down on an Xbox One this afternoon at GAME.

I've been sitting around weighing it up for hours and the simple fact remains that out of the first wave games announced thus far, the stuff I want to play is on Xbox One, coupled with the pad, Live and a couple of my mates expressing similar intentions, I was having a hard time coming to any other conclusion.

I'll be buying a PS4 as well at some point, assuming some note-worthy exclusives rear their head eventually, but for the time being, it's Xbox, unless the cross-platform stuff is seriously gimped on the less powerful Xbox hardware, in which case I may have to re-evaluate, but time will tell with that.

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RE: Xbox One - 17/6/2013 8:32:28 PM   
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Welcome to the club. Do you want to be my family?

I saw this article this morning. Not sure if it legit or not but certainly sums up a lot of my feelings.

http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions



It sums up alot of my feelings in the end too: >"Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4."

I buy computer consoles to play computer games, I want to stay with X1 and play those tastey looking exclusives but at the moment with the MS attitude of "If your router fails or you live in a poor broadband area then fuck you" has me sitting on Sonys side of the fence looking over at X1 waiting to see what they do.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 8:23:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JAYDAK1SS


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ORIGINAL: DJ Satan

Welcome to the club. Do you want to be my family?

I saw this article this morning. Not sure if it legit or not but certainly sums up a lot of my feelings.

http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions



It sums up alot of my feelings in the end too: >"Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4."

I buy computer consoles to play computer games, I want to stay with X1 and play those tastey looking exclusives but at the moment with the MS attitude of "If your router fails or you live in a poor broadband area then fuck you" has me sitting on Sonys side of the fence looking over at X1 waiting to see what they do.


There has been some chatter - albeit unconfirmed - that you could use your mobile phone network to do the 24 hour online check-in. This won't help if you're permanently without BB, but at least it may help if your connection is down temporarily

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 9:35:38 AM   
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There has been some chatter - albeit unconfirmed - that you could use your mobile phone network to do the 24 hour online check-in. This won't help if you're permanently without BB, but at least it may help if your connection is down temporarily



I wouldn't exactly call it chatter, doubt it needs confirming, a wireless hotspot (assuming your smartphone is capable of such things) is an internet connection just like any other, no reason why it wouldn't work.

I've done it with Xbox Live before now, my brother's internet was down and coincidentally his gamertag corrupted whilst he was offline, so it needed recovering. I had fairly decent H+ reception at the time, so we fired up my Samsung Galaxy S2 hotspot and signed into Live that way, it wasn't exactly fast but it got the job done.

Hugely dependant on coverage/signal obviously, but it could be a quick fix for those stuck up shit creek.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 11:01:33 AM   
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 Is there any faith in this Cloud processing thing? Each XB1 having the equivalent of 3 or even 10 Xboxes processing in the Cloud (depending on where you read), sounds impressive... Would it be naive to think this could close the gap in specs between the XB1 and the PS4?

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 11:06:35 AM   
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Would it be naive to think this could close the gap in specs between the XB1 and the PS4?



Probably!

The following link is a nice write-up on the possibilities, or lack thereof.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 11:44:55 AM   
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Would it be naive to think this could close the gap in specs between the XB1 and the PS4?



Probably!

The following link is a nice write-up on the possibilities, or lack thereof.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming


Thanks. I read that and now I have a headache. From what I can gather Cloud processing will work with some elements and is shit at others so its a balancing act on what your home console will be computing and the cloud. Say we have huge maps in BF4 the Cloud can sort all that shit out leaving your XB1 to work the instant processing needed for movement, shots, character animations?

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 12:04:05 PM   
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Thanks. I read that and now I have a headache. From what I can gather Cloud processing will work with some elements and is shit at others so its a balancing act on what your home console will be computing and the cloud. Say we have huge maps in BF4 the Cloud can sort all that shit out leaving your XB1 to work the instant processing needed for movement, shots, character animations?


Anything that is dependent on extremely low latency can't be done in the cloud. So if, as seems likely, there is a power deficit in Xbox's GPU the cloud is unlikely to help. It will not be any benefit at all as far as closing the gap in memory bandwidth.

But for things like deferred AI and maintaining persistent worlds it is a pretty good solution. If you have played any MMORPG you have seen this in action. We just don't think of it a cloud computing because it hasn't been advertised as such.

This is why I find it puzzling that Microsoft is touting cloud computing as a unique selling point: it isn't. Any company or developer can tap into the cloud. If you wanted to you could set up a cloud computing server to play with for free at Amazon. This isn't anything particularly new or innovative.

It is true it hasn't been used often in single player games, but I'm not convinced this isn't a way to get always online in through the side door. And that is potentially troublesome for those who live in areas with spotty internet service. It also makes a bit of a mockery of Microsoft's recent statements that you can use a tethered phone to check in. That's all well and good, unless your game won't work because it can't connect to the server.

Maybe I'm just being overly cynical.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 12:11:29 PM   
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 One thing the cloud might help with is preventing the early shut downs of servers for games like Chromehounds. Instead of the same maintenance costs for running the same number of servers to maintain a shrinking userbase, as the userbase shrinks so does the requirements for the servers. By utilising the flexibility of the cloud's processing power game servers can remain online for a lot longer.

*EA will still probably use server shut downs to drive annual game sales though.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 12:13:54 PM   
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One thing the cloud might help with is preventing the early shut downs of servers for games like Chromehounds. Instead of the same maintenance costs for running the same number of servers to maintain a shrinking userbase, as the userbase shrinks so does the requirements for the servers. By utilising the flexibility of the cloud's processing power game servers can remain online for a lot longer.

*EA will still probably use server shut downs to drive annual game sales though.


I thought EA games use their own servers and you have to sign into their service to play online? Or am I wrong about that?

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 12:35:51 PM   
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One thing the cloud might help with is preventing the early shut downs of servers for games like Chromehounds. Instead of the same maintenance costs for running the same number of servers to maintain a shrinking userbase, as the userbase shrinks so does the requirements for the servers. By utilising the flexibility of the cloud's processing power game servers can remain online for a lot longer.

*EA will still probably use server shut downs to drive annual game sales though.


I thought EA games use their own servers and you have to sign into their service to play online? Or am I wrong about that?

Most companies use their own servers. One of the thing the cloud offers is for a more efficient\cheaper way for these companies to move it over to the cloud.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 1:07:32 PM   
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 There's a bit more Cloudage here and how it will be used on Forza 5:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/56323/turn-10-explains-forza-5s-xbox-one-cloud-processing-actual-file-transfers-are-small/

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 1:08:44 PM   
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Most companies use their own servers. One of the thing the cloud offers is for a more efficient\cheaper way for these companies to move it over to the cloud.


I get that, But what I was asking about was as you have to sign into Origin to play EA games online do they, in effect, run outside Xbox Live or PSN?

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 1:44:31 PM   
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 Those servers run outside of the Live or PSN network.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 4:46:08 PM   
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There is lots of things on the Xbox One I don't like.

There are lots of things on the PS4 I do like.

I still can't shake the fact though I think I want an Xbox One.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 6:26:31 PM   
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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 6:55:23 PM   
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There is lots of things on the Xbox One I don't like.

There are lots of things on the PS4 I do like.

I still can't shake the fact though I think I want an Xbox One.



Forza 5 is likely to be a bigger/better game than Driver Club.

Xbox One controller is very likely to be a better controller compared to the Ps4's.

Dead Rising 3

Project Spark

Titan Fall

The only PS4 pros are better gaming console, DRM isn't so bad and privacy isn't much of an issue. If the Xbox One had the same specs as the PS4 and focus on gaming then there is a good chance I would of get one instead.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm rather annoyed I have to switch side than happily jump to a different brand.

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RE: Xbox One - 18/6/2013 7:51:19 PM   
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I don't know about anyone else but I'm rather annoyed I have to switch side than happily jump to a different brand.


Why would you be annoyed at switching from Microsoft to Sony, if it's Sony that would currently meet your needs, why be annoyed if they are met, does it matter who meets them? If the system that meets your needs is Xbox One, then thats the one you choose, if it's PS4 you choose that one, surely that is how you would decide these things, rather than with any kind of brand loyalty in mind?

I'd say making a choice on either XB1 or PS4 just yet is a little premature (sure, pre-order one or the other, or both if you can cancel as and when required/wanted) and the launch exclusives will mean nothing a year or two down the line, and it will all depend how each starts to shape up their exclusives. Also, from a DRM perspective, I cant imagine Sony's will be that far from Microsofts, we just dont know the details yet. I am sure Xbox One will be a nifty bit of kit with some major plus points, but at the moment MS have simply fucked their launch with confusing statements and a lack of clarity on certain features and functionality (I still dont really know how the game sharing thing works, and I have no idea if DRM will mean an end to game trading or not, and I have no idea if the lack of internet connection will fully kill my gaming or if gaming would stop if i am using a different IP address etc). Sony just needed to keep quiet and mysterious on a bunch of things and they look like winners in comparison. I am sure that once more info is out, people can make a better decision about it, but saying your annoyed as your having to choose one brand over another seems a little premature. The front runner for me is PS4 as of now, but that could all change in a few months.

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