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It's good but it's bad - 1/1/2012 9:34:44 PM   
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A movie that you really love but know that it's really bad
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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 3:24:26 PM   
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quote:

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A movie that you really love but know that it's really bad


Aha, Guilty Pleasures.

Loads of overblown 80s and 90s stuff but Commando always appears around the top of the list. It's ridiculous, unintentionally hilarious cheese but by God it's fun. The Nostalgia Critic made a great review vid ages ago with the sign off summing it up perfectly IMO: "God bless you Commando you stupid, stupid movie."

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 3:29:56 PM   
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Whether it can be regraded as 'really, really bad' I'm not sure but I have a nostaglic and found love of
 
Biggles : Adventures in Time
 
For no reason whatsoever other than I love it,  there is no reason why I should I love it, but I do. It's got bad central performances, not entirely the best story, limited budget, it's a wee bit 'camp' but it has Peter Cushing's final screen performance so all is forgiven

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 5:56:03 PM   
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I think that the series that most fix in this post is the twilight saga, the movies are shit, the performances are shit there re really few things that we can get out of these series. But the truth is that many many people watchs this series and loves it, why that happens I don't know, if you can explain....

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 6:22:35 PM   
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For some reason I love Green Street.

It's awfully acted, atrociously directed and shockingly scripted.

Still entertains me whenever it's on.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 6:37:03 PM   
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um, pretty much every film i like

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 3/1/2012 9:56:57 PM   
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um, pretty much every film i like




I shall put forward the following: Batman and Robin, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Showgirls, Burlesque, Van Helsing, anything by Jess Franco and The Devils Sword (starring the awesome Barry Prima).


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RE: It's good but it's bad - 4/1/2012 12:04:22 AM   
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There's quite a number of existing threads which already cover this very topic; I won't be surprised if this one gets locked (pretty soon)...

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 4/1/2012 10:09:09 AM   
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Mean Girls :D Also easy on the eye :D

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 5/1/2012 9:31:21 AM   
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um, pretty much every film i like


We didn't want to say anything...

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 5/1/2012 10:50:51 AM   
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RE: It's good but it's bad - 5/1/2012 11:19:39 AM   
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RE: It's good but it's bad - 8/1/2012 12:29:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JIm R

Whether it can be regraded as 'really, really bad' I'm not sure but I have a nostaglic and found love of
 
Biggles : Adventures in Time
 
For no reason whatsoever other than I love it,  there is no reason why I should I love it, but I do. It's got bad central performances, not entirely the best story, limited budget, it's a wee bit 'camp' but it has Peter Cushing's final screen performance so all is forgiven


+1 on Commando... The 80's produced some of the greatest 'gulity pleasures' ever "stick around Bennett"

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 8/1/2012 1:27:53 PM   
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the scorpion king...

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 8/1/2012 10:03:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: filipe

I think that the series that most fix in this post is the twilight saga, the movies are shit, the performances are shit there re really few things that we can get out of these series. But the truth is that many many people watchs this series and loves it, why that happens I don't know, if you can explain....


Personally, I wouldn't count the Twilight films, simply because the majority of the people who love them don't actually believe they're bad films. So, as such, they don't count as a guilty pleasure.


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RE: It's good but it's bad - 8/1/2012 10:18:13 PM   
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Commando is a classic, what are you on about

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 9/1/2012 10:06:28 AM   
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fair enough

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 23/4/2012 11:52:53 PM   
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I wouldn't say it was "bad" (obviously), but I LOVE the '91 version of Father Of The Bride

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:00:23 AM   
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Dante's Peak apparently.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:09:30 AM   
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Mamma Mia.

Yeah, I said it.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:24:09 AM   
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Mamma Mia.

Yeah, I said it.


Isn't this considered incitement to hatred?

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 1:12:42 AM   
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For some reason UK TV broadcasters like to show it a lot, or at least they did and whenever it was on I would watch it. Which means I have seen it well over 15 times now. I know it's crap, I'm sure the people who made and star in it think it's crap. But I love it.

Troll 2, is also fantastic.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 10:32:43 AM   
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I never understand the concept of Guilty Pleasures. Why should you feel guilty about enjoying a film? Also, if you enjoy them, are they really bad?



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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 11:38:51 AM   
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I never understand the concept of Guilty Pleasures. Why should you feel guilty about enjoying a film? Also, if you enjoy them, are they really bad?




It's an excellent point. Really it doesn't matter what others think of your viewing preferences. If it works for you, then great.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 11:54:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut


quote:

ORIGINAL: MonsterCat

Mamma Mia.

Yeah, I said it.


Isn't this considered incitement to hatred?


It's incitement to violence certainly because since reading it I've had the urge to punch MC into a heaving bloody pulp...

All jokes aside though I don't subscribe to the guilty pleasure thing. I likes what I like and don't really give a flying one what anyone else thinks.

I would be embarassed if I liked Mamma Mia though, just sayin' .

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:05:15 PM   
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The Resident Evil films.

All of 'em.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:09:29 PM   
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I rate Paul WS Anderson as a writer and director - I don't even feel guilty about it.

The Resident Evil movies are brilliant entertainment, love 'em.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 12:15:46 PM   
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quote:

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It's incitement to violence certainly because since reading it I've had the urge to punch MC into a heaving bloody pulp...





It's a car crash of a film, but I like it. The textbook example of so bad it's entertaining.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 1:23:37 PM   
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The Resident Evil films.

All of 'em.


Yes I'm going Resident Evil here as well - even though I know they're basically rubbish (crap acting, appalling dialogue, plot holes you could drive a Mazda through), there's something weirdly compelling about them. I may even go to watch the 5th instalment at the cinema (having found all the others in the bargain bin at Asda at one time or another). I was contemplating buying an 'Umbrella Corporation' t-shirt off Nerdoh the other day but felt that was too flamboyant in my coming out of the closet of Resident Evil-love.

In fact Paul WS Anderson clearly is a master of this genre as Event Horizon also springs to mind under this sub-heading.

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RE: It's good but it's bad - 24/4/2012 1:28:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jcthefirst

The Resident Evil films.

All of 'em.


Yes I'm going Resident Evil here as well - even though I know they're basically rubbish (crap acting, appalling dialogue, plot holes you could drive a Mazda through), there's something weirdly compelling about them. I may even go to watch the 5th instalment at the cinema (having found all the others in the bargain bin at Asda at one time or another). I was contemplating buying an 'Umbrella Corporation' t-shirt off Nerdoh the other day but felt that was too flamboyant in my coming out of the closet of Resident Evil-love.

In fact Paul WS Anderson clearly is a master of this genre as Event Horizon also springs to mind under this sub-heading.


I too have never seen any of them in the cinema and don't intend to see the fifth there either.

I wrote this not so long ago:

My guilty pleasure film, or rather franchise, is Resident Evil and all its sequels. I’ve seen and enjoyed them all, even though deep down…actually not even that deep down, I know that they’re terrible. In fact, the second one (Apocalypse) is probably one of the worst films I’ve ever seen, and perhaps one of the worst films of all time, and films 3 and 4 (Afterlife and Extinction) are just about passable. Yet I love the series.



Here are some of the problems with the series:

- It’s not very scary, which you’d think would be a pre-requisite of a horror film.
- Most of the acting is…not great.
- Despite being an ongoing franchise there is no coherency between films, besides “ARGH! ZOMBIES!”
- There is nothing original in them at all.
- Every scare is telegraphed a mile away taking away any shock value.

I should point out at this juncture that I’m not a rabid fanboy of the Resident Evil game series; I’ve played them and liked them but, as you may have guessed, I don’t really care that the movies don’t follow the games at all, which is why it isn’t on my list of problems. In fact, I quite like that they’ve taken the basic premise of the series (the T-virus) and ran with it in a completely different way to the games. In the films, there are nods to the games, most notably by adding in the game series’ most memorable monsters, such as the lickers, the Nemesis and the Executioner, as well as having characters who have been in the games (Leon and Clare Kennedy, Jill Valentine) but these are just recognisable elements of the franchise as a whole and not really anything else, like George Lucas sticking Chewbacca in Sith even though it’s beyond pointless.

However, I can’t help but love them. Milla Jovovich is a fantastic action movie babe, and eminently watchable in each film, even though all she has to do is look good and shoot guns which to be fair she does with aplomb. The villains ham it up a lot, and are a lot of fun because of it, especially Afterlife’s Albert Wesker. The series always has awesome final shots (the standout being the end of the first film, which pulls back through an entire decimated cityscape). The action, for the most part, is really quite good, notably the shootout in the ruins of Las Vegas in Afterlife. There are some really cool little touches, the laser grid moment for instance in the first film. And in possibly the franchises greatest moment there’s a point in the first movie where the heroine, Alice, kicks a zombie dog in the face. It’s enjoyably batshit bonkers, and is the epitome of brainless cinema.




And I bloody love it for that.

But I feel so bloody bad for doing so.



In fact, I'm fairly certain that I have a copy of the first film in my collection. I've never seen any opf these films in the cinema, but you can bet that the second the forthcoming fifth film in the series comes out, I'll damn well wait for the DVD. I should feel ashamed.

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