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Theory on The Dark Knight Rises - 9/12/2011 8:53:57 AM   


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I think that this new film will explore deception, and how the truth no matter how painful is more important than a comforting lie. All of the surviving characters from the previous two films are wrestling with some kind of deception:

Alfred knows that Rachel did not love Bruce in the same way as he loved her, and that she wanted to start another life with Harvey. He kept this information from Bruce to protect his ward, but perhaps this is the reason why Bruce is so emotionally withdrawn: Bruce cannot move on until he understands that his relationship was not real. Is Alfred helping Bruce, or is he preventing him from moving on and growing? 

Like Bruce, Gordon is one of the few people that know the true depth of Dent's moral fall. In the first film, Gordon is called one of the few honest cops on the force, so this turn ignoring Dent's crimes and hunting his friend/ally for the sake of order and peace will lead Gordon to some form of existential despair and/or self-hatred. What happens when an honest man lives a lie for such a prolonged period? Is he still an honest man? Given that there has been no sign of Gordon's family in set photos or reports, perhaps his deception has come at a cost to his family (who experienced Dent's wrath and might not be happy in keeping quiet on his crimes).

Lucius knows Batman's true identity, and the depth of his willingness to protect Gotham. Lucius had broken his moral code in order to help the caped crusader in the last film. Will Bruce ask him to make a similar sacrifice in The Dark Knight Rises? If Bruce does, will Lucius finally leave Wayne Enterprises?

Finally, Bruce/Batman became a martyr in the last film. He was willing to destroy his own name in order to protect Gotham. However, he still has not grown into the man that his father was, and should be. Remember: in The Dark Knight, his entire motivation was to be with Rachel and live a normal life, and his failure to do so would likely create depression and regret, leading to dissatisfaction with all areas of his life. In the early stages of this new film, Bruce performs similar philanthropic endeavours as his father. Yet because Bruce is still in some form of arrested development as a result of the events of the last film I am certain that these actions may seem hollow and unfulfilling to Bruce. Bruce needs to come to terms with his relationship with Rachel, and cast aside the grief once and for all in order to become a complete man and hero. The last film ended with Gordon suggesting the importance of faith over truth, but maybe this new film will reverse that stance showing how a false faith can destroy lives.  

New Characters and How They Possibly Fit

From the pictures in Empire Magazine (as well as reports of the character as a terrorist/freedom fighter), Bane seems to be a truth-seeker. In the comics, Bane figures out Bruce's identity, whilst in this new film he seems to figure decipher the events of The Dark Knight, linking Harvey with his crimes. Reports suggest that Bruce and Bane seem to be mirror images of one another, and in this instance the contrast is clear: Bruce like Alfred hides the truth from others because he seeks to protect and comfort them, whilst Bane sees this as a hypocrisy and believes in the truth at all costs. This also differentiates Bane from previous villains in the series: Ra's used misdirection and distraction to help destroy corrupt cities, whilst The Joker placed individuals within nihilistic head-games. Bane's desire seems more straightforward: send Gotham into a frenzy and allow them to destroy themselves. This begs questions: what does Bane believe in? And are there anyways in which he is self-deceiving? Is he hypocritical?

  If Tate is who we all thinks she is, then it is clear that she will be also wrestling with deception. Her father had mixed feelings towards Bruce (paternal affection vs. antagonism), so it makes sense that she may face a similar emotional struggle between her true feelings and her differing ideology. She will provide a clear contrast with Selina: whilst Selina is on the surface prickly and antagonistic, she is essentially kind-hearted whilst Talia's benevolent exterior masks a hard and dark heart.

I suspect that Catwoman will present interesting reflections for Bruce, and that she will challenge him to grow and change into a mature and fulfilled man. Bane, too, will also force Bruce (and by extension - Gotham) to rise up and acknowledge its dark past in order to push ahead into the head. In contrast, I think Catwoman will also perform this function, but in a much more positive and affectionate manner. Ironically, this could be Bruce's deepest and most normalised romantic relationship (I also suspect that it will provide a contrast with Bane and Talia's more troubling relationship).

Not exactly sure how John Blake fits into this story. Could Blake be like a younger Gordon a young cop without all the baggage and compromises that comes with power and responsibility? Or is he also a villain, a sign that there are very few honest characters in this universe and that Bruce was astute in choosing Gordon as an ally?

But hey these are just guesses and I would like to know whether or not any of you agree with these suggestions and/or thoughts. 

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RE: Theory on The Dark Knight Rises - 9/12/2011 9:06:43 AM   

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Welcome to the site. We do already have a thread about the film - it'd be great if you could repost this there.


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