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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 29/8/2012 7:32:11 PM   
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Finished this the other day, getting a little bored of this now it seems to just drag on.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 29/8/2012 8:11:22 PM   
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Sadly it seems to have fallen into terminal crawl. I don't think it has had anything really good happening in the last 50 issues or so.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 29/8/2012 8:51:26 PM   
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Sadly it seems to have fallen into terminal crawl. I don't think it has had anything really good happening in the last 50 issues or so.


I'm still hoping Kirkman will just wipe the whole cast out and start over somewhere else, with a whole new bunch. Though I suspect he's too safe and repetitive a writer to do something like that, sadly. Even Adlard seems bored with all the talking heads.


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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 30/8/2012 7:37:34 AM   
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The Clone Saga. What a treat you are in for,


I actually liked it! (When I was 12) I'm just hoping it isn't something best left as a memory.....

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 30/8/2012 9:00:54 AM   
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The Clone Saga. What a treat you are in for,


I actually liked it! (When I was 12) I'm just hoping it isn't something best left as a memory.....


It starts off pretty well, if I recall. It's when The Jackal gets involved and there's like five hundred clones that things get ridiculous.

I remember years ago some insider at Marvel put up a sort of tell-all diary post about it and it was pretty hilarious reading. They wrote themselves into a corner and were ringing up all the writers in the company trying to get someone to figure a way out of it. They were under immense pressure to deliver the comics on time so month by month they were trying to solve some random problem and it just kept snowballing to the point where none of them actually knew what the hell was supposed to be happening whilst actually writing the scripts!

I also remember preferring Ben Reilly as Spider-Man. As with what happened in recent years with Batman and Bruce Wayne, I actually prefer my superheroes being less gloomy and depressive all the time. Dick Grayson was better at being Batman and Ben Reilly was better at being Spider-Man.

Did they ever bring Ben Reilly back? Maybe he's off in the wilderness with Mary Jane, eh?

EDIT: Ah, it was called the Life of Reilly and here it is! I remember reading it on some geocities-looking site back in the day. Pre-blogs, don't ya know.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 31/8/2012 5:52:17 PM   
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a mate at work lent it to me. I'm not far enough into it to form an opinion yet, it's interesting enough but I need read more!

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 31/8/2012 7:39:11 PM   
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The Clone Saga. What a treat you are in for,


I actually liked it! (When I was 12) I'm just hoping it isn't something best left as a memory.....


It starts off pretty well, if I recall. It's when The Jackal gets involved and there's like five hundred clones that things get ridiculous.

I remember years ago some insider at Marvel put up a sort of tell-all diary post about it and it was pretty hilarious reading. They wrote themselves into a corner and were ringing up all the writers in the company trying to get someone to figure a way out of it. They were under immense pressure to deliver the comics on time so month by month they were trying to solve some random problem and it just kept snowballing to the point where none of them actually knew what the hell was supposed to be happening whilst actually writing the scripts!

I also remember preferring Ben Reilly as Spider-Man. As with what happened in recent years with Batman and Bruce Wayne, I actually prefer my superheroes being less gloomy and depressive all the time. Dick Grayson was better at being Batman and Ben Reilly was better at being Spider-Man.

Did they ever bring Ben Reilly back? Maybe he's off in the wilderness with Mary Jane, eh?

EDIT: Ah, it was called the Life of Reilly and here it is! I remember reading it on some geocities-looking site back in the day. Pre-blogs, don't ya know.


It is pretty awful the manner they treated Ben Reilly as I too preferred him. There was a lot more to that character.

I know Kaine presently has an ongoing comic The Scarlet Spider.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 3/9/2012 7:45:00 AM   
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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 3/9/2012 10:34:53 AM   
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Just finished reading Smith's run on The Bionic Man not bad yet nothing special, though I did really enjoy the artwork.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 5/9/2012 2:08:25 PM   
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I'm halfway through reading Y The Last Man Book 1 (just started volume 2) and I have to say i'm really enjoying it! The artwork by Pia Guerra is exceptional : I read a lot of review saying how it isn't that good, but I say bollocks to all that - its very good in my estimation. Suits the story very well, its quite pop arty - in total contrast to the sometimes very grim storyline - but it works.

The Amazon's are fucking scary! I'd hate to come across one!

Prior to starting Y, I finished reading Ennis' Just A Pilgrim. It isn't vintage Ennis, but nonetheless enjoyable '- and funny as hell. The thing that really jarred for me was the main character's change of heart toward the end; he's a bible-bashing man of god. An ex-military, ex- cannibal ex- convict (yes you heard me right!). The premise is quite cool: earth ravaged by 'the burn': a post-apocalyptic hell hole where the sea has dried up thanks to the sun expanding. And we have a Mad Max style plain of arid desert and warring psycho's.

Ennis' strong anti-Christian views got a little tedious at times. If done right it can be quite effective, but here it feel's preachy at times. And the ending made me laugh and not in a good way. It's still an enjoyable, funny romp but the weakest work by Ennis i've read up until now.

I also finished Fun Home. I did......enjoy it, the artwork is brilliant, but the storyline started getting very boring for me about 2/3 of the way through. I'll eloborate a bit more on it later on.



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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 5/9/2012 6:23:51 PM   
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i've got about half of the issue left - my lunch hour ended :(

absolutely loving this series. Oceans Eleven with super villains. The corridor scene with the brothers had me in stitches.

Really can't fault this series at all, it's fun, witty, violent with some very likeable characters from the very start. Recommended.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 8:29:22 AM   
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i've got about half of the issue left - my lunch hour ended :(

absolutely loving this series. Oceans Eleven with super villains. The corridor scene with the brothers had me in stitches.

Really can't fault this series at all, it's fun, witty, violent with some very likeable characters from the very start. Recommended.


This looks very interesting! I know Millar isn't exactly everyones cup of tea but i've really enjoyed his works over the years. I love Leinil Yu's artwork too so i'll definitely check this out!

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 11:14:50 AM   
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I'm halfway through reading Y The Last Man Book 1 (just started volume 2) and I have to say i'm really enjoying it! The artwork by Pia Guerra is exceptional : I read a lot of review saying how it isn't that good, but I say bollocks to all that - its very good in my estimation. Suits the story very well, its quite pop arty - in total contrast to the sometimes very grim storyline - but it works.

The Amazon's are fucking scary! I'd hate to come across one!



Yeah, I loved the Guerra artwork and don't understand the negative reviews.  Y The Last Man is one of the best ongoing titles of recent years IMO.  As far as I know, there is still a movie in development (that is likely to be the first of three), and I've heard Shia LaBoeuf's name being flagged up to play Yorick, with Alicia Keys as 355.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 11:29:09 AM   
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I'm halfway through reading Y The Last Man Book 1 (just started volume 2) and I have to say i'm really enjoying it! The artwork by Pia Guerra is exceptional : I read a lot of review saying how it isn't that good, but I say bollocks to all that - its very good in my estimation. Suits the story very well, its quite pop arty - in total contrast to the sometimes very grim storyline - but it works.

The Amazon's are fucking scary! I'd hate to come across one!



Yeah, I loved the Guerra artwork and don't understand the negative reviews.  Y The Last Man is one of the best ongoing titles of recent years IMO.  As far as I know, there is still a movie in development (that is likely to be the first of three), and I've heard Shia LaBoeuf's name being flagged up to play Yorick, with Alicia Keys as 355.


I've only read volume 1 and really enjoyed it but a few bits annoyed me. The constant movie references got a bit much at times, yes ok you like cool movies. The bit at the start where Hero puts the gun to her head saying "All the men are dead" was a bit too far. Yes her boyfriend died in front of her but how could she possibly know all the men are dead, it happened like 10 seconds ago and you want to kill yourself straight away? Ummm ok. Also, when they said that the word "cunt" wasn't derogatory in the UK. Errr what? Ok I don't live in the UK but I'm pretty sure it's derogatory.

I sound like I don't like it, I did enjoy it quite a bit and I have volume 2 and 3 waiting to be read. I'm just getting through some Sandman at the moment.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 11:37:35 AM   
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quote:

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I'm halfway through reading Y The Last Man Book 1 (just started volume 2) and I have to say i'm really enjoying it! The artwork by Pia Guerra is exceptional : I read a lot of review saying how it isn't that good, but I say bollocks to all that - its very good in my estimation. Suits the story very well, its quite pop arty - in total contrast to the sometimes very grim storyline - but it works.

The Amazon's are fucking scary! I'd hate to come across one!



Yeah, I loved the Guerra artwork and don't understand the negative reviews.  Y The Last Man is one of the best ongoing titles of recent years IMO.  As far as I know, there is still a movie in development (that is likely to be the first of three), and I've heard Shia LaBoeuf's name being flagged up to play Yorick, with Alicia Keys as 355.


I've only read volume 1 and really enjoyed it but a few bits annoyed me. The constant movie references got a bit much at times, yes ok you like cool movies. The bit at the start where Hero puts the gun to her head saying "All the men are dead" was a bit too far. Yes her boyfriend died in front of her but how could she possibly know all the men are dead, it happened like 10 seconds ago and you want to kill yourself straight away? Ummm ok. Also, when they said that the word "cunt" wasn't derogatory in the UK. Errr what? Ok I don't live in the UK but I'm pretty sure it's derogatory.

I sound like I don't like it, I did enjoy it quite a bit and I have volume 2 and 3 waiting to be read. I'm just getting through some Sandman at the moment.


To be fair it doesn't carry a fraction of the weight here that it does in the States. It's colloquially used like punctuation round my way, in place of a full stop pretty much .

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 12:08:08 PM   
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Let's do an experiment. Go up the town and call the next 10 people you see a cunt and see what reaction you get.

EDIT: Judging from this line from that urban dictionary link you posted elsewhere you're more likely to get a hug. "Cofi's use the word "cont" as an affectionate term to their friends and loved ones (as well as their enemies)."

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 1:05:12 PM   
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quote:

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I'm halfway through reading Y The Last Man Book 1 (just started volume 2) and I have to say i'm really enjoying it! The artwork by Pia Guerra is exceptional : I read a lot of review saying how it isn't that good, but I say bollocks to all that - its very good in my estimation. Suits the story very well, its quite pop arty - in total contrast to the sometimes very grim storyline - but it works.

The Amazon's are fucking scary! I'd hate to come across one!



Yeah, I loved the Guerra artwork and don't understand the negative reviews.  Y The Last Man is one of the best ongoing titles of recent years IMO.  As far as I know, there is still a movie in development (that is likely to be the first of three), and I've heard Shia LaBoeuf's name being flagged up to play Yorick, with Alicia Keys as 355.


I also read that Shia is being lined up for the role of Yorick...a prospect I am absolutely dreading! but I also read that apparently he turned it down because he felt Yorick was to close to his previous role of Sam Witwicky in Transormers! Yeah right - Yorick is a lot more likeable than Witdicky thank you very much!

As for Alicia Keys as agent 355; my only question is - can she act? I haven't seen any of her previous films so don't know what she's like behind the camera. First of all she'll need a haircut though.

I've read Y book one and I have to say i've fallen head over heels in love with the whole premise/writing/ artwork/ character's, and would hate to see a shitty adaption by anyone. I read Vaughan wrote his recent comic Saga in a way that would be hard to adapt by Hollywood, maybe he too was filled with dread when he realised what Hollywood had in store for Y (judging by what we know).



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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 1:26:38 PM   
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I still think Zachary Levi would be great for Yorick.

And tal, my memory's a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hero that wanted to kill herself. It was some police officer, who did actually kill herself.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 1:35:30 PM   
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I still think Zachary Levi would be great for Yorick.

And tal, my memory's a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hero that wanted to kill herself. It was some police officer, who did actually kill herself.


That was my feeling too, she did look a bit like Hero but I thought she was someone else. I'm just going to have a look through my copy and get back.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 1:46:36 PM   
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Let's do an experiment. Go up the town and call the next 10 people you see a cunt and see what reaction you get.

EDIT: Judging from this line from that urban dictionary link you posted elsewhere you're more likely to get a hug. "Cofi's use the word "cont" as an affectionate term to their friends and loved ones (as well as their enemies)."


Indeed, it's a term of endearment round here .

I'm not even joking, I can't remember at what point it entered the lexicon but it creeped in and now, like I said above, it's basically used as a full stop to end each sentence.*

* - Not everyone talks like that by the way, it's not even a significant proportion, just us common council types. I still find myself slipping it into sentences now and again depending on who I'm talking to. It took me ages to get out of the habit.

So yeah, comics. I've read more stuff I like off Millar than I dislike but the bad stuff is fucking horrendous (yes, I'm still banging on about The Ultimates).

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 1:53:51 PM   
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I still think Zachary Levi would be great for Yorick.

And tal, my memory's a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hero that wanted to kill herself. It was some police officer, who did actually kill herself.


Ah you may be right. I think Yorick mentioned something about her new boyfriend being dead and I don't know why I made that link in my head. Still a little excessive to assume all men are dead and kill yourself anyway, whoever she is.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 2:01:40 PM   
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Let's do an experiment. Go up the town and call the next 10 people you see a cunt and see what reaction you get.

EDIT: Judging from this line from that urban dictionary link you posted elsewhere you're more likely to get a hug. "Cofi's use the word "cont" as an affectionate term to their friends and loved ones (as well as their enemies)."


Indeed, it's a term of endearment round here .

I'm not even joking, I can't remember at what point it entered the lexicon but it creeped in and now, like I said above, it's basically used as a full stop to end each sentence.*

* - Not everyone talks like that by the way, it's not even a significant proportion, just us common council types. I still find myself slipping it into sentences now and again depending on who I'm talking to. It took me ages to get out of the habit.

So yeah, comics. I've read more stuff I like off Millar than I dislike but the bad stuff is fucking horrendous (yes, I'm still banging on about The Ultimates).

Yeah, like I'd call a friend a cunt in private or if I banged my toe on a table leg I'd call it a cunt but I think most people would find it a bit shocking to hear. If I saw Mrs. Brady up the town I wouldn't call her a cunt even though she did shout "Queer" at me out of her living room window.

Anyway, enough cunt talk. Still reading Sandman.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 2:47:41 PM   
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I still think Zachary Levi would be great for Yorick.

And tal, my memory's a little fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Hero that wanted to kill herself. It was some police officer, who did actually kill herself.


Ah you may be right. I think Yorick mentioned something about her new boyfriend being dead and I don't know why I made that link in my head. Still a little excessive to assume all men are dead and kill yourself anyway, whoever she is.


Yep, you're right JC, the (suicidal) woman in the first page is not Hero. Hero has a different uniform altogether, (she's wearing a white one with different badge, whilst the other woman is wearing blue and is a police-woman).

I can understand how we could get it wrong though - seeing as the both of them look alike!

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 5:02:29 PM   
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I think I might start reading Y all over again. Great series.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 6/9/2012 5:54:56 PM   
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i've got about half of the issue left - my lunch hour ended :(

absolutely loving this series. Oceans Eleven with super villains. The corridor scene with the brothers had me in stitches.

Really can't fault this series at all, it's fun, witty, violent with some very likeable characters from the very start. Recommended.


This looks very interesting! I know Millar isn't exactly everyones cup of tea but i've really enjoyed his works over the years. I love Leinil Yu's artwork too so i'll definitely check this out!


Finished reading it today - it's a nice little self contained tale within four issues. Wrapped up nicely, would really recommend it

As for after that, I read the following:



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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 9/9/2012 8:46:06 PM   
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As well as reading PROPHET, (i'm up to #4 now) i've also been kept busy by the following;

BONE VOL 3
DAREDEVIL: LADY BULLSEYE
NEW BRIGHTON ARCHEOLOGICAL SOCIETY

I'm really enjoying bone, its been described as 'Disney meets Lord of the Rings' and it isn't hard to see why. Its not helping that I didnt read the first two volumes. I think I might invest in the giant 1300 page 'one volume' sometime in the future so I can read it start to finish. But its really enjoyable, and funny to boot. The artwork by Jeff Smith is superb. (this is the coloured version).

Lady Bullseye was another enjoyable comic. Again it would've helped if I read prior instalments, and once I go through Miller's remaining Daredevil stories, I might just start on Bendis' run from the begining. The artwork is very reminiscent of Gotham Central.

A real gem which i'm also reading now is the New Brighton Archeological Society! Its a really charming story about a group of kids who go out looking for adventure and stumble upon a goblin and fairy war! I love the concept that the goblins are the good guys, and the fairies are the baddies. Although it has been alluded to that they were once good too but had been corrupted. Its a really nice read, reminded me of all the fantasy and adventure film's I watched (and read about) growing up.






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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 10/9/2012 11:40:25 AM   
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About half way through this. The story is alrightish but Quitely's artwork is fucking horrific. I don't mind his work on Batman & Robin but everything here just looks wrong. Everyone's legs are like twice the length of their torso's, every character has the same chin, Wolverine looks ridiculous and don't even get me started on the costumes. Quitely's style just doesn't suit the X-Men at all and as a result this is probably one of the worst drawn books I've read.



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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 10/9/2012 5:45:55 PM   
Harry Tuttle


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Just finished the above. The story went downhill pretty sharpish and the Artwork stayed the same. Everything felt far too rushed, 4 issues is nowhere near enough time to try to redefine the status quo as Morrison attempted. A very disappointing read overall.

Avengers Disassembled next, I have high hopes for that.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 10/9/2012 5:45:59 PM   
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Another lend from my mate at work - again, brilliant stuff. Made my lunch hour something to look forward to.

Along with Super Crooks these are excellent works imo. I did prefer Super Crooks but this series had some really heart wrenching moments and had a powerful message for the reader.

I think I need to read Nemesis.

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RE: What comic book are you reading right now? - 11/9/2012 9:31:48 AM   
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I read most of Mondo last night. What an absolutely bat shit crazy read. In a good way.

I've had the Blackest Night lot to read for a while now but was put off due to not being familiar enough with Green Lantern. Having rectified that I'm going to give it a blast (although it's tough to read it chronologically in the collected format). Not really sure what to expect, the last DC crossover I read was Infinite Crisis and I thought that was an incomprehensible mess (not being very familiar with the DCU probably didn't help).

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