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Hall of Fame 13: Round 1


The Penalty (Worsley, 1920)
  9% (3)
The Music Box (Parrot, 1932)
  6% (2)
An American in Paris (Minnelli, 1951)
  0% (0)
Bonnie and Clyde (Penn, 1967)
  9% (3)
Marketa Lazarova (Vlacil, 1967)
  3% (1)
The Last Picture Show (Bogdanovich, 1971)
  12% (4)
Requiem for a Village (Gladwell, 1975)
  3% (1)
Wise Blood (Huston, 1979)
  3% (1)
Das Boot (Peterson, 1981)
  25% (8)
Underground (Kusturica, 1995)
  0% (0)
The Room (Wiseau, 2003)
  3% (1)
Downfall (Hirschbiegel, 2004)
  12% (4)
United 93 (Greengrass, 2006)
  12% (4)


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 2:03:52 PM   
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I'd go with Underworld. (Criterion I know, but I've just found it on youtube as well).



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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 2:06:15 PM   
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Does this outpouring of love for silent movies and HoF long film nominations mean that I can happily stick in Gance's Napoleon next round


I'll put forward Dr. Mabuse the Gambler.



I thought it had already been in. But I can only find Dr Strangelove and a Dr Mullholland

I've got it at home. Never seen it though :-(

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 2:12:08 PM   
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I'd go with Underworld. (Criterion I know, but I've just found it on youtube as well).




It would be worth it though, it's a lovely Collection.


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 2:13:20 PM   
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I'd go with Underworld. (Criterion I know, but I've just found it on youtube as well).




It would be worth it though, it's a lovely Collection.



With the gorgeous plus of Docks of New York (which was quite high in my visuals list).


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 8:04:22 PM   
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 I'm about half way through The Room. It is un-fucking-believable.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 8:50:23 PM   
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Das Boot-It was pretty good, with one of the cruellest endings I've ever seen. The only flaw I can think of is that even for a 3 1/2 hour long film, I felt there were gaps in the relationship of some characters, like when the lieutenant promises to deliver some letters for a random bloke I didn't recognise at all. Also, the majority of the crew on the boat were just that, and never really became characters. I think there's a 5 hour cut, and that sounds like a version I'd like to check out, it'd probably improve the film for me. Still, if my main complaint about a film is that I want more of it, that's a mark of a good film.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 9:15:42 PM   
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 Just finished The Room.

That was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had watching a film. Not even entertainingly bad in a Plan 9 From Outer Space kinda way.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 9:20:55 PM   
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Just finished The Room.

That was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had watching a film. Not even entertainingly bad in a Plan 9 From Outer Space kinda way.


I'm leaving it until last, it really is utter shit.


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 9:25:39 PM   
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Don't watch it alone! Get a buddy to watch it with you. I am not saying it shouldn't be your last place film, but at least try to get some enjoyment out of it.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 1/11/2011 9:28:50 PM   
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I've seen it before and I have no desire at all to watch it again. 

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 12:00:56 AM   
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Does this outpouring of love for silent movies and HoF long film nominations mean that I can happily stick in Gance's Napoleon next round


I have been hoping for a R2 of La Roue for at least a year now so that I can enter it. Would you really want to nominate Napoleon at the moment while it looks like there could be a restored print with new score coming soon?


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 1:58:58 AM   
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 You'll all still ironically put The Room at the top of your lists though right? RIGHT?

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 8:27:16 AM   
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You'll all still ironically put The Room at the top of your lists though right? RIGHT?




I wanted to like it but it was just so boring and bad. In fact, it was offensively bad. There were moments in that film that were almost unconscionable.

Sorry, Paul.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 8:59:45 AM   
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 Yeah, as entertaining as Wiseau's performane is, it is just a terrible, terrible, terrible film. Even ironically I can't love it.

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Das Boot-It was pretty good, with one of the cruellest endings I've ever seen. The only flaw I can think of is that even for a 3 1/2 hour long film, I felt there were gaps in the relationship of some characters, like when the lieutenant promises to deliver some letters for a random bloke I didn't recognise at all. Also, the majority of the crew on the boat were just that, and never really became characters. I think there's a 5 hour cut, and that sounds like a version I'd like to check out, it'd probably improve the film for me. Still, if my main complaint about a film is that I want more of it, that's a mark of a good film.


Yeah, I would generally err on the side of watching the longest version you possibly can. Although considering the length of some of the other films in this round, I can understand why that's a bit daunting!


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 2:05:12 PM   
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 Just make sure to watch Underground, it is incredible. 

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 2:34:55 PM   
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POTENTIAL SPOILERS

Bonnie and Clyde-Picks up after a terrible first ten minutes that ask us to accept that Bonnie goes from "Who are you you mental bastard" to "Have my babies you wonderful man" like the flick of a switch. The arrival of Gene Hackman makes the film infinitely better, and the film suffers when he exits. It's a very good film, but that might not be enough considering how strong this round has been so far.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 7:33:50 PM   
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The Penalty - Awesome. I am really glad I am participating in the round, because if I wasn't I probably would never have seen this beauty. Lon Chaney is Satan, and I mean that in the best possible way.

The Music Box - I'm not much of a Laurel & Hardy fan, but this had a couple of laughs, but not really HOF worthy.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 7:47:29 PM   
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The Penalty - Awesome. I am really glad I am participating in the round, because if I wasn't I probably would never have seen this beauty. Lon Chaney is Satan, and I mean that in the best possible way.


So pleased people are enjoying Chaney. Really couldn't care less if The Penalty wins, loses or draws now that I've managed to draw attention to his phenomenal on-screen presence to some new viewers. Having said that, there are some great films in this round, but I truly believe that the HoF wouldn't be complete without one of the very best actors ever to have gone before a camera.

The Room. Ummm my granny once said if you've got nothing good to say, don't say anything at all so I best not say any more. I watched it because it is nominated, if it hadn't have been it would have been turned off within a minute. I don't think I'll be getting that hour and a half of my life back

Higher hopes for The Last Picture Show, because I've just turned off the football to give it a first, and it feels very long overdue, viewing. Half an hour in and I've realised that the broken American Dream (The Grapes of Wrath, The Hustler, Sweet Smell of Success and maybe even something like Asphalt Jungle) is one of my favourite themes. Is TLPS the best of these so far? I don't think so. Is it a hypnotically beautiful film and well deserving of a nomination? Definitely.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 8:39:44 PM   
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 watching The Room on your own = you're doing it wrong.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 8:48:07 PM   
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 I think it was already 1 viewer already. Sorry if I don't get it, but its tosh. And it might be mildly amusing if you've had a few and it just comes on TV and you are laughing at it with a few friends, but I suspect even that appeal is less than 5 minutes.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 2/11/2011 10:53:31 PM   
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Higher hopes for The Last Picture Show, because I've just turned off the football to give it a first, and it feels very long overdue, viewing. Half an hour in and I've realised that the broken American Dream (The Grapes of Wrath, The Hustler, Sweet Smell of Success and maybe even something like Asphalt Jungle) is one of my favourite themes. Is TLPS the best of these so far? I don't think so. Is it a hypnotically beautiful film and well deserving of a nomination? Definitely.


Its a theme I am very much a fan of as well Did it pick up a little by the end for you?

I havent watched your nom yet, but you can add me to the people who are really happy to see it in there. I watched He Who Gets Slapped last year, and even though it doesnt sound like one of his most gruelling characters, it was still amazing to see how much he put into it. So I had been wanting to see some of his other roles.


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 5:08:05 AM   
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 Just wondering about Das Boot, is there any particular cut we're all going for? It might be unfair if we all voted based on different versions.



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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 7:40:00 AM   
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I don't know about everybody else, but I am going to be watching the TV series version. I like watching the versions with the most possible content.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 7:40:35 AM   
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Higher hopes for The Last Picture Show, because I've just turned off the football to give it a first, and it feels very long overdue, viewing. Half an hour in and I've realised that the broken American Dream (The Grapes of Wrath, The Hustler, Sweet Smell of Success and maybe even something like Asphalt Jungle) is one of my favourite themes. Is TLPS the best of these so far? I don't think so. Is it a hypnotically beautiful film and well deserving of a nomination? Definitely.


Its a theme I am very much a fan of as well Did it pick up a little by the end for you?

I havent watched your nom yet, but you can add me to the people who are really happy to see it in there. I watched He Who Gets Slapped last year, and even though it doesnt sound like one of his most gruelling characters, it was still amazing to see how much he put into it. So I had been wanting to see some of his other roles.


I don't think it needed to pick up. Its a fine film. I'm only 3 (well I guess 4 if I include my own nomination) films into this round, but I'd be relatively confident that TLPS will make my top 6. So, you know I'm judging it against the films in this round, but I'm afraid that the films I've picked out above are among my favourites and I'd rate them above TLPS. Not least because I think the performances of Henry Fonda, George C. Scott and Burt Lancaster are among my favourites on film. But that doesn't mean I didn't rate TLPS or think it a worthy nomination.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 8:30:25 AM   
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I don't know about everybody else, but I am going to be watching the TV series version. I like watching the versions with the most possible content.


Same here. But if someone watches the two and half hour cut, it's not really fair when others watch one almost twice as long. Then again, those who don't fancy a gargantuan watch might fancy the shorter one, so the long version suffers.

Put it this way, when I nominate a LOTR film I'm stating it's the extended cut

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 9:03:57 AM   
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 I think it's preferable if people do watch the longest cut they can, but understand if that's simply too much and they have to make do with the director's cut - which to be fair is still over three hours long.

Having said that, if people put aside a week to watch Satantango in a previous round they can damn well do the same for this.


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 9:58:51 AM   
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I watched the Director's Cut, but only because it was the version I already had. Once I've watched the other films in the round I'll seek out the TV series version.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 10:14:15 AM   
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 Sitting here with a slight headache, I was wondering which of these films I should watch to start off my HOF viewing. The Last Picture Show's just arrived, but it's not a favourite so I'll leave that for now. I have Downfall and Das Boot, but I won't have the chance to finish either in one sitting if I start them now. I need to search for my copies of Wise Blood and An American In Paris, and can't be bothered to do so. The obvious choice would be The Music Box. Short and sweet, but I know it by heart, maybe something new. So I'm left with the films that are youtube. The Penalty and The Room. The Room it is. And after 5.41, my mild headache is now pounding like crazy and I need to go and lie down. Can I send Paul the bill for the aspirin?


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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 11:47:22 AM   
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 I've simply decided to watch them in the order they appear in the Poll.

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RE: Hall of Fame 13: Round 1 - 3/11/2011 11:49:58 AM   
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Paul will be lucky to get out of this HoF alive. And he'll deserve every pitchfork prod too!


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