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I want Die Hard to take place in a building, not some generic action with Bruce Willis running around L.A.

We've already had Die Hard in a building.Just stay at home and watch the original if that's what you want.

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze
Mattyb is a shining example of what the perfect Empire Forum member is.

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

A back to basics approach in a more small contained environment could work but i think its only natural that the scale of each Die Hard gets bigger in each instalment.Setting it in a different country is a smart move as Mclane has done enough in the states and maybe he saves the world in this one by stopping the baddies launching a nuke who knows?

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ORIGINAL: porntrooper

Really dissapointed in the trailer. If it was anything other than Die Hard, I'd probably look at it and say 'Yea, that doesn't look too bad for a mid budget action flick'. But this is Die Hard, and no matter what anyone says it will always be compared to the great original. Die Hard 2 took the original formula and made it bigger but not too big as to feel OTT, it was a nice natural progression and although the film itself isn't as good, it retained the feel of Die Hard and still had plenty for me to enjoy. With A Vengeance also felt like a natural progression and it was only natural to take McClane out of those confined spaces, but it still kept him as a prisoner of sorts and the bad guys were always a step ahead, with McClane playing catch up to a certain degree. He never felt like a superhero cop saving the world in the first three, he was always the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time and he was always pushing himself through tortuous situations to beat the bad guys, he is at his best when completely beaten to a pulp but with enough fight to win out in the end. The first three had that aspect of the character all the way, but lets not pretend they didnt have the outlandish big stunts that became more prevalent in Die Hard 4. I mean, the rooftop jump, the crashing exploding helicopters and the air con climbing in the first, the plance crash, Annex Skywalk shootout and jetski sequence in the second and the bridge jump, boat explosion and subway crash in part three could all be consider larger than life action stsunt sequences. For me Die Hard 4 didnt go too big in terms of the stunts and action, just in the scope of the plot and the stakes. Having McClane be the one man that can save America felt too big. The threats in the first three were relatively small, with two being heists and the other essentially a prison break. Die Hard 4 shouldn't have taken it up that notch that meant millions of people were in danger, it needed to be a more contained threat, not necessarily a more contained environment. I really would've loved to see Die Hard 4 or 5 take its cue from one of the Die Hard games and have McClane a borderline alcholic gambling away in Vegas before getting caught up in a casino heist of some sort. That couldve been really good in the right hands. No matter what I'm sure Willis will make the most of it, as he did with Die Hard 4 (there were some really great McClane moments in it - the fight in the truck and getting his ass kicked by Olyphant's missus) but it all feels too big. Ah well.

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

I dont get these negative comments about Willis not looking and acting like Mclane in DH4.He was cranky,spouting wisecracks,talking to himself and killing terrorists.He was even played by Bruce Willis and everything!

Is it because he had gotten bald since Die Hard 3?

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I dont get these negative comments about Willis not looking and acting like Mclane in DH4.He was cranky,spouting wisecracks,talking to himself and killing terrorists.He was even played by Bruce Willis and everything!

Is it because he had gotten bald since Die Hard 3?

I just didn't think he was reluctant enough. I think it was more down to the story and the script; there's a point where he tells Justin Long that if there were someone else to do it he'd let them, but it's hard to believe that that's the case when there are no real constraints on the agencies and police. Like the the first three you knew that John was forced into doing all that shit, in 1 there literally no one else, in 2 no one believed him and then when they did the people who helped were either incompetent or working with the baddies, in 3 Gruber forced him into doing it all for revenge ... but in 4, it's just not believable that there's no one else who could help out, it was only computers that were down communications were fine so how come the FBI or army couldn't take over? I just felt that were was no justification for the world relying on John to save it's ass.

You could argue that from his previous experiences that the officials can't be trusted and he's better off doing it himself especially when his daughter's caught up in it all, but I just don't think the set up for the situation was done well enough and that does come down to the writing. For Die Hard to work John McClane has to have no other choice but get involved and I, personally, just didn't get that from 4. You're right to say that you can't really blame Willis though.

All that said I really enjoyed 4, I would say it's a 4 star action film but because the previous instalments set such a high standard (particularly 2 and 3) and because of the above issues it's only a 3 star Die Hard film ... in my book

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I dont get these negative comments about Willis not looking and acting like Mclane in DH4.He was cranky,spouting wisecracks,talking to himself and killing terrorists.He was even played by Bruce Willis and everything!

Is it because he had gotten bald since Die Hard 3?

I just didn't think he was reluctant enough. I think it was more down to the story and the script; there's a point where he tells Justin Long that if there were someone else to do it he'd let them, but it's hard to believe that that's the case when there are no real constraints on the agencies and police. Like the the first three you knew that John was forced into doing all that shit, in 1 there literally no one else, in 2 no one believed him and then when they did the people who helped were either incompetent or working with the baddies, in 3 Gruber forced him into doing it all for revenge ... but in 4, it's just not believable that there's no one else who could help out, it was only computers that were down communications were fine so how come the FBI or army couldn't take over? I just felt that were was no justification for the world relying on John to save it's ass.

You could argue that from his previous experiences that the officials can't be trusted and he's better off doing it himself especially when his daughter's caught up in it all, but I just don't think the set up for the situation was done well enough and that does come down to the writing. For Die Hard to work John McClane has to have no other choice but get involved and I, personally, just didn't get that from 4. You're right to say that you can't really blame Willis though.

All that said I really enjoyed 4, I would say it's a 4 star action film but because the previous instalments set such a high standard (particularly 2 and 3) and because of the above issues it's only a 3 star Die Hard film ... in my book

I actually found DH3 disappointing and easily the weakest of the series.The action just wasnt good enough and there wasnt enough decent shoot outs and fights.It was just a series of bombs going off/to defuse and a lot of driving around.

DH4 had that awesome shoot out in the apartment at the start and Mclane vs Maggie Q was pretty hardcore as well.I get what youre saying about Mclane being reluctant but i thought he was as world weary as ever and despite what he says,he cant help being a good cop and doing the right thing.I just love how he loses his temper in the tunnel and fuck it,decides to torpedo that helicopter with his car!

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there has not been a bad DH movie so far but the original with its unique premise has yet to be surpassed.

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Just so surprised it's got a February opening???

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Just so surprised it's got a February opening???

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ORIGINAL: manwihtheplan

This film should be called

Die Hardest

So obvious, don'tcha think?