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A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 12/10/2011 7:55:55 PM   
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...is the title for the new Die Hard movie.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 12/10/2011 7:56:49 PM   
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 I fucking hope not.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 13/10/2011 7:50:33 PM   
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I'll live with that title if they promise to fire John Moore. What on earth were they thinking hiring him in the first place? There's a huge list of hack directors to choose from - pick one of the better ones.


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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 13/10/2011 10:51:00 PM   
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 The American title for the last one was Live Free or Die Hard, which is the motto of one of the states I think. I liked it over the 4.0 title.

Not sure I like this one, though. It sounds like a Bond film reject....

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 13/10/2011 11:05:05 PM   
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The final nail in the Die Hard coffin was put in when Kevin Smith appeared.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 13/10/2011 11:06:15 PM   
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The American title for the last one was Live Free or Die Hard, which is the motto of one of the states I think. I liked it over the 4.0 title.





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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 3:09:50 AM   
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I'll live with that title if they promise to fire John Moore. What on earth were they thinking hiring him in the first place? There's a huge list of hack directors to choose from - pick one of the better ones.




This ^

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 3:56:46 AM   
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The American title for the last one was Live Free or Die Hard, which is the motto of one of the states I think. I liked it over the 4.0 title.

Not sure I like this one, though. It sounds like a Bond film reject....


Or a Star Trek crossover.


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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:14:29 AM   
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 My mates and I were discussing this last night, and trying to come up with better titles.

We settled on...Die Hard as Fuck.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:16:26 AM   
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 Die Hard, Motherfucker!

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:45:17 AM   
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Die Hard: Like Father LIke Son.


Really wish they would go back to the plot line of the first two movie and where it was just John McClane on his own taking on the baddies. The Die Hard films are fast becoming a family Reunion first his daughter now his son.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 10:15:02 AM   
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The American title for the last one was Live Free or Die Hard, which is the motto of one of the states I think. I liked it over the 4.0 title.

Not sure I like this one, though. It sounds like a Bond film reject....


Or a Star Trek crossover.



make it so.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 10:22:06 AM   
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I didn't have an issue with Die Hard 4. It wasn't as good as the first three but it was still an enjoyable action flick. Die Hard is a big deal for Willis. I don't think he'd make one of these half arsed. I reckon the new one will be good.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 12:55:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: The REAL Bozz

I didn't have an issue with Die Hard 4. It wasn't as good as the first three but it was still an enjoyable action flick. Die Hard is a big deal for Willis. I don't think he'd make one of these half arsed. I reckon the new one will be good.


Neither do I but he chose a writer with Wolverine on his CV and a director who nobody seems to like and everyone would agree is a hack. And the story, taking McClane global is all wrong....the only way that this entry could keep the Die Hard spirit (3 and especially 4 were pushing it....) is setting it on the plane taking him to Russia but terrorists on a plane is hardly a fresh idea is it?

I liked the idea of McClane in Vegas that got mentioned in the 'Alternate Universe Movies' thread, that was a damn cool idea for a Die Hard film.

Also I've said it before but it should be called Die Hard 5: Die Hardest

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 12:56:00 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: The REAL Bozz

I didn't have an issue with Die Hard 4. It wasn't as good as the first three but it was still an enjoyable action flick. Die Hard is a big deal for Willis. I don't think he'd make one of these half arsed. I reckon the new one will be good.


Neither do I but he chose a writer with Wolverine on his CV and a director who nobody seems to like and everyone would agree is a hack. And the story, taking McClane global is all wrong....the only way that this entry could keep the Die Hard spirit (3 and especially 4 were pushing it....) is setting it on the plane taking him to Russia but terrorists on a plane is hardly a fresh idea is it?

I liked the idea of McClane in Vegas that got mentioned in the 'Alternate Universe Movies' thread, that was a damn cool idea for a Die Hard film.

Also I've said it before but it should be called Die Hard 5: Die Hardest


Die Hard Trilogy 2 for the PlayStation was set in Vegas. And it was pretty good.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 1:25:39 PM   
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 Personally, (and I'm at least half serious) I'd genre jump and have it set on a space station at least ten years hence.

Why?

Cos I like the way the original had a restricted location; people trapped, in a situation by armed hoods led by a 'mastermind' who cared nothing for their lives, with a hero who had to sneak around using his personal resources to survive and who couldn't super hero his way into or out of anything, no showy martial arts bullshit. You CAN still replicate the underlying 'machinery' of the first film, but anything other than a seriously outlandish choice of location would offer nothing new for the eye.

There'd be a 'WTF' reaction of course, but the location would allow the basics of the scenario to be run through again, making a 'proper' Die Hard movie of one man versus many using then environment to it's best advantage.

Basically, I'm talking about making an 'Alien' type movie, in which the 'Alien proxy' (John McClane) has to sneak around, hide, and when the baddies least expect it, take em out, one by one. The stakes are upped by the slow pace at which help can arrive, McClane can have a 'Black sidekick' in Mission control hacking into the systems from earth to combat the baddies hacker on board. Essentially, Imagine Alien from the Alien's perspective, it's only trying to survive, and if it doesn't kill the humans, they are going to kill it. John McClane, in that position, with air being vented out of the sections he's in to try and drive him into a trap, etc, taking him closer to an ambush as he has to go to where the air is, and death is certain, until...


So, yes, WTF but Die Hard was essentially 'The Towering Inferno' with a twist, so what the hell, nick another movie and cross pollenate. None of the sequels have matched the original because the only way the scenario can really create any atmosphere at all is if one vulnerable human being can use the environment to hide in, with his presence unknown, learned about, causing tension for the bad guys, who are afraid that whoever killed their buddies will kill them. And you can never get that back, whatever you do, on earth.

High concept, plus the man who wont quit, and will suffer as much as he needs to suffer, to save the lives of the innocent. That's the original Die Hard, get that right, and Die Hard: Atmosphere (or whatever) would be a lot better than you may currently be thinking



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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 4:43:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DazDaMan


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ORIGINAL: Scott_


quote:

ORIGINAL: The REAL Bozz

I didn't have an issue with Die Hard 4. It wasn't as good as the first three but it was still an enjoyable action flick. Die Hard is a big deal for Willis. I don't think he'd make one of these half arsed. I reckon the new one will be good.


Neither do I but he chose a writer with Wolverine on his CV and a director who nobody seems to like and everyone would agree is a hack. And the story, taking McClane global is all wrong....the only way that this entry could keep the Die Hard spirit (3 and especially 4 were pushing it....) is setting it on the plane taking him to Russia but terrorists on a plane is hardly a fresh idea is it?

I liked the idea of McClane in Vegas that got mentioned in the 'Alternate Universe Movies' thread, that was a damn cool idea for a Die Hard film.

Also I've said it before but it should be called Die Hard 5: Die Hardest


Die Hard Trilogy 2 for the PlayStation was set in Vegas. And it was pretty good.


I never played the second one, but remember how awesome the first one was.

Die Hard - third person shooter.
Die Hard 2 - lightgun shooter.
Vengeance - driving sim.

I fricking loved that game. Of course, I always used the cheat to make the bodies float in the air after you'd killed them.

Anyway, another better title...Live and Let Die Hard.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 5:40:12 PM   
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Personally, (and I'm at least half serious) I'd genre jump and have it set on a space station at least ten years hence.

Why?

Cos I like the way the original had a restricted location; people trapped, in a situation by armed hoods led by a 'mastermind' who cared nothing for their lives, with a hero who had to sneak around using his personal resources to survive and who couldn't super hero his way into or out of anything, no showy martial arts bullshit. You CAN still replicate the underlying 'machinery' of the first film, but anything other than a seriously outlandish choice of location would offer nothing new for the eye.

There'd be a 'WTF' reaction of course, but the location would allow the basics of the scenario to be run through again, making a 'proper' Die Hard movie of one man versus many using then environment to it's best advantage.

Basically, I'm talking about making an 'Alien' type movie, in which the 'Alien proxy' (John McClane) has to sneak around, hide, and when the baddies least expect it, take em out, one by one. The stakes are upped by the slow pace at which help can arrive, McClane can have a 'Black sidekick' in Mission control hacking into the systems from earth to combat the baddies hacker on board. Essentially, Imagine Alien from the Alien's perspective, it's only trying to survive, and if it doesn't kill the humans, they are going to kill it. John McClane, in that position, with air being vented out of the sections he's in to try and drive him into a trap, etc, taking him closer to an ambush as he has to go to where the air is, and death is certain, until...


So, yes, WTF but Die Hard was essentially 'The Towering Inferno' with a twist, so what the hell, nick another movie and cross pollenate. None of the sequels have matched the original because the only way the scenario can really create any atmosphere at all is if one vulnerable human being can use the environment to hide in, with his presence unknown, learned about, causing tension for the bad guys, who are afraid that whoever killed their buddies will kill them. And you can never get that back, whatever you do, on earth.

High concept, plus the man who wont quit, and will suffer as much as he needs to suffer, to save the lives of the innocent. That's the original Die Hard, get that right, and Die Hard: Atmosphere (or whatever) would be a lot better than you may currently be thinking




Why not on a boat? You know like terrorists take a cruise ship off the coast of Somalia or something.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 6:25:58 PM   
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 More feasible than what I said, I guess.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 6:35:19 PM   
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 Although the whole 'terrorists on a boat' thing is basically Under Siege/Speed 2.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 6:53:25 PM   
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 Which were also basically Die Hard on a boat....

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 8:06:01 PM   
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 McClane in space, it is then

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:11:59 PM   
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 Spalders' idea for the Somalian pirates would be good, though. Topical, relevant, and would kick fucking ASS. McClane would take no shit whatsofuckingever!

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:26:05 PM   
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Oh Christ........Paul Walker is being linked with the role of McClane's son.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 9:32:21 PM   
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Although the whole 'terrorists on a boat' thing is basically Under Siege/Speed 2.

I totally wouldn't mind a Die Hard/Willis remake of Under Siege, just as long as they keep Gary Busey and not stab a rubbish looking mannequin in the skull at the end...


That would be kinda weird since it was a Die Hard rip off in the first place, the whole thing would have come full circle

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 14/10/2011 10:06:51 PM   
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Oh Christ........Paul Walker is being linked with the role of McClane's son.


Walker's OK, but he'd be too old to play John Jr.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 15/10/2011 12:21:27 AM   
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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 16/10/2011 6:34:50 PM   
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 John McClane in the desert. Iran. Nukes. Al Qaeda. Taliban. Doing a Rambo. Wrong man. Wrong place. Wrong time. With Arabs. And Persians. And goats. Topical. Plus, he gets to do what Obama can't. Kick crap out of Ahmadinejad. I think that'll work. But feel free to introduce aliens and Atlantis and shit.

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RE: A Good Day To Die Hard.... - 16/10/2011 10:41:43 PM   
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Oh Christ........Paul Walker is being linked with the role of McClane's son.


Walker's OK, but he'd be too old to play John Jr.


He's defo too old!! Wasn't the son younger than the daughter, and Walker has at least five years on Winstead who played the daughter in 4.

In relation to alternate Die Hard plots i always thought crossing DH with Beverley Hills Cop 3 would've been awesome, with McClane taking his kids to a theme park which then gets taken over by terrorists (for some very, very strange reason)


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