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RE: The 100 Best British Films Ever - 20/10/2011 2:57:48 PM   
rick_7


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Oh Mr Porter! and Ask A Policeman

Surely one of these Will Hay classics deserve to make any Great British list, especially when said list here contains A Fish Called Wanda and Four Weddings & A Funeral. FFS.

I like trains and I really like Launder and Gilliat (actually, they like trains, don't they - The Lady Vanishes, Night Train to Munich, etc), but Oh Mr Porter! is dreadful.

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I believe this list is "...according to our reader... - 22/10/2011 2:36:46 AM   
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That would explain its quirkiness (in some people's opinion). These things tend to be dominated by the latest fad, so nice to see something sensible at no. 1

A better way to do this would be weight the votes by how old the film is. Anything that still gets a vote after 40 years should be considered a lot better than something that gets 40 votes after 1 year.

If you have any doubts about that, try guessing what's on the novel best-seller list for 1910. Then have a look. I doubt you'll have heard of many of the authors, never mind the books. Yet these are the Harry Potters of their day. Here they are:

http://www.arosebooks.com/58/best-selling-books-1910-1919/

I hope my point is made!

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RE: The 100 Best British Films Ever - 22/10/2011 4:33:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rick_7

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnChard

Oh Mr Porter! and Ask A Policeman

Surely one of these Will Hay classics deserve to make any Great British list, especially when said list here contains A Fish Called Wanda and Four Weddings & A Funeral. FFS.

I like trains and I really like Launder and Gilliat (actually, they like trains, don't they - The Lady Vanishes, Night Train to Munich, etc), but Oh Mr Porter! is dreadful.


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Rick, I thought I could count on you to love a little Will.

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A joke - 24/10/2011 12:22:49 AM   
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Shaun of the dead is a better film than bridge over the river Kwai and Zulu?THAT's WHY these lists are pure rubbish.

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What? - 24/10/2011 1:09:08 PM   
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I can think of a few that was so shamelessly left off the list. "Mona Lisa" and "The Crying Game" would be better choices than some of the Harry Potter movies you have on the list.

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Oh dear... - 24/10/2011 3:00:10 PM   
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"The King's Speech"? "Shakespeare in Love"? There are more than a few films which have been overhyped but are truly terrible. And did "Shaun of the Dead" really deserve to be that high? Don't get me wrong, I'm a massive Edgar Wright fan, but...

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RE: The 100 Best British Films Ever - 25/10/2011 1:53:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rick_7

quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnChard

Oh Mr Porter! and Ask A Policeman

Surely one of these Will Hay classics deserve to make any Great British list, especially when said list here contains A Fish Called Wanda and Four Weddings & A Funeral. FFS.

I like trains and I really like Launder and Gilliat (actually, they like trains, don't they - The Lady Vanishes, Night Train to Munich, etc), but Oh Mr Porter! is dreadful.


How can someone with such great taste in Westerns have such bad taste in British comedy?

Dreadful? Really? Even Kim Newman here gave it 3/5, with his only argument for not rating higher being that it's dated! Which is a "dreadful" excuse to use on any old classic film. The film is highly rated by other British Film Institutes and Forums. Not your thing? I can truck with that of course, but dreadful isn't a word I've ever seen attributed to Oh! Mr Porter before now.

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RE: The 100 Best British Films Ever - 25/10/2011 1:53:47 PM   
rick_7


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How can someone with such great taste in Westerns have such bad taste in British comedy?

Dreadful? Really? Even Kim Newman here gave it 3/5, with his only argument for not rating higher being that it's dated! Which is a "dreadful" excuse to use on any old classic film. The film is highly rated by other British Film Institutes and Forums. Not your thing? I can truck with that of course, but dreadful isn't a word I've ever seen attributed to Oh! Mr Porter before now.

I suppose comedy's a very subjective thing, so if you don't think it works, you really don't think it works. I just didn't laugh at the film and I found Hay's mugging really tiresome. Also, you know the way that comedies rich in non-sequiturs might not play well in another 50 years' time? That's kind of how I feel about Oh, Mr Porter! and some of Groucho Marx's jokes (not many, just some) - not only do I not find them funny, but I don't understand why they were once funny. Incidentally, '30s comedy is very much my thing (and, as I said, L&G are great), I just found this one a real struggle to get through. Sorry. Still, it doesn't really matter, it's just one incredibly handsome young man's opinion.

Hay-wise, I did like that one written by John Dighton a bit more - the one about the serial killer; that has some good gags in.

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Re: The 100 Best British Films - 25/10/2011 5:13:05 PM   
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Boy have you blown it. How could you leave out TOMMY, the all time best film of any country or decade?????? Sure Ann-Margret's incestuous overtones as Mrs. Walker were a tad much, but otherwise, Ken Russell directed a masterpiece. How can the stunningly beautiful Roger Daltrey's portrayal of the title role not move you to tears????? The Rocky Horror Picture Show was another overlooked British masterpiece. You just don't know what a truly great British film consists of!







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goog list - 25/10/2011 8:15:30 PM   
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good list but wheres films such as Get carter, The Elephant Man, Scum, Quadrophenia etc

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goog list - 25/10/2011 8:19:32 PM   
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good list but wheres films such as Get carter, The Elephant Man, Scum, Quadrophenia etc

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EMpire, the mag for teens!!! - 25/10/2011 8:22:04 PM   
daveo1973

 

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reading this list and quit simply amazed that some harry potter films are in there!!! these films obviously voted on popularity not the acting nor the story!!! a list this bad im supprised that spiceworld the movie wasnt at no 1!!!!

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The worst list ever - 2/12/2011 10:57:22 AM   
Fredlocks

 

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I registered just to vent my spleen. This list is awful. How is Monsters there and not Get Carter. What about I'm Alright Jack and the myriad of pre-1950s classics. What about Kidulthood and the Hammer/Amicus films.

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Sexy Beast Wrong Way 'Round - 3/12/2011 12:13:31 AM   
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While I'll agree with the selection of Sexy Beast for the list, my problem stems from all the critical super hype over Sir Ben's Don Loggan. For me his character is so over the top as to be comic relief. Where as Ian McShanes Teddy Bass was villain of nightmares. The scene in the hotel cafe, over breakfast, all he does is smile at Ray Winstone, and you feel that you need to hide beneath your seat.

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Sexy Beast Wrong Way 'Round - 3/12/2011 12:13:56 AM   
zeprin

 

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While I'll agree with the selection of Sexy Beast for the list, my problem stems from all the critical super hype over Sir Ben's Don Loggan. For me his character is so over the top as to be comic relief. Where as Ian McShanes Teddy Bass was villain of nightmares. The scene in the hotel cafe, over breakfast, all he does is smile at Ray Winstone, and you feel that you need to hide beneath your seat.

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Wait. - 15/12/2011 5:00:44 PM   
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Wait.. Where's Sleuth? - 15/12/2011 5:03:25 PM   
MrPinkBatman

 

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I don't want to hate on this, I mean, it had some of my favorites, but hey Empire. Where is Sleuth? It's maybe the best british film I've seen.

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94?!?!? - 14/2/2012 10:20:07 AM   
Mr. Fincher

 

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How can Tinker Tailor be at 94?! It is possibly one of the most uncompromisingly British films in history, and you've put it lower than WALLACE AND GROMIT?! OK, I'm done now.


94?!

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- 13/6/2012 10:31:14 PM   
SDHoneymonster

 

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Just re-read this after a few months - the lack of Get Carter and The Innocents still hurts. It really does.

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- 5/10/2012 3:37:17 PM   
hollyinhd

 

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Borat should not be on here, the Italian Job needs to be in the top ten.

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Gandhi and the Kings speech - 21/11/2012 10:13:36 PM   
nirvanaomid

 

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how are these two films lower than the Harry Potter films

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BORAT is sick and disgusting - 23/11/2012 3:24:08 PM   
bill the butcher

 

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Borat should not be on here

well said ... i hate BORAT .. sick sad excuse for a film

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The Zulu film - 17/6/2013 12:57:43 PM   
Jackie Anne

 

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Hey the Zulu film is there! Cool :-). That film is personal to me because my great (or great great) granddad was the man who won that war for us. He was known as Sargent Coal I think. :-p

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This should be No.1 - 14/2/2014 8:25:43 PM   
mike lloyd

 

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Get Carter

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Only 29th, surely a mistake ? - 14/2/2014 8:47:53 PM   
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100 Best British Films Ever?? - 17/8/2014 12:44:30 AM   
Gabriel2301

 

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Ok. I know everyone will have disagreements, (isn't that why we have lists) but surely there should be room for 'Brassed Off'!

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