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Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:31:09 PM   
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i couldn't seem to find a thread on this (watch someone prove me wrong) and i think i've dumped this in the right place.
i got to thinking the other night about how mainstream film always has to have a happy bloody ending.
apparently to make a film in the States it has to have a "feel good factor" involved where the good guy/element of the film always wins over the evil aspect.
so i tried to think of a film where the evil actually wins the day and could i as hell think of one.
so just to prove a point can anyone name a film/s where this has happened (this isn't for homework i'm far too bloody old for that sort of thing) it's just out of curiosity that's all and the fact that the alzheimers is creeping in.  
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:31:57 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:32:11 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:35:24 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:37:12 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:37:46 PM   
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This thread is going to need a big SPOILER ALERT in the subject.


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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:39:29 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:40:14 PM   
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do we need to say SPOILERS in such a thread?


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i'm sure there's hunners more.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:40:29 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:41:36 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:42:02 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:43:15 PM   
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Scott Pilgrim.


?

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:43:43 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:44:51 PM   
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Scott Pilgrim.


?


I think the intimation is that Scott Pilgrim is a dick, and remains so throughout the movie.

The intimation is correct.


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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:45:12 PM   
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Brazil.


He kinda evades them in the most drastic of ways.

Also, what about Twelve Monkeys?


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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:49:16 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:49:18 PM   
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quote:

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I think the intimation is that Scott Pilgrim is a dick, and remains so throughout the movie.

The intimation is correct.



How is he a dick at the end?


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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:49:54 PM   
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quote:

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The Passion Of The Christ

Good one,but God wins in the end?

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:51:07 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Scott Pilgrim.


?


I think the intimation is that Scott Pilgrim is a dick, and remains so throughout the movie.

The intimation is correct.


Yes,but lets leave that there maybe.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:52:28 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 7:58:32 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Brazil.


He kinda evades them in the most drastic of ways.

Also, what about Twelve Monkeys?



True, but the cold hard reality is that the hero has been tortured to the point where he has gone insane. I'd chalk that one up to the bad guys.


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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:00:13 PM   
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quote:

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Good one,but God wins in the end?


Yep, that's him.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:05:09 PM   
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Oldboy. It is a bit convoluted getting there but the bad guy still gets his way.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:13:59 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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quote:

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The Passion Of The Christ

Good one,but God wins in the end?


Yep, that's him.

I see what you did there!
Careful now!

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:20:51 PM   
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Shutter Island.
There Will Be Blood.

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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:25:55 PM   
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quote:

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Shutter Island.
There Will Be Blood


It's been a long time since I've seen Shutter Island (Saw it once and it didn't really click with me) but I don't remember any of the characters being particularly bad.


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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:36:07 PM   
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Whaat?Leo was the only sane man in the asylum.
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 8:48:10 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 9:11:35 PM   
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RE: Films where the bad guy wins - 19/9/2011 9:34:11 PM   
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King Kong, I guess, since humans are essentially the bad guys and Kong dies at the end.

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