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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 6:24:27 PM   
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Starcraft 2 made a gazillion dollars and Total War: Shogun 2 was also extremely successful so there is a sizable market for strategy games out there.

Aren't they both PC only?


They were (unless you count the Mac), as far as I'm aware that is.

My general point wasn't that a new Syndicate RTS game wouldn't make money, just that a well received multi-platform FPS is liable to make more. Black Ops sold more units in a day than Starcraft 2 did period. Everyone wants a slice of that pie.

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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 7:13:13 PM   
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Starcraft 2 made a gazillion dollars and Total War: Shogun 2 was also extremely successful so there is a sizable market for strategy games out there.

Aren't they both PC only?


They were (unless you count the Mac), as far as I'm aware that is.

My general point wasn't that a new Syndicate RTS game wouldn't make money, just that a well received multi-platform FPS is liable to make more. Black Ops sold more units in a day than Starcraft 2 did period. Everyone wants a slice of that pie.


A piece of shit pie? The fact Black Ops sold more units in a day just goes to show there are more morons on the planet than anyone could have credibly conceived...


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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 7:33:30 PM   
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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 7:33:54 PM   
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Starcraft 2 made a gazillion dollars and Total War: Shogun 2 was also extremely successful so there is a sizable market for strategy games out there.

Aren't they both PC only?


I don't see your point. If it made a gazillion, what does it matter which platform it made it on?

I'd wager this "Syndicate" game won't come close to Starcraft 2's sale even with all platforms combined.

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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 7:55:41 PM   
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Starcraft 2 made a gazillion dollars and Total War: Shogun 2 was also extremely successful so there is a sizable market for strategy games out there.

Aren't they both PC only?


I don't see your point. If it made a gazillion, what does it matter which platform it made it on?

I'd wager this "Syndicate" game won't come close to Starcraft 2's sale even with all platforms combined.

Starcraft 2 has sold 5.5M units to date.
Black Ops has sold 25M units to date.

That's what difference a platform makes.

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RE: Syndicate - 13/9/2011 8:42:36 PM   
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Starcraft 2 made a gazillion dollars and Total War: Shogun 2 was also extremely successful so there is a sizable market for strategy games out there.

Aren't they both PC only?


I don't see your point. If it made a gazillion, what does it matter which platform it made it on?

I'd wager this "Syndicate" game won't come close to Starcraft 2's sale even with all platforms combined.

Starcraft 2 has sold 5.5M units to date.
Black Ops has sold 25M units to date.

That's what difference a platform makes.


And The Darkness has sold 1.5M units to date.

The difference isn't the platform. 360 and PS3 might add one or two million to SC2's sales. The difference is that Call of Duty is a more popular franchise (sadly).

Catering to multiplatform is no guarantee of success. Dragon Age - a throw back to old school PC RPGS ported to consoles sold well over 5 million. DA2, a consolised piece of garbage hasn't sold half of that.

This is a big audience for more old school RPGs and strategy games out there. Expecting every game to sell like Call of Duty is like expecting every movie to match Avatar - fecking ridiculous.

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RE: Syndicate - 14/9/2011 9:53:58 AM   
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And The Darkness has sold 1.5M units to date.

The difference isn't the platform. 360 and PS3 might add one or two million to SC2's sales. The difference is that Call of Duty is a more popular franchise (sadly).

Catering to multiplatform is no guarantee of success. Dragon Age - a throw back to old school PC RPGS ported to consoles sold well over 5 million. DA2, a consolised piece of garbage hasn't sold half of that.

This is a big audience for more old school RPGs and strategy games out there. Expecting every game to sell like Call of Duty is like expecting every movie to match Avatar - fecking ridiculous.


I don't actually disagree with most of this and yes, expecting every game or movie to sell like Call Of Duty or Avatar is ridiculous, but that's not going to stop the powers that be from trying to replicate that success or at the very least cash-in on the trend, hence the market gets flooded with FPS games and blockbusters receive rush-job 3D conversions left, right and centre. It's just the way it is, it might pay off, it might not, but they obviously think (not unfairly) that their best shot lies with a similar product.

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RE: Syndicate - 21/9/2011 3:50:52 PM   
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 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/21/paradox-announce-cartel-interview/

Sounds more like Syndicate than the real sequel.


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RE: Syndicate - 23/9/2011 4:03:20 PM   
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 I always thought the best route for a new Syndicate was intricate between-mission stat-allocation and resource management, coupled with third-person real-time squad-based missions, where you either controlled one guy directly and issued orders to the rest of the team, or else could switch between agents (or even have three other people take over the rest of your crew).

I don’t really mind that the new one’s first person, it’s more the fact you’re an actual character rather than just a random expendable pleb that makes it sound “un-Syndicate-y”.


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RE: Syndicate - 28/9/2011 9:14:17 PM   
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Syndicate Remake Dated for February

Less than five months away

Written by litepink today at 16:45 | Credit to Avata

Although the revival of Syndicate was just recently unveiled, EA has set a firm release date on its "fast-paced, futuristic, action shooter.”

Speaking at an EA showcase event in Las Vegas, they confirmed that Syndicate will be in stores February 21st, 2012 in North America and February 24th in Europe. Don’t consider this a rush job though, as Starbreeze Studios has been working on the game for “the past couple years.” Fitting that the title would be under wraps for so long as it’s being touted as an "action/espionage" title.


Related story: Syndicate To Be Revived [UPDATE]

Categories: Xbox 360 Retail | Upcoming Release


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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 1:31:18 PM   
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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 2:13:47 PM   
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Still a major NO for me on this game. If they re-made the original and didn't make it into a FPS then I would defo be interested.

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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 3:31:15 PM   
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 This sequel to Deus Ex looks great!

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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 6:30:54 PM   
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This sequel to Deus Ex looks great!


It looks like they've dumbed it down into a linear, scripted event heay shooter.

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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 9:52:34 PM   
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 Taking the trailer in isolation, it might well have piqued my interest. There are a few features that look quite good, and I might have marked it as something to keep an eye on.

But, given that this is based on the Syndicate, the series looks like it's being trampled all over, so it can just fuck right off.

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RE: Syndicate - 29/9/2011 9:55:00 PM   
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RE: Syndicate - 13/10/2011 8:31:02 PM   
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 11 minutes of gameplay footage:

http://www.oxm.co.uk/34807/syndicate-gameplay-11-minutes-with-deus-exs-worst-nightmare/

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RE: Syndicate - 21/1/2012 5:20:55 PM   
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 Achievements announced

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/syndicate/achievements/

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RE: Syndicate - 21/1/2012 8:30:38 PM   
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It's just been released: http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/syndicate/

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RE: Syndicate - 23/1/2012 9:38:01 PM   
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ANOTHER FPS??????!??

Is the ENTIRE WORLD now fucking kidding me with this shit?

I don't think I've ever had such a stint of playing retro games than I have this past few years; I'm so bored of it all.  I think without Bethesda and a few others, I would just hang up my gaming boots and think "ah well, we had a good run back in day."

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RE: Syndicate - 23/1/2012 10:12:03 PM   
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ANOTHER FPS??????!??

Is the ENTIRE WORLD now fucking kidding me with this shit?

I don't think I've ever had such a stint of playing retro games than I have this past few years; I'm so bored of it all.  I think without Bethesda and a few others, I would just hang up my gaming boots and think "ah well, we had a good run back in day."



Give me 2D platforms, isometric 3D or eight way multi-directional scrolling over another FPS any day of the week (unless it's Portal 3 of course)...


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RE: Syndicate - 23/1/2012 10:21:00 PM   
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ANOTHER FPS??????!??

Is the ENTIRE WORLD now fucking kidding me with this shit?

I don't think I've ever had such a stint of playing retro games than I have this past few years; I'm so bored of it all.  I think without Bethesda and a few others, I would just hang up my gaming boots and think "ah well, we had a good run back in day."



Give me 2D platforms, isometric 3D or eight way multi-directional scrolling over another FPS any day of the week (unless it's Portal 3 of course)...



Amen.  I suppose it's not all doom and gloom, the upcoming x-com reboot has ditched it's original shooter concept after uproar from the fans in favour of good old turn based strategy.  There are still a few candles in the wind it seems (it's probably the only game I'm utterly psyched about at the mo).

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RE: Syndicate - 26/1/2012 9:39:41 AM   
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 I did some work on the pack art on this before it was given to ea in the US to do. It has been the worst kept gaming secret for years and it fucking sucks. I was hoping EA would have actually read some of the gaming forums over the last year and seen the backlash at it being an fps ans have amended it but no.

I don't think an rts would work now but a gritty sandbox game would. Basically the original Crackdown but with darker graphics would have been a natural choice for me.

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RE: Syndicate - 2/7/2012 2:39:35 PM   
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Given it's a Starbreeze game (or whoever's left at the studio these days...) I had to give this a go eventually, cleared Max Payne 3 off my to do list and finally gave this a shout.

If you've played The Chronicles of Riddick or The Darkness then this has a very similar feel to it, both graphically and in the way it plays. Genuinely weighty weapons, a great narrative and some nice voice work from some big name actors.

Not changing the world, but as first person shooters go this is definitely one of the better ones, the on-the-fly hacking to suicide/backfire/persuade enemies coupled with the D.A.R.T overlay mode and some bone crunching melee atacks always keep enemy encounters fresh and fun.

It's a little on the short side (about 7-8 hours I reckon) but the seperate co-op mode looks fun, have yet to give that a spin.

Recommended.

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RE: Syndicate - 3/7/2012 8:54:27 AM   
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