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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 14/9/2011 11:04:01 AM   
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Not seen any Ozu, but given that I generally like a lot of the Japanese cinema I've seen, I really should check it out.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 14/9/2011 1:57:05 PM   
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No, it's Ohayo, you racist. It's also fantastic, hilarious and brilliantly-observed slice of life dramedy.

Next one is Cure and that's also pretty good. Not as good as Pulse though.


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 14/9/2011 7:54:56 PM   
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Watch it swords, it's a perfect entry for Ozu. 

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 14/9/2011 7:57:27 PM   
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A lovely film and a nice choice. I hope you enjoy exploring Ozu further

I'd rank Cure above Pulse, probably. I'd have to watch them back to back to decide, though. But with the likes of Bright Future and Tokyo Sonata and Seance, it's hard to choose a favourite. I see he's heading back to TV next. ALthough it's more of an HBO equivalent so plenty of leeway I think. 


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 17/9/2011 5:05:59 PM   
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83.



A string of unusual murders are going around Tokyo and there is evidence that a third party is involved, influencing the people to kill others in the oddest of ways. Takabe Kenichi is the one investigating the murders and the possible suspect but as he goes along with the investigation, his own sanity becomes at stake. Some questions are answered while others remain a mystery, the film is disjointed nature offers a perfect psychological view of the character as what he considers normal is shattered around him by the apparently supernatural powers around him, leading to surreal and horrific visions and possible hallucinations while making a great deal of uncertainty. Images are seen but not explained and will never be, any safe connection with knowledge, security and the natural is broken and Kenichi (a feeling that is felt on the viewer) is lost. It reeks with atmosphere, Kurosawa's distant shots add effectively to coldness and horror of the scene and the only two pieces of soundtrack are effectively used (one of which is ironically cheery). There's also the rather brilliant sociological and psychological aspect as well. Also, it is miles ahead of Pulse.

Best Bit: OH NO HIS WIFE HAS COMMITTED SUICIDEwaitWHAT?!
Next Up: The one thing worse Micheal Bay's Pearl Harbor, stomach cancer.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 17/9/2011 5:25:53 PM   
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82. is too low.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 17/9/2011 5:26:29 PM   
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and by that I mean your clues are so obvious its pointless. Like you.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 18/9/2011 1:21:37 PM   
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83.



A string of unusual murders are going around Tokyo and there is evidence that a third party is involved, influencing the people to kill others in the oddest of ways. Takabe Kenichi is the one investigating the murders and the possible suspect but as he goes along with the investigation, his own sanity becomes at stake. Some questions are answered while others remain a mystery, the film is disjointed nature offers a perfect psychological view of the character as what he considers normal is shattered around him by the apparently supernatural powers around him, leading to surreal and horrific visions and possible hallucinations while making a great deal of uncertainty. Images are seen but not explained and will never be, any safe connection with knowledge, security and the natural is broken and Kenichi (a feeling that is felt on the viewer) is lost. It reeks with atmosphere, Kurosawa's distant shots add effectively to coldness and horror of the scene and the only two pieces of soundtrack are effectively used (one of which is ironically cheery). There's also the rather brilliant sociological and psychological aspect as well. Also, it is miles ahead of Pulse.



I'm guessing that line is a late addition to the review?

I think the atmosphere in Pulse takes what was done here to nerve-wracking extremes but this often feels more intimate. Thinking about it some more I'm still happy ranking Cure higher. But I do feel a pretty strong connection to Bright Future, even though that's often left behind these two.

WHat did you think of Tokyo Sonata Dev?


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 18/9/2011 2:57:42 PM   
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A couple of good choices, the next one is, as Swords says, far too low. 

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 18/9/2011 4:13:27 PM   
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I'm guessing that line is a late addition to the review?


It is.

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I think the atmosphere in Pulse takes what was done here to nerve-wracking extremes but this often feels more intimate.


Pulse does have a great atmosphere but I do have some problems with the characters and the ghosts themselves who can turn a great moment into something rather silly.

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Thinking about it some more I'm still happy ranking Cure higher. But I do feel a pretty strong connection to Bright Future, even though that's often left behind these two.

WHat did you think of Tokyo Sonata Dev?



Not seen neither but I'm very interested in them.

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A couple of good choices, the next one is, as Swords says, far too low. 


Yeah but swords likes Forrest Gump, why should I care?


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:22:08 PM   
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Ikiru is one of those films that actually enriches the soul and mind while watching it (better than The Matrix sequels, I might say). It might not be novel in its existentialist examination of life and death and it's possibly not even the best to deal with such a theme but it is certainly one of the finest examples of a film that takes such a theme and presents it in such a heartbreaking and thought-provoking manner. Ikiru starts with Kenji Watanabe discovering that he is going to die in a less than a year. Watanabe, a widower has worked in a monotonous bureaucratic for thirty years and lives with his son and daughter in law who only care about his pension, is obviously devastated but after much sadness and deliberation finally finds a meaning for his life in the form of a plan to build a children's playground. It's a very sad watch for most of the running time and great accliam has to go to Kurosawa and Shimura for achieving so well to channel both Watanabe's sadness and achievement. An incredible moment features Watanabe crushed in a bar, as he sadly sings a song about the brevity of life mostly consists of a close-up to Watanabe's face and Watanabe in that scene alone all the sadness of the film is portrayed. Kurosawa's stylish direction also helps in other moments, as Watanabe slowly walks on a street as all the life around speeds up around him. His attempts to find happiness in a much younger woman fail and give the wrongest of impressions, further showing how distant his family is from him. Then finally, Watanabe finds a meaning in a playground project. There, in an almost shocking transition, the film jumps to his funeral as the Watanabe's fellow employees discuss how the playground was made, where we see how Watanabe sees his lowest point and makes it his greatest. It's filled with many emotionally stirring scenes, it's both uplifting and devastating, both haunting and warm and it is one of the greatest humanist tales ever told on screen (or better, that I've seen). Add to that the social criticism on bureaucracy which is wittily told, Kurosawa's classy direction, Shimizu's excellent performance, the way the plot never steeps into wanton sentimentality, the great script filled with lines of wisdom, the stunning cinematography and it becomes one of the greatest films ever made that can greatly overcome its minor flaws.

Best Bit: Look at the dvd box cover above.
Next Up: Baby Geniuses.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:26:37 PM   
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Overrated, boring and pretentious.























































































lol joke it's brilliant.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:44:35 PM   
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Fuck off...

... oh wait that's a joke lol.

OMG HERE'S AN SUB-LIST: The Movies that would have made the list had I seen them earlier.

- - Au Revior Les Enfants set in Chile during the Allende's term and ends with the Chilean coup de'etat. Probably better than the French classic becuase of its portrayal of the Chilean political and social sphere of that era and the ever present problematic nature of Chile's education which resonates till today.

- (Ashes of Time Redux) One of the most beautiful looking movies ever made and also one of the greatest. Also, it's meant to be felt, not understood.

- Review coming soon on Top 100.

- - It's really good.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:47:45 PM   
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Hey, I watched Ashes of Time Redux last month and I really liked it.

Do you believe in co-incidences?

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:51:28 PM   
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Do you believe in co-incidences?


Yes. I think you should abandon your family and live with me.


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 4:53:49 PM   
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OK, deal.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 5:03:04 PM   
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And thus, a beautiful romance begins.

Can I recommend more people to watch Machuca? It's excellent.


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 5:10:46 PM   
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The original version is a masterpiece but the Redux removes several great scenes and music cues.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 5:21:39 PM   
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Yeah I've heard. Sadly this is the only version I found but on the bright it has new cues by Yo-Yo Ma, which is always a great thing. 

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:26:59 PM   
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I've seen the Redux, too, as it came in a boxset. It was pretty good but In the Mood is still the best Wong Kar Wai film I've seen.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:27:35 PM   
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What other WKW have you seen, Swords?

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:30:17 PM   
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In the Mood for Love - 4.5/5
Ashes of Time Redux - 4/5
Chungking Express - 3/5 (although that's a high 3, and likely to go up on repeat viewings)
Drive - 4/5 (although he was posing as this Danish guy when directing this one)

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:32:56 PM   
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Drive - 4/5 (although he was posing as this Danish guy when directing this one)




Give Fallen Angels and 2046 a try.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:35:24 PM   
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Drive - 4/5 (although he was posing as this Danish guy when directing this one)




Give Fallen Angels and 2046 a try.



Well next up is the other one in my boxset, but I can't remember what that's called, and my DVD shelf is currently about 3 paces away so I can't be bothered to go and look.

Oh, Happy Together, maybe?

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:44:20 PM   
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Happy Together is easily his weakest film. It's just two unlikable guys bickering at each other for 90 minutes.

And no, they're not unlikable because they're gay. They're just unlikable and happen to be gay. I know you were thinking that swordandsandals.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 27/9/2011 10:51:10 PM   
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Bit defensive.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 28/9/2011 9:37:50 AM   
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Drive - 4/5 (although he was posing as this Danish guy when directing this one)




Give Fallen Angels and 2046 a try.



Well next up is the other one in my boxset, but I can't remember what that's called, and my DVD shelf is currently about 3 paces away so I can't be bothered to go and look.

Oh, Happy Together, maybe?


That's the one.

I also have that boxset and that is also the one I have left to watch.

This is weird.


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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 28/9/2011 6:50:00 PM   
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Happy Together is easily his weakest film. It's just two unlikable guys bickering at each other for 90 minutes.

And no, they're not unlikable because they're gay. They're just unlikable and happen to be gay. I know you were thinking that swordandsandals.


Um, ok.


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That's the one.

I also have that boxset and that is also the one I have left to watch.

This is weird.


There can only be one explanation. You are actually me.

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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 28/9/2011 7:52:21 PM   
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RE: Deviation's Top 100 List (better than Piles' list) - 28/9/2011 11:01:50 PM   
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