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ORIGINAL: knave

Its not some dumb 5hit actionier (ie: Transformers, GI Joe etc)
and its noty a film that disappears up its own a55 (ala Nolan films) - It is a perfect mix of effects, story-telling and heart.

Film of the Year

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ORIGINAL: narmour

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ORIGINAL: knave

Its not some dumb 5hit actionier (ie: Transformers, GI Joe etc)
and its noty a film that disappears up its own a55 (ala Nolan films) - It is a perfect mix of effects, story-telling and heart.

Film of the Year

Nolan films aren't known for driving between Chester and Holyhead. IMO the trailer for The Dark Knight Rises was the best thing about this film.

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ORIGINAL: jobloffski

Presumably, in evolutionary scale terms, the increase in mental capacity made the need to be able to express more eloquently the motivator for the evolution of vocal chords, suspending disbelief enough within the already fantastical nature of the film, sudden massively increased intelligence in Caesars MOTHER created some differences in the gestation process that would facilitate speech. Ie, the body leapt forwards in physical developmental terms to catch up with the need to express, and over Caesars life, the process continued to develop because he was actively communicated with in hand signals and speech.

He spoke for the first time at a time of great trauma, as the time of greatest need.

Or something.

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ORIGINAL: Dpp1978
There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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ORIGINAL: elab49
I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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ORIGINAL: narmour

Quite disappointed with this after the good reviews it got. I suppose for a Hollywood blockbuster you shouldn't expect something which is too groundbreaking as it has to appeal to the masses. I found the characters cliched and one dimensional... the profit driven boss who only sees a dollar sign at the end of all the suffering he heaps on the test monkeys, the good scientist who is in a race against time to find a cure for his sick father (how coincidental it is that his Dad is suffering from the disease he has been studying since college... as he would have to be to be positioned at the forefront of medical research in that field), and the bratty employee at the monkey sanctuary who exerts his dominance on the monkeys and gets his comeupance.

The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

Don't get me started on Hollywood science. I couldn't swallow how a behaviour drug suddenly enabled Caesar to make a physiological change and grow vocal cords. How can such a dramatic change happen in just one generation. Don't let the laws of nature and physics get in the way of a good story. And when he said "Caesar home now" I nearly threw my popcorn at the screen. Cheese fest in the extreme.

To sum up, yes I was expecting escapism, but not to fly in the face of reality. I don't like films which can be picked apart completely in the car journey on the way home. My judge of how good a film is comes from how long you discuss it with your fellow movie goers. We had stopped talking about it 10 minutes later and will not mention it again whereas 'Project Nim' remains a hot topic of conversation 7 days later. Watch this if you want to see a good film about intelligent monkeys.

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ORIGINAL: FoximusPrime

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ORIGINAL: narmour

Quite disappointed with this after the good reviews it got. I suppose for a Hollywood blockbuster you shouldn't expect something which is too groundbreaking as it has to appeal to the masses. I found the characters cliched and one dimensional... the profit driven boss who only sees a dollar sign at the end of all the suffering he heaps on the test monkeys, the good scientist who is in a race against time to find a cure for his sick father (how coincidental it is that his Dad is suffering from the disease he has been studying since college... as he would have to be to be positioned at the forefront of medical research in that field), and the bratty employee at the monkey sanctuary who exerts his dominance on the monkeys and gets his comeupance.

The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

Don't get me started on Hollywood science. I couldn't swallow how a behaviour drug suddenly enabled Caesar to make a physiological change and grow vocal cords. How can such a dramatic change happen in just one generation. Don't let the laws of nature and physics get in the way of a good story. And when he said "Caesar home now" I nearly threw my popcorn at the screen. Cheese fest in the extreme.

To sum up, yes I was expecting escapism, but not to fly in the face of reality. I don't like films which can be picked apart completely in the car journey on the way home. My judge of how good a film is comes from how long you discuss it with your fellow movie goers. We had stopped talking about it 10 minutes later and will not mention it again whereas 'Project Nim' remains a hot topic of conversation 7 days later. Watch this if you want to see a good film about intelligent monkeys.

**Spoilers**

What jobloffski said.

To be fair, Franco's character could've chosen Alzheimer's as his specialist field precisely because his dad was diagnosed with the condition if it first appeared while he was in school / uni. Also, the "cure" for Alzheimer's wouldn't be a behavioural drug as it's not a behavioural problem .

And they do explicitly state at one point that the drug results in physiological change: they just happened to have only looked at the brain structure rather than vocal chords or spinal region (giving them the ability to stand / walk upright near the end).

While most of the human characters didn't really undergo much development throughout the film, they were rightly peripheral - it was Caesar and the other apes who were the focus of the story.

All in all, it's my favourite film of the year so far.

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ORIGINAL: narmour

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ORIGINAL: FoximusPrime

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ORIGINAL: narmour

Quite disappointed with this after the good reviews it got. I suppose for a Hollywood blockbuster you shouldn't expect something which is too groundbreaking as it has to appeal to the masses. I found the characters cliched and one dimensional... the profit driven boss who only sees a dollar sign at the end of all the suffering he heaps on the test monkeys, the good scientist who is in a race against time to find a cure for his sick father (how coincidental it is that his Dad is suffering from the disease he has been studying since college... as he would have to be to be positioned at the forefront of medical research in that field), and the bratty employee at the monkey sanctuary who exerts his dominance on the monkeys and gets his comeupance.

The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

Don't get me started on Hollywood science. I couldn't swallow how a behaviour drug suddenly enabled Caesar to make a physiological change and grow vocal cords. How can such a dramatic change happen in just one generation. Don't let the laws of nature and physics get in the way of a good story. And when he said "Caesar home now" I nearly threw my popcorn at the screen. Cheese fest in the extreme.

To sum up, yes I was expecting escapism, but not to fly in the face of reality. I don't like films which can be picked apart completely in the car journey on the way home. My judge of how good a film is comes from how long you discuss it with your fellow movie goers. We had stopped talking about it 10 minutes later and will not mention it again whereas 'Project Nim' remains a hot topic of conversation 7 days later. Watch this if you want to see a good film about intelligent monkeys.

**Spoilers**

What jobloffski said.

To be fair, Franco's character could've chosen Alzheimer's as his specialist field precisely because his dad was diagnosed with the condition if it first appeared while he was in school / uni. Also, the "cure" for Alzheimer's wouldn't be a behavioural drug as it's not a behavioural problem .

And they do explicitly state at one point that the drug results in physiological change: they just happened to have only looked at the brain structure rather than vocal chords or spinal region (giving them the ability to stand / walk upright near the end).

While most of the human characters didn't really undergo much development throughout the film, they were rightly peripheral - it was Caesar and the other apes who were the focus of the story.

All in all, it's my favourite film of the year so far.

no no no no no. Vocal chords don't just sprout out of nothing, and for them to be present after one generation of genetic mutation is scientifically impossible. Perhaps after about a million years it might be possible, but not a couple of generations. The film would have had more credibility IMO if they had steered clear of the whole talking apes thing.

I'm really glad those of you who can suspend your disbelief enjoyed this film. As I am a research scientist, I can't, so I didn't.

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The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

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ORIGINAL: narmour

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ORIGINAL: FoximusPrime

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ORIGINAL: narmour

Quite disappointed with this after the good reviews it got. I suppose for a Hollywood blockbuster you shouldn't expect something which is too groundbreaking as it has to appeal to the masses. I found the characters cliched and one dimensional... the profit driven boss who only sees a dollar sign at the end of all the suffering he heaps on the test monkeys, the good scientist who is in a race against time to find a cure for his sick father (how coincidental it is that his Dad is suffering from the disease he has been studying since college... as he would have to be to be positioned at the forefront of medical research in that field), and the bratty employee at the monkey sanctuary who exerts his dominance on the monkeys and gets his comeupance.

The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

Don't get me started on Hollywood science. I couldn't swallow how a behaviour drug suddenly enabled Caesar to make a physiological change and grow vocal cords. How can such a dramatic change happen in just one generation. Don't let the laws of nature and physics get in the way of a good story. And when he said "Caesar home now" I nearly threw my popcorn at the screen. Cheese fest in the extreme.

To sum up, yes I was expecting escapism, but not to fly in the face of reality. I don't like films which can be picked apart completely in the car journey on the way home. My judge of how good a film is comes from how long you discuss it with your fellow movie goers. We had stopped talking about it 10 minutes later and will not mention it again whereas 'Project Nim' remains a hot topic of conversation 7 days later. Watch this if you want to see a good film about intelligent monkeys.

**Spoilers**

What jobloffski said.

To be fair, Franco's character could've chosen Alzheimer's as his specialist field precisely because his dad was diagnosed with the condition if it first appeared while he was in school / uni. Also, the "cure" for Alzheimer's wouldn't be a behavioural drug as it's not a behavioural problem .

And they do explicitly state at one point that the drug results in physiological change: they just happened to have only looked at the brain structure rather than vocal chords or spinal region (giving them the ability to stand / walk upright near the end).

While most of the human characters didn't really undergo much development throughout the film, they were rightly peripheral - it was Caesar and the other apes who were the focus of the story.

All in all, it's my favourite film of the year so far.

no no no no no. Vocal chords don't just sprout out of nothing, and for them to be present after one generation of genetic mutation is scientifically impossible. Perhaps after about a million years it might be possible, but not a couple of generations. The film would have had more credibility IMO if they had steered clear of the whole talking apes thing.

I'm really glad those of you who can suspend your disbelief enjoyed this film. As I am a research scientist, I can't, so I didn't.

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ORIGINAL: Dpp1978
There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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ORIGINAL: elab49
I really wish I could go down to see Privates

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ORIGINAL: Timon

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The monkey effects were pretty good, but having watched 'Project Nim' the week before and not even realising that it was a CGI monkey, 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' pales into mediocracy.

Um. Granted I have yet to see it, but wasn't Project Nim a documentary?

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Can't believe some idiots didn't like this.

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ORIGINAL: darth silas

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Can't believe some idiots didn't like this.

So people who didnt like a film you enjoyed means they are idiots? Sounds like youre the idiot,but then thats hardly news.

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ORIGINAL: darth silas

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

Can't believe some idiots didn't like this.

So people who didnt like a film you enjoyed means they are idiots? Sounds like youre the idiot,but then thats hardly news.