Emyr Thy King
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The Trailer is chronological - it starts with the baby chimp (very cute!), shows it developing advanced intelligence, developing bonds, defending John Lithgow, being locked up, escaping, breaking out the monkey superserum and throwing it at the other monkey cages. Then it's all the rampaging monkey footage - that ends in the Golden Great bridge send off, meaning that most viewers could guess that would be at the end. I appreciate that people could technically avoid trailers, but if you go to a cinema a lot you'll have seen the Rise (so should have called it Chimps Gone Wild :() trailer more than that damn Orange Wednesdays Deperdieu ad. How do people avoid trailer "spoilers" anyway? Leave the cinema as soon as a film they're interested in comes on (banging into people coming in to see the main attraction on the way)?
I actually managed to see the theatrical realeases of "Batman Begins" and "Transformers" without actually seeing a trailer nor even a poster if I recall. Actually I had seen just a few images of "BB"; Bruce Wayne, the Batman and a rear shot of the Tumbler. I knew very little about both films and I enjoyed them immensely. I think if I had known too much about the plot or even its outline, it may have spoiled the experience for me a little. So it is possible, but very unlikely admittedly. Especially with viral marketing, internet coverage and trailers being seen on television and in cinemas.
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I think Newman is right in thinking that anything in the trailer is no exactly a 'spoiler'.
To be fair, he doesn't reveal too much about the final battle. Although to be fussy, I'd prefer it if he simply just mentioned a climactic battle at the end. As some would expect the National Guard to be involved perhaps. With just police, even with guns you know they're going to get stampeded!
I don't recall Kim Newman mentioned anything about the spoiler matter anyway?
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Chimps can rip people's faces off, and Gorillas have massive strength (Orangutangs are less cool, although I liked the one in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back). Add superintelligence and into the mix and you have , at the very least, a potentially fair fight. Who says that the apes can't figure out how to use weapons anyway? the trailer shows Caesar making a tool to escape the cage, which is surely more advanced than learning how to fire a gun (apes with rocket launchers or samurai swords would be pretty cool too)
Yes I know all about the strength of apes. Orangutangs are at least three times stronger than the strongest man on Earth could possibly be. Still, pulling a trigger is one thing. Handling and operating a complex weapon with moving parts is something else. Safety catches, unjamming a weapon, loading a new magazine, cocking it etc. Not something an ape would pick up, despite how intelligent it is. By the way, neanderthals managed to create basic tools. They didn't get very far though. 
For me, I think where this franchise will become interesting is showing the aftermath of the simian takeover. What will the post-apocalyptic Earth look like? What will the ape's new society be like? What will happen to the remnants of mankind? To me, whilst the kind of tales are cautionary, particularly about the perils of dealing with advanced, experimental and dangerous technology (rather technophobic); they're ultimately about the rise, fall and the rise again of mankind. The 'Terminator' series springs to mind.
I think in subsequent films. We're not going to see apes with particle beam weapons nor VTOL aircraft. They'll just have sharpened tools, knives and spears with a basic society. Which is why the world will crumble. All the complex technology and machinery maintained by man will come to ruin.
Apes with rocket launcher and samurai swords? No, boring. I'd much rather something more unusal. "Planet of the Apes vs Aliens" (no facepalming). I can just imagine the poster. A horde of both creatures on each side, an orangutang is face-hugged. Whilst a big gorilla has caught a face-hugger in mid-jump and ripped it in half. C'mon, you know you want to hehe.
Lastly, does anything think the naming of the rebellious main chimp is purposeful? Caesar...he was stabbed in the back and bertrayed. He also oversaw the transformation of the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire. In the same way he's reponsible for the end of the dominion of man (not indefinitely) to the dominian of the ape? Could there be an allegory here?
< Message edited by Emyr Thy King -- 10/8/2011 1:24:18 AM >
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