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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 10:59:24 AM   
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I for one don't fancy Helen Mirren and therefore don't engage in fantasies about her, practically everyone else but not her. Aguirre is class.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:10:25 AM   
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I for one don't fancy Helen Mirren and therefore don't engage in fantasies about her,


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:12:06 AM   
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I don't fancy her either. I can't stand her most of the time.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:15:11 AM   
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Why? The not being able to stand her bit, I mean. 

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:17:20 AM   
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I've never been impressed with her outside of Gosford Park and The Madness Of King George. She's made out to be some national treasure for reasons I just can't fathom.



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:17:41 AM   
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It's actually very popular with wannabe hipsters, so I'm surprised you don't love it. 


I'm not surprised, but, y'know, actual hipsters have more taste than that. Not that you'd know. You try-hard.


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 11:46:39 AM   
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I'm getting on this fairly early, cos I've actually seen 3 of the 4 films in the list so far, and I know with a rawls list, that kind of ratio ain't gonna last...

Abhijan - not seen. After this appeared first, I thought, "Oh right. Here we go....".

A bout de souffle - Not that keen, to be honest. It's alright, and has some likeable scenes, but it can be quite irritating at times and I still don't understand the adulation it gets. I gave it a 5.5/10 when I saw it. I later admitted that that was a bit harsh even for Johnny Harsh-pants, here. Didn't change it, though!

After Life - Ok, but slow and missing a bit of spark for me. Nobody Knows is superior.

Aguirre: The Wrath of God - This was my fist Herzog film, and only my second Kinski (Android!). Very good, and Kinski is awesome-mental. PA's opinion on it continues to bafflerise me.
I don't know what a hipster actually is. I realise that means I can't possibly be one. I was listening to one of the Scott Pilgrim commentaries and they kept banging on and on and on about hipsters, and I was thinking, yeah, but what the fuck are you on about? Hipsters shmipsters, I say.
Oh, and I don't fancy or ham-shank over Helen Mirren. She's. An. Old. Lady.


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 1:53:01 PM   
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5.
Alice in the Cities
(1974; Wim Wenders)




Cast: Rudiger Vogler, Yella Rottlander, Lisa Kreuzer
Country: West Germany

Spoilers ahead

Alice in the Cities is a film with a deceptively simple plot. Photo-journalist Philip Winter (Rudiger Vogler) has become weary of his job. After screwing up his latest assignment in America, he returns to Germany in an attempt to rediscover his muse. An airline strike means he can't fly direct to Germany, having to travel to Amsterdam first. He meets a woman, Lisa (Lisa Kreuzer), who is in a similar situation, along with her young daughter Alice (Yella Rottlander). He gets them booked on the same flight as him and they share a hotel room for the night. The next morning, Lisa is gone, trying to talk things over with her ex. She promises to be meet Philip and Alice on top of the Empire State Building later that day. She doesn't meet them, leaving a note at the hotel asking Philip to fly Alice to Amsterdam, promising to meet him there. Philip takes her, but Lisa doesn't make any of the flights. Alice's only hope is her grandmother. Together, Philip and Alice embark on a tour of various cities, trying to find her grandmother. Trouble is she doesn't know her name or her address. Her only clue is a photograph of her grandmother's house, with no street signs in the picture.

In Hollywood hands, Alice would be an adorable moppet, here she's selfish and often unlikeable. Philip would be a ragged but charming eccentric, here's he a near burn-out who reacts to most situations with stoic acceptance. Even his moments of anger pass quickly, and he tries to help the girl long after most of us would have dropped her off at the closest police station. At the end of the film, Philip and Lisa would fall merrily in love. Let's just say Hollywood taking on this would be sickly and kooky John Hughes style bullshit. It certainly wouldn't display the same disillusionment with the rampant commercialism of America as Wenders does here. It's disillusionment with society that is leaving our leading man in crisis. Winter is a lost man, his pictures fail to capture the world as he sees it, he finds America empty, a place where everything has been turned into a slogan. The starkly atmospheric black and white cinematography reflecting his melancholy and isolated world view.

The situation that brings the characters together may read as forced or contrived to some from the synopsis, but thanks to the acting, it plays out as completely believable on screen. Yella Rottlander gives one of the great child performances, actually acting rather than simpering for the camera and Rudiger Vogler shows again why he's one of the greatest, most overlooked, actors of his era. The chemistry between the two is really what makes the film work, both underplaying and letting the love/hate tension between the characters seem natural rather than trying to force connections.

Alice... resists the urge to yell too loudly about any of its concerns, and ultimately I think that will alienate a lot of viewers. It's a film that takes patience from the viewer, and it needs you to become accustomed to its rhythms. It's a simple story, filled with moments of small beauty and an absolute lack of sentimentality, I wish there were a lot more films like it.



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 1:55:16 PM   
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I've never been impressed with her outside of Gosford Park and The Madness Of King George. She's made out to be some national treasure for reasons I just can't fathom.




But what about Age of Consent, Last Orders, Excalibur, The Long Good Friday, Blue Remembered Hills?

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 2:00:15 PM   
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Abhijan - not seen. After this appeared first, I thought, "Oh right. Here we go....".



Here we go good or here we go bad?

What do you think of Maborosi?

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 2:18:48 PM   
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I wonder how long it will be until we get to a film I've seen.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 2:56:49 PM   
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Are you a fan of animation? Because it's animation next. 

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 3:04:22 PM   
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Depends whether you mean Hollywood or Foreign. Seen lots of Holywood and hardly any foreign. So we'll see.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 3:05:32 PM   
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Abhijan- Not seen but I luuuuuuuuuuurve the Apu trilogy.
Breathless- I luuuuuuuuurve this too.
After Life- I think I will luuuuuuuuuurve this more than I love PA's mum.
Aguirre- I'm surprised PA hasn't done a hissy fit about this. Great film though.
Alice in the Cities- I have Kings of the Road to watch, after watching that I'll watch this.


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 3:18:37 PM   
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Abhijan - not seen. After this appeared first, I thought, "Oh right. Here we go....".



Here we go good or here we go bad?

What do you think of Maborosi?

Here we go... a rawlinson list full of obscure films I've neither seen nor heard of!
It might not be that obscure in the scheme of things - I'm aware of Satyajit Ray (but only cos of folk on this forum discussing his films) and for all I know this might be one of his most famous titles.
Haven't seen Maborosi either....


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Are you a fan of animation? Because it's animation next. 

Hmmm. We're past Aladdin in your alphabet of dreams. All Dogs Go to Heaven? Appleseed? Seems unlikely. An American Tale? Astro Boy? Damn, where's Timmy when you need one.

Wait, I know! It's All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku!



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 3:21:24 PM   
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Past Akira too.

Bambi?

Edit:
An American Tail
Anastasia
A Scanner Darkly (Does that count?)
Arthur and the Invisibles

Or is it a A Matter of Loaf and Death just for Gimli

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:10:00 PM   
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Aguirre is class.


All opinions against this are just water against the rocks.

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What do you think of Maborosi?


Any sane person would undoubtedly have it on their top 650 films list.


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:26:08 PM   
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I've never been impressed with her outside of Gosford Park and The Madness Of King George. She's made out to be some national treasure for reasons I just can't fathom.




But what about Age of Consent, Last Orders, Excalibur, The Long Good Friday, Blue Remembered Hills?



I've seen the middle three. Good films, she isn't.

I'd love it if the next film was Alvin and the Chipmunks Meet Frankenstein. I think it may be American Pop


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:28:15 PM   
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Not seen Abhijan, After Life or Alice in the Cities.

I really like A bout de souffle but I still can't decide where I stand on Aguirre - some days I think its fantastic, some days I think its really really dull (though Kinski is great).


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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:56:58 PM   
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6.
Allegro non troppo
(1976; Bruno Bozzetto)




Cast: Néstor Garay, Maurizio Micheli, Maurizio Nichetti
Country: Italy

Created as both parody of and response to Disney's Fantasia, this Italian animated feature also uses classical music as inspiration for animated segments. Bookending the film, and introducing each new segment, are live-action sequences showing the animator, conductor, orchestra and film-maker working on the production of the film. Truth be told, these don't really work. They're overlong, interrupt the flow of the piece and are far too slapsticky when most viewers will just be waiting for the next short film. Thankfully the animated segments are astonishing, and enough to make Allegro non troppo into a masterpiece of animated cinema.

We start with Debussy's Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un faune. In the accompanying animation, we find ourselves in a forest filled with satyrs and nymphs. An aging and lonely satyr, no longer desired by the nymphs, finds himself surrounded by female bodies. Not just in the naked forms around him, but in candlesticks, bushes and the branches of trees. He decides to try and look younger to find a mate, but every effort is doomed to failure. The segment is bawdy, but it has much to say about loneliness and aging.

For Dvorak's Slavonic Dance No. 7, Op. 46, we follow a cave man who just wants to break away from the pack. He builds a little house of his own, away from the caves, and he's soon followed and imitated by every other caveman. Every new innovation by this resourceful little caveman is matched by his peers, until he finds himself pushed to desperate measures.

In the film's most ambitious piece, Ravel's Bolero, is used to trace the evolution of man. Starting with the sludge in the bottom of a discarded bottle of Coca-Cola, we follow the various stages of evolution, until we reach a terrifying vision of man's influence on the planet. The image of the bottle has probably become the most famous from the film, thanks to its use on the film's poster.

For Sibelius's Valse triste, we follow a stray cat wandering a ruined house. The cat dreams or remembers the building in its glory days, where people and furniture once stood. The image of the scrawny cat swiping at an imagined birdcage, frightened by the memory of a dog or trying to nuzzle into chairs long destroyed is just heartbreaking. If you're not in tears by the end of it you have neither heart nor soul.

In Vivaldi's Concerto in C major, a bee finds her lunch interrupted by a frisky couple. It's a slight, but light-hearted, piece, and the film needs it after the Valse triste segment.

For Stravinsky's Firebird, a lump of clay is moulded and then goes on to mould the Adam and Eve of the Bible. When Satan is unable to convince them to eat the apple, he takes a bite himself, and suffers an anti-consumerist's nightmare. The snake eventually scares away everyone in the live-action sequence, but there's still time for a finale involving a hunchback and a miniature playhouse.

It's not as savage an attack on Disney as you might expect, the most blatant jab is a phone call during one of the live action sequences where someone called Prisney claims the idea is stolen. Bozzetto doesn't need to attack Fantasia to make his point though. As visually stunning as Fantasia is, it doesn't have the heart or the depth of this film, and there's nothing in the entire Disney canon quite as beautiful as Valse triste. It's easy to dismiss it as headtrip cinema, but it's far more than that, it's one of the great animated films, now more people just need to see it.



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:58:02 PM   
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Alice in the Cities- I have Kings of the Road to watch, after watching that I'll watch this.



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 4:59:58 PM   
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Abhijan - not seen. After this appeared first, I thought, "Oh right. Here we go....".



Here we go good or here we go bad?

What do you think of Maborosi?

Here we go... a rawlinson list full of obscure films I've neither seen nor heard of!
It might not be that obscure in the scheme of things - I'm aware of Satyajit Ray (but only cos of folk on this forum discussing his films) and for all I know this might be one of his most famous titles.
Haven't seen Maborosi either....


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Are you a fan of animation? Because it's animation next. 

Hmmm. We're past Aladdin in your alphabet of dreams. All Dogs Go to Heaven? Appleseed? Seems unlikely. An American Tale? Astro Boy? Damn, where's Timmy when you need one.

Wait, I know! It's All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku!




I'm slightly worried that Alain is the first animated film you went for.

You should see Maborosi, btw.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 5:01:36 PM   
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Past Akira too.

Bambi?

Edit:
An American Tail
Anastasia
A Scanner Darkly (Does that count?)
Arthur and the Invisibles

Or is it a A Matter of Loaf and Death just for Gimli


Akira did nearly make it. I'm not giving away if A Scanner Darkly or Loaf and Death will be under s and m though.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 5:02:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

I've never been impressed with her outside of Gosford Park and The Madness Of King George. She's made out to be some national treasure for reasons I just can't fathom.




But what about Age of Consent, Last Orders, Excalibur, The Long Good Friday, Blue Remembered Hills?



I've seen the middle three. Good films, she isn't.

I'd love it if the next film was Alvin and the Chipmunks Meet Frankenstein. I think it may be American Pop



Nah, American Pop isn't in the list, it's not as good as most other Bakshi films of that era.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 5:02:36 PM   
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Any sane person would undoubtedly have it on their top 650 films list.



Indeed they would.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 12/7/2011 5:02:58 PM   
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Not seen Abhijan, After Life or Alice in the Cities.



You must you must you must.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 13/7/2011 10:39:41 AM   
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Past Akira too.

Bambi?

Edit:
An American Tail
Anastasia
A Scanner Darkly (Does that count?)
Arthur and the Invisibles

Or is it a A Matter of Loaf and Death just for Gimli


Akira did nearly make it. I'm not giving away if A Scanner Darkly or Loaf and Death will be under s and m though.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if something on this list comes under "S and M"....

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 13/7/2011 10:39:57 AM   
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Another film I've never heard of. Nice review though.

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RE: My Top 650 Films - 13/7/2011 1:59:10 PM   
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7.
Almost Human
(1974; Umberto Lenzi)




Cast: Tomas Milian, Henry Silva, Anita Strindberg, Laura Belli
Country: Italy

Spoilers ahead

Lenzi is often regarded as little more than a cash-in director, probably best known in the mainstream for the notorious Cannibal Ferox. The truth is that he was a fine director, especially when it came to low-budget and gritty entries in the polizia subgenre, Almost Human is not only the best of them, it's one of the best horror/thrillers of the 1970s.

Tomas Milian stars as Giulio Sacchi, a member of an organized crime outfit in Milan. During a bank robbery he ends up needlessly shooting a police officer, the rest of the gang, realising the danger he poses to them, immediately cut him loose. He forces his way back into the life of his ex-girlfriend, Iona (Anita Strindberg) and turns to petty crime to survive. While robbing a cigarette machine, he kills another cop. Finally he hits on a get rich quick scheme. Iona works for the wealthy businessman Perrino and Sacchi decides to kidnap his daughter, Mary Lou, and hold her for ransom. Sacchi recruits a couple of small time crooks and his new gang kidnap Mary Lou, but first, in one of the most sadistic sequences in the film, they pursue her to a secluded country house and massacre the inhabitants, but not before tormenting the group. Our lead grows increasingly psychotic, but can the dedicated  Inspector Grandi (The great Henry Silva) stop his crime spree?

I can't defend the film from accusations of sleaziness, and it's true that the sex and violence may be a little too much for most people. Among other depravities, Iona responds favourably to being raped, women are hung topless from a chandelier before being murdered, Mary-Lou is under constant threat of sexual abuse, a man is forced (offscreen) to perform oral sex on his captor and a young child is brutally murdered. It's not for the faint-hearted viewer.

But even if Almost Human is undeniably sleazy, it's also thrilling and compelling viewing. The biggest problem is you almost feel as if Lenzi is on Sacchi's side at times, especially with scenes that depict the rich as vapid and equally corrupt with Sacchi reacting against that. It's unfortunate because while I'm not a fan of seeing characters judged, Sacchi shouldn't be given a get-out clause for his acts. Milian's take on the character is incredible, playing him almost as a sadistic child and bringing a genuine sense of menace to the role. Milian was recently dismissed as a pretty-boy by a film critic. That critic has obviously never seen Almost Human.



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RE: My Top 650 Films - 13/7/2011 2:00:24 PM   
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Past Akira too.

Bambi?

Edit:
An American Tail
Anastasia
A Scanner Darkly (Does that count?)
Arthur and the Invisibles

Or is it a A Matter of Loaf and Death just for Gimli


Akira did nearly make it. I'm not giving away if A Scanner Darkly or Loaf and Death will be under s and m though.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if something on this list comes under "S and M"....


I can't really feel insulted when I've just put up my Almost Human review, can I?

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