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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 12:50:08 PM   
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Nah, it was always coming out next weekend. 

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 12:59:53 PM   
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I want to check out the prequel. And by all accounts Mary Elizabeth Winstead is very good in it.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:12:20 PM   
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I want to check out  Mary Elizabeth Winstead.


Edited for honesty.


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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:16:44 PM   
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I want to check out  Mary Elizabeth Winstead.


Edited for honesty.



Yeah pretty much.


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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:27:53 PM   
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Definitely looking forward to getting this on blu ray, cant wait in fact! Watched the original on blu ray recently. It was cool to see it in hi def.


If you cant wait to see the film,then why dont you go see it at the cinema? Its being released very soon ist it?



Because going to see films at the cinema is, imo a waste of money

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:31:53 PM   
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A DVD of the film will cost more than a cinema ticket, shirley? And what if you're stuck with a film you don't like?

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:33:24 PM   
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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:33:54 PM   
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And i dont buy dvds anyway

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 1:34:59 PM   
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I have a system, dont worry about it, not really for you to concern yourself with!


Fair enough. Just wondering...

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 2:02:41 PM   
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Sorry if that came across as snappy, im just fed up of people always asking me why i dont see films at the cinema! Cos its effing expensive, full of chavs and the picture quality is crap! Whereas i can buy a blu ray new, if i dont like it i can trade it and only lose out on less than it would cost me to rent it anyway. If i saw a movie at the cinema and then bought the blu ray, ive then spent twice as much as i need to on it! Frankly this is insanity to my mind. Every time i go to the cinema i have a horrible experience, cinemas are shit and an extortionate way to watch movies imo. Blu ray blind buys all the way.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 2:21:26 PM   
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Sorry if that came across as snappy, im just fed up of people always asking me why i dont see films at the cinema! Cos its effing expensive, full of chavs and the picture quality is crap! Whereas i can buy a blu ray new, if i dont like it i can trade it and only lose out on less than it would cost me to rent it anyway. If i saw a movie at the cinema and then bought the blu ray, ive then spent twice as much as i need to on it! Frankly this is insanity to my mind. Every time i go to the cinema i have a horrible experience, cinemas are shit and an extortionate way to watch movies imo. Blu ray blind buys all the way.

Finally, im an excellent judge of what movies i will like


Bloody hell! Id hate to live where you live!


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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 2:31:41 PM   
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I can't imagine never going to cinema. I guess I'm lucky that my local has pretty good projection quality and a low tolerance for troublemakers.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 4:36:43 PM   
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Its called the midlands and its a shithole! Kinda like the rest of the uk actually!

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 5:33:12 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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I can't imagine never going to cinema.


No one's asking you to!

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 6:56:05 PM   
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You have something on your shoulder, Don. No, the other side. No, that thing that looks like a chip. Yeah, right there...

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 7:18:13 PM   
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Sorry if that came across as snappy, im just fed up of people always asking me why i dont see films at the cinema! Cos its effing expensive, full of chavs and the picture quality is crap! Whereas i can buy a blu ray new, if i dont like it i can trade it and only lose out on less than it would cost me to rent it anyway. If i saw a movie at the cinema and then bought the blu ray, ive then spent twice as much as i need to on it! Frankly this is insanity to my mind. Every time i go to the cinema i have a horrible experience, cinemas are shit and an extortionate way to watch movies imo. Blu ray blind buys all the way.

Finally, im an excellent judge of what movies i will like


Doesn't one of your locals do an unlimited monthly scheme? Its really good value for money imo. As for the picture quality most multiplexes these days have all digital screens which look great, no scratches like you used to get back when they used traditional prints and if you hate chavs in the cinema go to early or afternoon screenings. The chavs only show up at night.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 7:20:36 PM   
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Don't make any perfectly innocent statements or ask questions, Spaldron. Don doesn't like it.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 7:27:48 PM   
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You have something on your shoulder, Don. No, the other side. No, that thing that looks like a chip. Yeah, right there...




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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 7:29:10 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

Sorry if that came across as snappy, im just fed up of people always asking me why i dont see films at the cinema! Cos its effing expensive, full of chavs and the picture quality is crap! Whereas i can buy a blu ray new, if i dont like it i can trade it and only lose out on less than it would cost me to rent it anyway. If i saw a movie at the cinema and then bought the blu ray, ive then spent twice as much as i need to on it! Frankly this is insanity to my mind. Every time i go to the cinema i have a horrible experience, cinemas are shit and an extortionate way to watch movies imo. Blu ray blind buys all the way.

Finally, im an excellent judge of what movies i will like


Doesn't one of your locals do an unlimited monthly scheme? Its really good value for money imo. As for the picture quality most multiplexes these days have all digital screens which look great, no scratches like you used to get back when they used traditional prints and if you hate chavs in the cinema go to early or afternoon screenings. The chavs only show up at night.


That doesn't alter the expense issue, which is a huge deciding factor. I also much prefer the comfort of watching something at home!

Anyway back on topic, looking forward to The Thing on Blu Ray

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 23/11/2011 7:49:11 PM   
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Nah, it was always coming out next weekend. 



Thanks for letting me know.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 24/11/2011 1:14:40 PM   
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Lets face it, it was damned from the day it was announced.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 24/11/2011 1:58:52 PM   
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So was the Dawn of the Dead remake - and by being good, it turned around the outright hatred for the project. 

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 24/11/2011 2:29:56 PM   
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3 stars in the new issue of Empire. I'm surprised, I expected it to get panned.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 24/11/2011 5:53:23 PM   
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Nah, three stars is exactly what I predicted...

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 24/11/2011 5:54:41 PM   
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When is the review online? Im kind of keen to see this film...

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 27/11/2011 9:16:17 PM   
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Some spoilers ahead

I've seen the film now and it probably comes as no surprise to anyone to hear that I really didn't connect with it.

The entire film is a poorly executed rehash of the Carpenter's, only diluted and dumbed down for the cheap seats. I stopped counting the times the creatures method of assimilation was explained to us around the third though I know they continued to beyond that. It plays out like a rushed version of Carpenter's film (as entire scenes hit almost exactly the same beats despite this being a different crew), however more focus is placed on action orientated monster set pieces. What deviations are made with the creature stand in complete contrast to the way it has already been established to act. One could have hoped that in assimilating the original film they could have absorbed some of the key points that made it so great (reliance on character, paranoia and the slow build of tension).

However, looking past how this prequel compares to Carpenter's horror classic, the film still fails to establish a consistent character of it's own for the creature. At one point it transforms and shoots tentacles across a room at great speed within a couple of seconds, but when alone with the heroine it attacks on foot despite her being no more than a couple of yards away. Next we see that it is able to shed parts of body in order to attack potential prey, but when our heroine is caught just out of arms reach it displays no such ability. Also why does this stealthy imitator of men and women continue to expose itself in situations where it isn't under threat (as in the helicopter)? And why does it even leave the spaceship in the first place if it's clearly operational? And why doesn't the creature assimilate the herione in the film's final moments as she's both unarmed and alone? Why does it instead doom itself by gifting her it's flamethrower?

'Why?' is a crippling question the film simply doesn't have an answer for.

I agree with most who say that we simply see too much of the creature. I'm very much of the opinion that the inevitable revelation of the monster in Carpenter's film is a punch line to 20-30 minutes worth of tension and paranoia. Our brief glimpse at this morphing monster simply wouldn't have been effective without that slow build. Unfortunately this prequel moves at such a break neck pace that any thought of tension is usually as a result of further aping of the Carpenter film, as we're treated to another far less effective version of the test scene. Speaking of 'morphing', the creature's transformations are over in a matter of seconds. In Carpenter's film we were introduced to a continuously morphing creature that had no real form of it's own unless it was imitating an individual. Here those torturous transformations are whittled down to a few seconds before the creature mindlessly attacks.

There are some plus points. I enjoyed the attention to detail with the set design, thought the sound of the creature was effective (those unearthly screams are bang on) and although the characters are pretty one-dimensional (further robbing us of tension) no one really shits the bed. But despite the efforts of the cast they're simply given too little to work with. I could tell you how the film and character dynamic would play out from the cast list alone (when will producers stop trying to shoe horn Ripley clones into horror films? I thought they only made 8 of those fuckers).

Anyhow none of that really matters as this film failed before they even shot a single frame due to it's inherent redundancy. Most of our questions about the Norwegian crew had already been answered in Carpenter's film as the very same fate befalls their American counter parts. In offering us the same situation, in the same place, with similar people at around the same time they've simply forgotten to offer us something new.

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RE: Thats not The Thing, Thats an imitation! - 27/11/2011 9:26:04 PM   
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i'm still really excited to see this, i think im really going to enjoy as a monster movie, regardless of it being a prequel to The Thing.

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Things are exactly what they used to be! - 27/11/2011 9:46:40 PM   
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In offering us the same situation, in the same place, with similar people at around the same time they've simply forgotten to offer us something new.


SPOILERS AHOY!

Couldn't agree more, to the extent of frequently offering us almost the exact same scenes.  Mis-firing flamethrowers?  Check.  Everyone getting tested at flamethrower point? Check.  Would-be prison cells not so secure after all? Check,

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RE: Things are exactly what they used to be! - 28/11/2011 12:26:06 AM   
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So its a remake masquerading as a prequel?

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RE: Things are exactly what they used to be! - 28/11/2011 11:39:55 AM   
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In offering us the same situation, in the same place, with similar people at around the same time they've simply forgotten to offer us something new.


SPOILERS AHOY!

Couldn't agree more, to the extent of frequently offering us almost the exact same scenes.  Mis-firing flamethrowers?  Check.  Everyone getting tested at flamethrower point? Check.  Would-be prison cells not so secure after all? Check,


Yup, they pretty much cherry picked the majority of major set pieces from Carpenter's film. Even the whole initial blood test being sabotaged was stolen.

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So its a remake masquerading as a prequel?


Absolutely.

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