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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 4:35:17 PM   
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"Why doesn't my boy play for England? Eh? It's cos Sven hates me."

No, it's because your son is utter gash.


Which game is that SWP scored that good goal for England in? I remember you could hear his screams of joy from the studio mics placed in the commentary box. He wouldn't shut up about it after the game, in fact I don't think he sat down for 20 minutes.

I'll take it you are referring to Shaun as being "utter gash" because Bradders is a pure bloody footballing genius I'll have you know!


I think he scored twice on his debut.

And compared to Shaun, I'm sure Bradley is veritably Messi-esque.


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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 4:35:23 PM   
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Martin Keown's best moment as a pundit was when he got hit in face with the ball a few months back.



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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 4:48:41 PM   
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"Why doesn't my boy play for England? Eh? It's cos Sven hates me."

No, it's because your son is utter gash.


Which game is that SWP scored that good goal for England in? I remember you could hear his screams of joy from the studio mics placed in the commentary box. He wouldn't shut up about it after the game, in fact I don't think he sat down for 20 minutes.

I'll take it you are referring to Shaun as being "utter gash" because Bradders is a pure bloody footballing genius I'll have you know!


I think he scored twice on his debut.

And compared to Shaun, I'm sure Bradley is veritably Messi-esque.


As we sing....

"He's better than Shaun, he's better than Shaunnnnnnnnn, oh Bradley Wright Phillips, he's better than Shaun!!"


Those are rubbish lyrics.


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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 4:51:36 PM   
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"Why doesn't my boy play for England? Eh? It's cos Sven hates me."

No, it's because your son is utter gash.


Which game is that SWP scored that good goal for England in? I remember you could hear his screams of joy from the studio mics placed in the commentary box. He wouldn't shut up about it after the game, in fact I don't think he sat down for 20 minutes.

I'll take it you are referring to Shaun as being "utter gash" because Bradders is a pure bloody footballing genius I'll have you know!


I think he scored twice on his debut.

And compared to Shaun, I'm sure Bradley is veritably Messi-esque.


As we sing....

"He's better than Shaun, he's better than Shaunnnnnnnnn, oh Bradley Wright Phillips, he's better than Shaun!!"


Those are rubbish lyrics.



to you. Those are great lyrics. 19 goals so far this season says so, clearly all our doing with our untarnished support!

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 6:08:22 PM   
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to you. Those are great lyrics. 19 goals so far this season says so, clearly all our doing with our untarnished support!


Wow, thats great 19 goals, he can dedicate one to each of you.





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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 13/3/2012 8:47:54 PM   
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to you. Those are great lyrics. 19 goals so far this season says so, clearly all our doing with our untarnished support!


Wow, thats great 19 goals, he can dedicate one to each of you.






It's times like these that there should be a middle finger smiley, really.

Don't worry Bob we can still see you down there, well, sort of...

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 1:36:58 AM   
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Kudos to "the most entertaining league in the World".

Same number of teams left in Europe as the Cypriots in the Champions, Not Quite Champions and Even Really Quite Far From Champions League.

League leaders given yet another lesson in Europe. This Fergie lad needs to have a word with himsel'. That could've been about 75-3 on aggregate.

All those hundreds and millions of dollars... well I've been entertained, I'll say that much.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:55:34 AM   
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Kudos to "the most entertaining league in the World".

Same number of teams left in Europe as the Cypriots in the Champions, Not Quite Champions and Even Really Quite Far From Champions League.

League leaders given yet another lesson in Europe. This Fergie lad needs to have a word with himsel'. That could've been about 75-3 on aggregate.

All those hundreds and millions of dollars... well I've been entertained, I'll say that much.


Hey "Best league in the World" is copyright to sky sports I believe

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 9:59:36 AM   
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Kudos to "the most entertaining league in the World".

Same number of teams left in Europe as the Cypriots in the Champions, Not Quite Champions and Even Really Quite Far From Champions League.

League leaders given yet another lesson in Europe. This Fergie lad needs to have a word with himsel'. That could've been about 75-3 on aggregate.

All those hundreds and millions of dollars... well I've been entertained, I'll say that much.


....and out come the "plate of chips on each shoulder" Scot.

Obviously not mentioning we've actually got the same amount of team left in Europe as the Italians and the French in the Champions, Not Quite Champions and Even Really Quite Far From Champions League. But I suppose that doesn't quite get your todger quiffering quite the same.

Its been a poor season in Europe for the EPL, which is obviously in a bit of a transition over the past couple of seasons with Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal all rebuilding. Yet we've still got the same number of teams in the quarter final of the only European tournament anyone aims to win as anyone else, bar Spain, plus Arsenal were extremely unlucky not to put us alongside the Spanish.
Man Utd were certainly outplayed, but the same can't be said for City, they just didn't take the tie seriously enough and have paid the price.





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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 10:27:41 AM   
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Kudos to "the most entertaining league in the World".

Same number of teams left in Europe as the Cypriots in the Champions, Not Quite Champions and Even Really Quite Far From Champions League.

League leaders given yet another lesson in Europe. This Fergie lad needs to have a word with himsel'. That could've been about 75-3 on aggregate.

All those hundreds and millions of dollars... well I've been entertained, I'll say that much.


Dollars? I do believe Ferguson pays for his players in pounds, which yes may then be exchanged into Euros, but I don't think he's ever payed for anyone in dollars. He also hasn't really spent any money recently, with the exception of Javier Hernandez, which was the last United player signed to top £10 million?

Granted, it's been a poor season for EPL clubs in Europe, although once again we keep our record of at least one English club making the QFs of the CL, that's not all bad. I don't know how reflective that is of the standard of EPL football, I guess maybe we wait till next season and how they get on to find out if it was a blip or is about to become a running trend.



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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 12:46:10 PM   
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A spirited riposte chaps.

Chips, in relation to having one on a shoulder, is in reference to timber thievery. Nae fried tatties. Cocks quiver with pleasure. Is a quiffer someone who styles men's hair?

Dollars? Universal currency innit. Many of the EPL clubs owned by Englishmen are they?

My reference to the hundreds and millions spent concerned "the most entertaining league in the world" as whole. Ne'er a transfer window "slams shut" without Murdoch's minions creaming themselves over the ludicrous pile of money spent.

Also, how much did Fergie spend on that liability of a 'keeper? Or Young? Or Jones? Or the Portuguese homeless lad who's nae seen the light of day... £7m was it not? What about Rooney's tantrum earning him another £100k-ish a week last season?

Entertaining.



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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 1:07:39 PM   
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Dollars? Universal currency innit. Many of the EPL clubs owned by Englishmen are they?


If you include the Taffs at Swansea, half are wholly or jointly owned domestically.

I don't really care about how English clubs do in Europe really, it doesn't affect me or my club in the slightest so it's just an mildly entertaining but ultimately pointless sideshow to me. Just like Scottish football.


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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 1:12:08 PM   
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Scottish football? When did that happen?

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 1:37:58 PM   
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Dollars? Universal currency innit. Many of the EPL clubs owned by Englishmen are they?


No, but given they're mainly trading with the clubs on the continent I'd say the currency being shifted is either Euros or pounds, not dollars.

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Also, how much did Fergie spend on that liability of a 'keeper? Or Young? Or Jones? Or the Portuguese homeless lad who's nae seen the light of day... £7m was it not? What about Rooney's tantrum earning him another £100k-ish a week last season?

Entertaining.


De Gea is getting better with each game. Young was bought the summer, or was it January, before last and is one of United' best players at the moment. Not sure about Jones myself and I have no idea who the "homeless Portugese lad" is. As for Rooney, he can be right shit no question, but United have won a fair few trophies since Rooney arrived I believe.

I don't especially like Fergie or United, but I wouldn't write them off as a team that isn't capable of conquering Europe again in the future. Ferguson has proved time and time again what he is capable of and frankly, if Barcelona hadn't existed, I'm sure United would have since won another Champions League. Oh no wait, they have, they beat Chelsea didn't they...

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 1:44:01 PM   
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I don't especially like Fergie or United, but I wouldn't write them off as a team that isn't capable of conquering Europe again in the future. Ferguson has proved time and time again what he is capable of and frankly, if Barcelona hadn't existed, I'm sure United would have since won another Champions League. Oh no wait, they have, they beat Chelsea didn't they...


They never recovered from finishing bottom of their CL group in 05/06 did they...

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:00:16 PM   
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I don't especially like Fergie or United, but I wouldn't write them off as a team that isn't capable of conquering Europe again in the future. Ferguson has proved time and time again what he is capable of and frankly, if Barcelona hadn't existed, I'm sure United would have since won another Champions League. Oh no wait, they have, they beat Chelsea didn't they...


They never recovered from finishing bottom of their CL group in 05/06 did they...


No, that's true, but I don't see United not being in the running next season for anything. As much as this has been far from their best year yet they are still at the top of the PL and currently on course to collect their 20th league title. Things aren't that bad in the red side of Manchester!

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:03:32 PM   
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I have no idea who the "homeless Portugese lad" is


Neither did Fergie before he bought him

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:12:51 PM   
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Dollars? Universal currency innit. Many of the EPL clubs owned by Englishmen are they?


If you include the Taffs at Swansea, half are wholly or jointly owned domestically.

I don't really care about how English clubs do in Europe really, it doesn't affect me or my club in the slightest so it's just an mildly entertaining but ultimately pointless sideshow to me. Just like Scottish football.



Wales in England now is it?

Half. Impressive. The EPL should be the PLE, Premier League in England. Not really English is it.

That's affa generous min. I'd class Scottish fitba as occasionally entertaining, definitely pointless and a freakshow. But then we get what we pay for, does the PLE?

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:19:36 PM   
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Scottish football? When did that happen?


Earliest documented evidence suggests 1320s. An English chronicle notes Scottish raiders kicking around the heads of Englishmen.

Medieval Church statues banned the playing of fitba on church land and on Sundays.

The king - one of the Jameses, I forget which - banned fitba (and golf) because he'd rather Scots practived their archery. Something about inducing riots too which I find hard to believe.

Mary Queen of Scots played a bit.

The Earliest evidence of organised fitba anywhere in the World is in a book written by a teacher at Aberdeen Grammar School in 1633.

Then 200 and odd years later the English created a football beaurocracy. Well done.



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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:26:16 PM   
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I don't know if you can lump together "entertaining domestic league" with "performance in the CL" quite so easily.

My memory fades as I get older, but I think this has been a better season in the PL, i.e. more entertaining games, than a few seasons ago when the teams were getting 3 or 4 spots in the CL quarter finals.

Apoel Nicosia might have made the CL QF but by gawd the few times I flicked over the their second leg and watched a couple of mintues it was not good football.

Athletic Bilbao mullered Utd (twice) but are only 7th in their league and in the final of the Copa del Rey. Does this say as much about them as Utd? Are they a dud in week in week out league performances, but can get themselves up for the more occasional cup games?

I think we also know that spending and wages in the PL are just because they are there. I can't even comprehend them any more. I hear that Arsenal have to break the 100K a week wage cap. I'm sorry lads, but that's an amount of money that I just can't tally with my life. And so when it goes from there to Rooney getting a 100K a week pay rise or RvP supposedly being offered around 210K a week to go to City, it all becomes huge numbers that I can't comprehend. All as meaningless to me as each other. Stephen Ireland apparently gets 80K a week for not even having to kick a football that often. Just numbers with too many zeroes after them to mean anything to me.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:35:39 PM   
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So define the best/entertaining league in the world? Can it be done?

Not La Liga surely? One team ten points ahead of the second placed team who are the "best team in the world" and the a further 25 or so to the third place team. All teams play exactly the same way to varying degrees of success depending on how good their players are. Yep there's competitiveness for you.

The talent is far more spread across the teams in the EPL and teams play very differently, hence a more entertaining and better league

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:36:07 PM   
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Dollars? Universal currency innit. Many of the EPL clubs owned by Englishmen are they?


No, but given they're mainly trading with the clubs on the continent I'd say the currency being shifted is either Euros or pounds, not dollars.


Nah min. Aussie dollars. Cracking exchange rate. Rupert likes the colours too.

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Also, how much did Fergie spend on that liability of a 'keeper? Or Young? Or Jones? Or the Portuguese homeless lad who's nae seen the light of day... £7m was it not? What about Rooney's tantrum earning him another £100k-ish a week last season?

Entertaining.


De Gea is getting better with each game. Young was bought the summer, or was it January, before last and is one of United' best players at the moment. Not sure about Jones myself and I have no idea who the "homeless Portugese lad" is. As for Rooney, he can be right shit no question, but United have won a fair few trophies since Rooney arrived I believe.

I don't especially like Fergie or United, but I wouldn't write them off as a team that isn't capable of conquering Europe again in the future. Ferguson has proved time and time again what he is capable of and frankly, if Barcelona hadn't existed, I'm sure United would have since won another Champions League. Oh no wait, they have, they beat Chelsea didn't they...


What's whether they're any good got to do with how many dollars he shelled out?

Ferguson, in 25 years at Utd has won 3 proper European trophies. He's proved that 88% of the time he'll conquer diddly squat. I'll write this team off. This team got schooled by Bilbao, got a fitba lesson from Ajax at home, lost a 3 goal lead to a team Bayern humped 7-0, it's got Johnny Evans in it, had to get a 47 year old ginger out of retirement 'cos their midfield is as much use as an argument that includes an absent Barca...

If, if, if... if Aberdeen had won more European trophies then we'd have won more European trophies. Meaningless.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 2:50:46 PM   
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I don't especially like Fergie or United, but I wouldn't write them off as a team that isn't capable of conquering Europe again in the future. Ferguson has proved time and time again what he is capable of and frankly, if Barcelona hadn't existed, I'm sure United would have since won another Champions League. Oh no wait, they have, they beat Chelsea didn't they...


They never recovered from finishing bottom of their CL group in 05/06 did they...


No, that's true, but I don't see United not being in the running next season for anything. As much as this has been far from their best year yet they are still at the top of the PL and currently on course to collect their 20th league title. Things aren't that bad in the red side of Manchester!


That's kind of my point. 2 years after finishing bottom of their group in the CL they won the damn thing. The odd seasonal blip means fuck all - like economics or climate it's the overall trend that's important. The trend is that English clubs routinely do very well in Europe.

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Wales in England now is it?

Half. Impressive. The EPL should be the PLE, Premier League in England. Not really English is it.


Fair enough, we'll discount Swansea and their Welsh owners then (despite the fact that if Reading had been promoted rather than Swansea it would be an English-owned club in their place).

English owned PL clubs:
Spurs
Wolves
West Brom
Bolton
Everton
Newcastle
Wigan
Stoke

PL clubs with joint/minority English ownership:
Norwich
Arsenal

I'm not really sure why it matters, to be honest. I'm not offended by foreign ownership as long as it's responsible. Responsible ownership... that's the key.







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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 3:16:09 PM   
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So bridesmaids and cannon fodder are English owned. The clubs that win stuff - in England and only very occasionally in the big pool - are the play things and investment opportunities of the mega rich.

Yaaas, another "if". I love ifs. If England hadn't let in 4 goals against Germany then they'd have got humped by someone else instead. If Scotland had footballers we'd have a really good football team.

Matter? Of course it doesn't matter, football doesn't matter. I just like noting how few Englishmen are involved in making the EPL brand even remotely close to what it's flogged as.

Teams from England routinely fail to win European trophies.

Since the EPL became the EPL rather than the old money 1st Division in, what 1991? Maybe 3 Cup Winners Cups, 1 UEFA Cup, 3 CLs. Out of must be over 50 trophies in that time (canna remember when the ECWC died). The Spanish make that look pathetic. Italians probably have more, maybe even ze Germans. Poor showing. All that money, 6 or 7 trophies. Pretty entertaining.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 3:26:19 PM   
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So bridesmaids and cannon fodder are English owned. The clubs that win stuff - in England and only very occasionally in the big pool - are the play things and investment opportunities of the mega rich.


Clubs that are routinely successful and win things do so because they have more money than the others. Whether the ownership is foreign or otherwise, wealth is what dictates success. It's why Blackburn were able to succeed, and Arsenal, and Utd, and now (as is possible) Citeh too. It's why Liverpool, Spurs and Leeds have been/were able to mount serious title and European campaigns at various stages. No-one gave a fuck about club ownership until the PL was formed because there was hardly any money in the game by comparison. Sky also succeeded in pimping out the PL around the world making it (whether you like it or not), an enormously popular and glamorous product. If (there's that word again) the SPL were hugely popular and successful (stop laughing at the back), you can be sure that more Scottish clubs would be foreign owned.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:42:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Scott_

Scottish football? When did that happen?


The passing game, invented by Scots, perfected by the Spanish to the cost of the English.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:45:59 PM   
Saltire


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ORIGINAL: Skiba

So define the best/entertaining league in the world? Can it be done?

Not La Liga surely? One team ten points ahead of the second placed team who are the "best team in the world" and the a further 25 or so to the third place team. All teams play exactly the same way to varying degrees of success depending on how good their players are. Yep there's competitiveness for you.

The talent is far more spread across the teams in the EPL and teams play very differently, hence a more entertaining and better league


Put the Germans into your argument then. Strong league, good football, entertainment, good value for the supporters and low costs and they are all German-owned. Also they are still in the mix in Europe also, a damn fine league if you ask me.

< Message edited by Saltire -- 16/3/2012 8:48:50 PM >

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:46:57 PM   
Keyser Sozzled


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I'm not sure any Scottish football fan can really talk about ownership issues.....

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I have no idea who any of them are, apart from Terry Pratchett who I know has got a beard and keeps going on about killing himself but never does.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:50:04 PM   
superdan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Saltire

Put the Germans into your argument then. Strong league, good football, entertainment, good value for the supporters and low costs. Also they are still in the mix in Europe also, a damn fine league if you ask me.


Not using boaby's criteria. They don't often win European trophies, therefore shit. And Chelsea are still in the mix too.

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RE: Premier League 2011-2012 Results & Discussion - 16/3/2012 8:50:45 PM   
Saltire


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Keyser Sozzled

I'm not sure any Scottish football fan can really talk about ownership issues.....


There has been a few clubs over here that have went bust going for the dream admittedly, but there's a lot more in England that have done it also hence I'm unsure of the point of your argument mate.

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