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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 12:56:04 AM   
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I think it's really odd that you're done with comic book movies because you hated The Green Lantern. But to each their own, I suppose.

I'm praying for Stallone to appear in a comic book movie so I can watch you back-peddle on this.



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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 1:59:54 AM   
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I think it's really odd that you're done with comic book movies because you hated The Green Lantern. But to each their own, I suppose.

I'm praying for Stallone to appear in a comic book movie so I can watch you back-peddle on this.


His new film with Walter Hill is based on a graphic novel :D

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 3:25:31 AM   
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He's over the hill now so Dredd will have to do



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Ryan Reynolds - 19/6/2011 7:50:19 AM   
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Am I the only person out there who doesn't think that golden sunbeams of greatness shine out of Ryan Reynolds' arse!? I find him deeply irritating in films that he's in.

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Ryan Reynolds - 19/6/2011 7:51:49 AM   
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Am I the only person out there who doesn't think that golden sunbeams of greatness shine out of Ryan Reynolds' arse!? I find him deeply irritating in films that he's in.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 9:08:04 AM   
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Also Blake Lively gave all the screen presence of a cardboard box.




Absolutely. A Cardboard Box that had been peed on by a crack addict.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 9:12:35 AM   
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 Yes, I am aware that JUDGE DREDD is not generally held in high regard. I personally think it's not one of Sly's best but at least I was entertained when I first saw it at the cinema back in 1995 - I felt I got my money's worth and although it didn't follow the comic book correctly, it certainly fulfilled it's remit of a Summer Blockbuster. Green Lantern held as many thrills as an average Thursday Evening Sc-Fi Channel special. And in terms of BULLET TO THE HEAD a.k.a. HEADSHOT - it is based on a Graphic Novel but it's not a 'superhero' story.

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RE: Ryan Reynolds - 19/6/2011 10:53:18 AM   
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Am I the only person out there who doesn't think that golden sunbeams of greatness shine out of Ryan Reynolds' arse!? I find him deeply irritating in films that he's in.


Nope, I'm pretty sure you're not the only person out there who doesn't like Reynolds. In fact nowdays, from what I read online, it seems more rare for someone to admit that they do actually like the guy.
Personally, I don't mind him in the vast majority of his stuff. (Even though Hannibal King did ruin the Blade films almost single handedly)

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RE: Ryan Reynolds - 19/6/2011 1:22:55 PM   
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 Dreadful, just dreadful. Basically, nothing happens. Some special effects have a chat, then some people have a chat, then one of them becomes a special effect and has a chat with some other special effects then he goes back to being a person, has a chat with some people (occasionally as a special effect) then an action scene that makes no sense happens, everyone chats a bit and the film ends.

The 3D was good though.

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RE: Ryan Reynolds - 19/6/2011 1:23:14 PM   
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 He was great in Wolverine.

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Good and bad and good - 19/6/2011 3:10:08 PM   
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Saw this at midnight showing and I didn't feel bored or tired by the end of it. Maybe I was buzzing anyway, but despite large elements orapness GL is entertaining!
First to the crapness:
1. Ryan Reynolds. Bad actor, miscasted. I don't remember the Hal Jordan character being an asshole in the comic books. A nobler, straighter approach would have been better.
2. The script. Hell, even Tim Robbins was fluff.
3. Hector Hammond. WTF was the point of this character?

The good stuff:
1. Special effects, done in a sort of retro 1950s sci-fi vibe - very fun.
2. Parallax - actually a pretty scary villain.
3. Mark Strong as Sinestro - the only actor in the movie giving it 100%.

All in all, enjoyable despite the crap bits. A missed opportunity for sure, but harmless fun.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 4:30:39 PM   
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He's over the hill now so Dredd will have to do



It was nice knowing you, Lang.



Does that mean i can join the darkside now....

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One lantern - no light - 19/6/2011 6:45:37 PM   
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Firstly, Empire the 5 star review system is archaic and is not accurate enough to let a viewer know how good or bad a film is. it's one thing to disagree over a review but banding films in 5 categories is the reason why so often empire go back and change marks or give reviews to films that are bad but share Marks with films that are good. Go IGN 10.0 system or just written. Green Lantern had flashes of greatness (Oa, training scenes, final fight with parallax) some nice flourishes with the eye colour change and energy running through the suit, but so often the film kept us watching Hal moan on earth about whether or not he should be a lantern. Nothing on Earth was of interest or connected emotionally, Carol Ferris, Hector Hammond, Hals roomate..nothing. Should of been a fish out of water space opera a kin to star wars with Hal as Luke. Learning the ways of the lantern and saving Earth. Let down and another bash to DC's roster while Marvel blossom with am ever growing world, crossovers and sequels. We won't be seeing any second tier DC characters for a while...poor Ryan.

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RE: One lantern - no light - 19/6/2011 8:11:51 PM   
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 The only reason Wolverine is a worse film is because Wolverine had three films of build up previous.

What a shitty, shitty movie.


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This isn't Bond but its better than X-men. - 19/6/2011 9:06:52 PM   
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Its amazing this guy directed Casino Royale, this is good nothing more nothing less, the long running time made me want to fall asleep at times. But Blake Lively kept me awake.
Sorry all you nerds out there who the fuck is Hal Jordan, an asshole? a hero? a fucking twat? The answer? He's all three.
Hector Hammond was probably the most useless villain ever, Peter Saarsgard does his best and Mark Strongs booming metallic voice is easily recognisable but I feel I must talk of the crap.
1. Barely any action. 2. underused co-characters. 3. bad villian 4. dominated by cgi. 5. why oh why did Tim Robbins have to die.
Ever since Shawshank redemption he seems so nice to me.
Thor a recent disapointment was good, this is ok. Thor was better but this lacked light. Blake Lively as beatiful as she is such a great actor, why was she underused then!
This is a good film but I would only recomend this to nerds.
And Peter saarsgard screams like a fucking girl.
And once again who the fuck is Hal Jordan.
What the fuck is this movie. Good bad? Both.

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Went expecting a awful film... - 20/6/2011 9:01:56 AM   
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...and both myself and my g/f enjoyed it. Honest. Like Xmen :First Class, it feels rushed, not all of it works, it badly edited, etc. But theres some fun to be had if you are willing to suspend disbelief. The 3rd act was actually quite exiting. Better than Ghost Rider, Daredeveil or The Fantstic Fours but certainly no Spiderman 2/X2.

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Went expecting a awful film... - 20/6/2011 9:01:59 AM   
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...and both myself and my g/f enjoyed it. Honest. Like Xmen :First Class, it feels rushed, not all of it works, it badly edited, etc. But theres some fun to be had if you are willing to suspend disbelief. The 3rd act was actually quite exiting. Better than Ghost Rider, Daredeveil or The Fantstic Fours but certainly no Spiderman 2/X2.

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Better than the reviews... - 20/6/2011 9:40:32 AM   
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For me it was an entertaining and fun film and markedly better than the reviews give it credit for. Of course there are issues (script is weak, Lively's character has pretty much zero development, lack of a truly menacing villain and editing / pacing is off) but I thought Reynolds was great they were pretty true to the mythos of the character and the world.

It's not perfect but I thoroughly enjoyed it and would happily stand in line for part 2 (somewhat unlikely though I'd wager).

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RE: Better than the reviews... - 20/6/2011 10:34:03 AM   
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 Despite minimal expectations from the trailer and the subsequently awful reviews, this wasn't terrible, just completely unexceptional. Its problems are shared with almost every other modern superhero movie of the non-Batman/X-Men variety, in that it's incredibly formulaic and tries to cram way too much mythology into 100 minutes, to the detriment of character and plot. It looks good (very colourful) and the action is okay, but lacks a notable strength to offset its flaws in the same way that Iron Man was carried by Robert Downey Jr. Ryan Reynolds tries his hardest, but the useless script doesn't give him much.

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RE: Better than the reviews... - 20/6/2011 10:34:40 AM   
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 Well nowdays it doesn't seem to matter what the reviews say as it still opened at $52million in the US???
Also does anyone else read the Daily Star on Fridays I borrow it off my mate just 2C Alan Frank's BIZZARE reviews this week GREEN LANTERN 10/10 W.T.F!!!.

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RE: Better than the reviews... - 20/6/2011 11:58:30 AM   
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I rather enjoyed it, had completely forgotton about it by the time I'd got to the car mind you, but for the 105 minutes it was on I can't say I was ever bored or struck with any thoughts about how awful it was, in fact I thought it was quite fun. It's completely throwaway, but I guess that's also it's biggest problem. Had they fleshed out the characters some more and thrown an extra set-piece in this could have been a little more special, Reynolds and co aren't really given a whole lot to work with unfortunately.

A long way from being great, but far from awful also. Enjoyable toss.

3/5



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RE: Better than the reviews... - 20/6/2011 12:12:58 PM   
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I was very disappointed by the film - though in contrast to a lot of opinion I actually enjoyed Saarsgard as Hector Hammond (you can read my full review here).

The feeling I was left with at the end of the film though, and this is true of a lot of mega-budget blockbusters was really where did the time go in the film with regards to (a) telling a story and (b) including interesting set-pieces, I mean the film was around about the same running time as Raiders of the Lost Ark (a high watermark I know, but it makes my point well), now, break that film down into set-pieces and you've got the opening temple, the fight in the bar in Nepal, the chase around the Cairo streets, escape from the Well of Souls, the flying wing fist fight, Indy on the truck convoy and the finale when they open the ark. Not only that but you've got a good plot, a lot of back story, interesting characters and a sense of atmosphere all wrapped up in a similar time frame.

So, how the heck do you squander 113 minutes on a film as devoid of incident as this, especially when the budget is around $200million which means each minute of the film cost $1,769,911 ($73,746 a frame!).

Sigh...

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It did it justice - 20/6/2011 1:32:32 PM   
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I'm a fan of the Green Lantern series and, while the norm here is to criticise the film industry for "Not doing it properly," I am going to go out on a limb and say that it did it justice.

As the review states, GL is one of DC Comics second tier heroes. This basically means that the majority of cinema goers aren't going to know the story like they do Batman or Superman... but lets be honest, how many cinema goers know the true story of those two other than what we've seen on film? Did anyone who loved the films in the 90's really know how dark Batman gets in the comics? I think those that say yes to that will be in the minority. It's no secret that comics are read by a small percentage of people and stories like Green Lantern are read by an even smaller number.

With that in mind, they could only make two films. One, that is accurate and has a story line that would appease real GL fans like myself. But that kind of film would not get the budget needed to look as spectacular as it did and just would not make the kind of money that it will do. While it may not make profit, it's closer than if this had been a low budget affair. Instead, the gloss of CGI and Star Power was plastered all over it and Ryan Reynolds did a good job of playing Hal Jordan... even if he was less serious than his illustrated counterpart. In actual fact, I enjoyed this take on Jordan... his attitude in the comics can, at times, be a little depressing.

I can criticise the very bad final battle with the ultimate force. The very fact that it lasted a little longer than five minutes, with very little 'fighting' happening in those five minutes, makes you wonder how tough some boxers are to keep their fights going for half an hour without superpowers. I can criticise the use of Hal's best friend who perhaps had the least screen time of anybody who can be considered a supporting actor. But all in all, I was entertained and I listened to the usual chirping from my fellow cinema-goers

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RE: It did it justice - 20/6/2011 2:18:17 PM   
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 Saw it last night and i enjoyed it.Wasnt looking forward to it really but it was a decent time waster.Some good fx,action,and humour.Mark Strong is easily the best actor in it and if there is a sequel they should really use him as the main villain.I didnt think Reynolds was as annoying as usual and kept his usual schtick to a minimum.Lively is a very dull actress though(as someone else has mentioned,its ironic given her last name!)

A solid 3 stars from me.


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RE: It did it justice - 20/6/2011 2:19:41 PM   
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 The scene after the credits makes literally no sense given all that we have just watched.

It is there for fanboys and is another example of how lazy and inept the whole picture was.

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RE: It did it justice - 20/6/2011 2:33:52 PM   
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The scene after the credits makes literally no sense given all that we have just watched.

It is there for fanboys and is another example of how lazy and inept the whole picture was.


Spoilers for the credits scene.







I understand where you're coming from and it's certainly a nod to the fans. However, it's barely 15 seconds long as is only a glimpse of what might happen. It doesn't constitute an entire character arc nor contradicts what's gone before it and can easily be explained by some good writing in part 2...which we may not get (both the good writing and the sequel)!

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RE: It did it justice - 20/6/2011 2:35:18 PM   
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 Actully even in the context of the film it doesn't make any sense.

Hal proved that it wasn't needed. That was the arc.

Those last 15 seconds undermined that whole subplot.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 20/6/2011 7:02:11 PM   
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I enjoyed it and do agree, it seems to be getting some unfair bashing especially on the back of a very lackluster and mundane X-Men 1st Class and a entertaining Thor.

Green Lantern was also going to be a tough property to get right, I felt tonally and visually it did a bang up job. It felt like a big Sci-Fi serial B-Movie of the Dan Dare/Flash Gordon-kind where a lot of imagination is put into creating a world of weird looking aliens and galactic war fare. It never took itself seriously, clearly aimed at younger audiences, and Campbell can pull out well done action scene that you can actually make out what is going on.

Reynolds has taken a bit of stick by playing Hal which again I find a tad unfair. He's fun and charismatic and carries the film of that scale rather well.

It did seem to me to follow that Superman The Movie model of spending a while introducing a world, characters etc before actually adding a villain the protagonist can get to grips with late on. It doesnt really create a massive amount of conflict even with the ever-present death cloud that swamps the entire film looming large not carrying that big of a dangerous threat.

But, that aside, I was more interested in the world and aliens the Lantern's were based on and found that side of the movie quite imaginative and fun engaging me into another world on screen.

Its not overly deep and the development is limited to the basic superhero staple. But I think, like Thor, its more about transporting you to another world and enjoying and entertaining 100minutes that you dont have to invest in too much into.

Overall, If you're not sold in the opening 10minutes where narration around guardians of the planets, sectors, funny headed aliens in green suits and a death-cloud come flying at you with a Flash Gordon-inspired logo...the flick isnt going to really appeal to you. Which is why I think this film will split its audience as its not particularly a film that will appeal to mass audience like a Spiderman etc as its a bit too...well....nerdy.

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RE: It did it justice - 20/6/2011 7:12:01 PM   
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 Caught Green Lantern today, and was better than I thought it'd be - as GL fan I was heading into the cinema prepared to be let down and hating the film from the outset but I was surprised.

The Good:
The portrayal of Parallax came out better than I'd hoped - Parallax is too hard a character to be portrayed in the way it is in the comics and the writers came up with a suitable way of making the character work.
The CGI was rich to watch, with the Lantern's constructs and Oa being the pick of the crop. However that extra money that was thrown at the CGI department in the last few months before the films release clearly never stretched enough to cover the cost of improving Abin Sur's look or Hal's costume (the neckline and mask are terribly bad).
The final third of the film is a blast, with Reynolds becoming more watchable and likeable as Hal when his home planet is in dire straits.

The Bad:
The film itself, I feel, is too short - the Green Lantern mythology is vast and the opening sequence of the film doesn't do justice in portraying the history of the Green Lantern Corps.
The plot device of the death of Hal's father was severely underused - in the comics Hal's father died a hero diverting his failing fighter jet away from the path of a crowd of onlookers, whereas in the film he's reduced to dying pitifully in an explosion upon starting up his engine - and this should have been given it's own scene post-opening credits rather than be shoddily crammed in as a 15 second flashback 10 minutes after the opening scene.
The casting of Blake Lively was uninspired and she is wooden, and Reynolds is too cocky for the role of Hal and the jokes he often pulls let down the tone of the film - a better director would have made the film far more emotional than it is.

Overall I'd give it 3/5, it's better than the Fantastic Four movies, Ghost Rider and most of the other "2nd tier" superhero films but it doesn't pack the punch of it's recent competitors (namely Thor & X-Men: First Class).

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FLAMIN ECK!!!! - 20/6/2011 7:16:33 PM   
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Hal Jordan has daddy issues (yawn). He also has an unconvincing romance with his on/off love interest Carol Ferris (yawn). He's also lumbered with an unconvincing comic side kick (yawn).
Green Lantern is a great film - if you're a hyperactive five year old overdosing on ritalin. It's a great film if you like lazy plotting, crap editing and incoherent brightly coloured SFX - and it's also great if you're a committed Ryan Reynolds groupie .........other wise.....
RUN AWAY!!!
THEY SHOULD HAVE SET THIS FIRST FILM ENTIRELY IN OUTER SPACE RATHER THAN BOTHER WITH A CRAP EARTHBOUND VILLAIN (Saarsgaard in a bizarre and ultimately pointless performance). 200 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF TALENT AND THIS IS THE BEST GREEN LANTERN FILM THEY COULD COME UP WITH? If they didn't have Supes and Batman - DC really would be up the creek. After Thor and the X Men, this film is a boringly massive step backwards in terms of comic book entertainment - and what GL fan would ever say that of a Green Lantern film?

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