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RE: all you bases are belong to us - 17/6/2011 2:15:56 PM

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Well it's just released today, so unless a few went to the midnight screenings we may have to wait until later tonight.

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RE: all you bases are belong to us - 17/6/2011 3:29:15 PM

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I saw it today, enjoyed some parts (Reynolds, Strong, the constructs), didn't enjoy others (as others have said, the bad guy was pretty weak, the training seemed rushed). I hope it does well enough to warrant a sequel as i think that could be something really good now all the background stuff is out of the way, but this felt to me, as other origin stories have, all set up with no pay off.

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IT'S SHITE.... - 17/6/2011 6:08:08 PM

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Martin Campbell should stick to Bond or Zorro or whatever the hell he does nowdays - cause he sure as fuck hasn't got a clue how to make a decent comic book film. This cinematic clag will surely but the final nails into the coffin of any potential JLA film - mores the pity.
The best thing about Green Lantern are those nifty looking posters.
As for the film itself??? Mark Strong at least looks like Sinestro and Oa itself is superbly realised - but all that useless earthbound stuff just sent me to sleep - and worst of all - Ryan Reynolds is horribly miscast. Not for one minute did I believe that he was Hal Jordan or the Green Lantern. The script and plotting needed several more rewrites as well - and the ending? An orgy of half finished crummy looking CGI and choppy editing. There's a lot riding on this film if you're a comic book geek - more if you're a hardcore GL fan. Unfortunately, this lame effort means that unless he's called Superman or Batman - you won't be seeing any more DC heroes on screen for a long while.
1 Star!!!!

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RE: What the...? - 17/6/2011 7:07:48 PM

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I should probably begin by noting that I am a fan of comic books - I've been reading Green Lantern, The Flash, Superman and many marvel titles for years, and in that context, I've put up with a lot of comic book films over the years; this ranges from Dolph Lungdren as the punisher, some random man as Captain America, right the way through to X-men: The last stand. It's important to also state that I've seen a lot of bad films (including love's kitchen yesterday), ad so my understanding and markers for what makes a bad film is somewhat different from many other peoples.

That said...The best of this film, at least from a fan perspective is that Martin Campbell pretty much hit the visualisation of Oa, the Guardians and the characters making up the green lantern stunning faithfulness to the comic in many respects - something that's surprising when you can tell he'd probably just picked up the more recent story lines and gone with it. I will say the biggest crime is the miscasting that this film suffers; Peter Sarsgaard all but phones in his performances, Blake Lively is predictably dull (although, it must be said, not as bad as January Jones - Lively at least has some likeable moments), and the only bright spot is that of Mark Strong and Ryan Reynolds in the respective roles of Sinestro and Hal Jordan.

Reynolds makes a brave effort of bringing passion to the character, but again, it's my opinion as a fan that Brad Cooper or Nathan Fillion would have been a much better fit for the role. There are often some humorous moments which were rewarded with the audience laughing; it's just a shame that the timing and the pacing of the film probably threw most of the audience out - I actually concluded that while Martin Campbell undoubtedly did a superb job with both Casino Royale and Goldeneye, Comic book films simply aren't in his repertoire...I've always thought that irrespective of genre, in order to succeed in any given genre as a writer or director, you have to have a passion and love for said genre - something which is painfully lacking here.

I would have to say that after seeing Thor, this comes in as a poor second, which is a shame - all in all, I suspect the truth is that the film has suffered from having a timetable, and could have done with a christmas, or even summer 2012 opening so that pre and post production could have benefited from additional polish to the script and additional CGI enhancement.

Oh. Don't bother with 3D.

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RE: Green Lantern - 17/6/2011 7:44:07 PM

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just came in from seeing it now and i don't understand why the reviews are so negative. Sure its not perfect, but it is sure as hell better than sucker punch. The main problem i had was the editing. If some of the sequences were rearranged, it would have made a significant improvement.

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RE: all you bases are belong to us - 17/6/2011 9:54:32 PM

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So has anyone seen this and enjoyed it yet? I mean members of the movie going public / empire forumites not critics.

I saw it this aft, and enjoyed it. Never read the books, but I don't see what the problem was. If we're going to be crass I'd put it alongside First Class, but below Thor. 3-stars etc. I'm just writing my review now, will post it in here later.

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What exactly do people expect???!!! - 17/6/2011 10:36:12 PM

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Saw it this morn and I don't know what the rest of you are watching but it damn near hits the mark. Probably the closest comic adaptation ever for my money, and a great origin well done. Far better than Batman And Robin and not as plodding as First Class (though I did enjoy that movie even though it can't decide where it should or even if it wants to, fit in with the other X films). I would say its level with Thor for me but slightly edges it 'cos GL is one of my fave heroes. Yeah a couple of characters are phoned in but it doesn't really detract from the whole, and I thought RR was a little easier to stomach than the Hal of the comics who can be a self-righteous SOB at times. Oh yeah, stay for the credits 'cos there is a better scene than any of the Marvel ones!

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What exactly do people expect???!!! - 17/6/2011 10:38:17 PM

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RE: What exactly do people expect???!!! - 18/6/2011 1:28:31 AM

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Green Lantern - Not bad, just kind of dull really. The CGI suit was fine, it was the lack of a decent villain, uneven plotting and uncompelling characters that were its downfall.

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RE: What exactly do people expect???!!! - 18/6/2011 1:53:48 AM

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Copy and paste of my review. I liked it, thought it was inoffensively entertaining. -

MORE BRIGHTEST DAY THAN BLACKEST NIGHT: A REVIEW OF GREEN LANTERN

Growing up, as a 13 year old obsessed with American culture, the pre-digital Hope Lies at 24 Frames Per Second sought solace in a medium then far removed, yet now inherently connected to the movies; the comic-book. Alongside a screening of Martin Scorsese�s Goodfellas at an irresponsibly young age, it wouldn�t be an exaggeration to say that the worlds of Marvel and DC (and to a lesser extent Image) shaped my appetite for narrative fiction in a very important way. Alas, the days of Ben Reilly, multiple Supermen (in the wake of the death of Kal-El) and Heroes Reborn are now looked back on with ridicule and woe, but they still hold a special place in my nostalgia-ridden heart. With that in mind it should be pointed out that one character I was never especially familiar with when growing up was the Green Lantern. His seemed too complicated a story to dive in to, even in those days of revisionism and reboot. So, with that in mind, I looked to this later feature from the movie wing of DC comics with some anticipation. Yes, the trailers looked silly, and yes, early word wasn�t kind on the movie, but I went in with an open mind, and a willingness to be entertained. And entertained I was.

Green Lantern tells the story of an intergalactic corps of protectors, a space police of sorts. Following the death of one particular �lantern� a replacement is found in the shape of Hal Jordan, an irresponsible and cocky young test pilot, who, on the face of it at least, is the complete opposite of all that is demanded of the selfless �lantern� figure that he ought to be. So far, so Tony Stark/Thor/Captain Kirk, but within the context of this form of popcorn entertainment thats not a problem. As Hal comes to terms with who he is and what he has to do the viewer follows him on a journey that takes him across space and through multiple characters, fighting the double foes of fear incarnate (a being named Parallax) and a rogue scientist with a personal connection to our hero. Again, the film hits the bases that one would expect, but it does it with such a knowing nod to its audience that it doesn�t ever seem like an issue. The concept of the superhero disguise is touched on with a referentiality that charms (note the wink to Christian Bale�s gruff Bat-voice), and the world of the Lantern�s, a planet by the vowelly reliant name of �Oa� is suitably impressive in scale and scope, coming across as a more interesting Pandora via the mind of George Lucas.
Performance wise the film works fine. Ryan Reynolds is charming and affable as the reckless Hal, while the traditionally fantastic Peter Sarsgaard is given his first real opportunity to ham it up on-screen as the appropriately named Hector Hammond, and The Town�s Blake Lively makes for a likeable love interest. Supporting turns from Mark Strong, Tim Robbins and the voice of Geoffrey Rush are welcome too.

There are problems with the film. A couple of ill-judged flashbacks complete with poor performances from child actors don�t work at all; they seem ill placed and do little more than shove the already prevalent �daddy issues� subplot down the throat of the viewer, and there are some major issues with plotting, with Hal�s �journey� seeming a little flat in scope at times. As is seemingly the requirement with modern blockbusters, the film also suffers from some questionable CGI, but by and large Green Lantern is an enjoyable comic-book tale of space police and world eating monsters. It won�t change the world, and its hardly essential, but as harmless mainstream cinema goes this is at least interesting, and thats more than can be said of the vast majority of this years blockbuster output thus far.

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RE: What exactly do people expect???!!! - 18/6/2011 9:30:43 AM

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Thought it was average at best & aimed at the childrens market ALA Fantastic 4 for some reason Sinestro (strangly pale?) was just a bit part in it all & as for Parallax WOOOOOOO! i'm a freaking scary cloud with a face in it Pathetic.
Also few things not mentioned 1:Green Lantern's weakness against Yellow i'm not sure if we can count the Sun in on that though? 2:I'm pretty sure The Guardians (for some reason wearing plastic helmets?) didn't create the Yellow ring I think that was a species named The Qwark or something that began with a Q 3: WHAT THE HELL WAS DR? AMANDA WALLER of Suicide Squad fame doing in it. & a mention of the Original G.L Alan scott wouldn't have gone a miss.
On the whole a bit of a let down but after I saw the amount of writers at the end I wasn't suprised I agree The Constructs were really good but even though I really like Reynolds he played the Character of Hal Jordan too much for laughs as in the comics he is a much more serious figure.
On the whole a mediocre 6/10 (& as they're already working on a script let's hope they learn from their mistakes.)

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RE: What exactly do people expect???!!! - 18/6/2011 10:20:39 AM

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5 pages in and I count 3 reviews? Typical fanboys....Poor Kim....

With the war of the multiplexes between Marvel and DC now fully underway, the current battle for bums on seats this silly season looks firmly to be on the side of the former with this rather pitiful entry into the superhero franchise -displaying no signs of troubling the figures the likes of the Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent ventures will undoubtedly tally next year.

Whilst admittedly I don�t hold a great knowledge of the origins of Hal Jordan or of the defenders of the universe his Green Lantern contingent strive to upload, you don�t have to be a comic book fanatic to realise that his first foray onto the big screen doesn�t work at all.

Martin Campbell, a man who has provided a steady and assured hand on the Bond Franchise drops the ball here � either through a lack of passion for the source material or an inability to fully connect with the hacks at Warner and DC. His depiction of Jordan�s universe is bogged down in clich� (a protagonist dealing with a parental issue), plot-holes (the needless introduction and then disposal of Jordan�s family after the first twenty minutes) and predictability (err, everything). It�s a generic and banal piece of work that delivers absolutely nothing that engages or surprises and completely wastes a decent assemble of actors (Saarsgard, Robbins, Bassett, Strong to name a few). Reynolds in particular (unfairly attacked in some quarters of the press for being too much of a gurner and being bland � presumably they never saw Buried?) struggles in selling a sympathetic and believable character with a script as poor as this one. It�s determination to ensure it ticks all the superhero origins boxes results in treating its audience with complete and utter contempt, rushing through every plot point with a profound lack of substance and throwing in lazy exposition virtually every time someone opens their mouth -it�s astonishing that it actually took four people to write this formulae nonsense!

With the arrival of the Dark Knight Rises and the Man of Steel not due to next year it�s clear that Marvel were always going to dominate 2011 with its offerings of Thor, X-men and Captain America; however it would have been nice to have seen another character emerge from the DC stable to the big screen you�d be willing to invest time and interest in other than Batman and Superman. On the evidence of the Green Lantern however, it�d be a huge surprise if the status quo wasn't maintained for another year.

1/5

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I quite enjoyed it. - 18/6/2011 12:11:10 PM

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I wasn't blown away it certainly isn't a Dark Knight but I enjoyed it and the suit looks amazing! Will look great on Blu Ray and I think it'll be like the beginning of the X-men trilogy ok start and once established the sequel will be much better. I also think the critics have been overly harsh on this film but I may have my comic goggles on....

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I quite enjoyed it. - 18/6/2011 12:11:12 PM

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RE: What a totally predictable shame.... - 18/6/2011 1:39:27 PM

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Okay having now watched the film what can I say? It's decidedly average it is neither the worst movie ever made (I mean Batman & Robin exists!) nor is it hardly going to go down in the list of greatest movies ever. The movie main suffering appears to be DC have tried to make Iron Man and well it just doesn't pull of the charm that film had.

Nothing in the movie I found very offensive and most of the acting is fairly solid and effect aren't half-bad either (really don;t see the complaining here it's not Avatar or Tron but I wasn't expecting that).

Personally I'd like to see them try the sequel with a lot more focus of villain and now established characters I do think it has chance to shine. whether Warner's will give it that chance remains to be seen.

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Kim... - 18/6/2011 2:32:40 PM

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"Johnny-come-latelys like Spider-Man and Wolverine" - What a purely stupid comment. Spider-Man was created in 1962, three years after the modern Green Lantern. That's hardly a "Johnny-come-lately" And Wolverine only turned up 15 years after Hal Jordan.

But regardless of that fact, characters like Green Lantern, Martian Man Hunter and The Flash have never 'towered over' Wolverine and Spider-Man. Spider-Man has been on an equal 'awareness ' level as Superman and Batman since the cartoon came out in the 60's.

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RE: Kim... - 18/6/2011 2:52:00 PM

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The Green Lantern character turned up in the 40s not the 60s, though. If you want to compare the 'modern' Green Lantern to Spiderman and Wolverine shouldn't it be to their 'modern' versions rather than their original creation to get like for like?

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RE: Kim... - 18/6/2011 4:32:32 PM

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I gave it two stars.�In comparison I gave X-men 4 stars.

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RE: Green Lantern - 18/6/2011 7:15:35 PM

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Saw it last night and didn't mind it. It's not Catwoman Godawful and it's not quite Fantastic Four shoddy. For me it sits alongside Daredevil and Blade Trinity, watchable, fairly enjoyable in bits, but it's not going to trouble Superman, X2 or TDK up there in the higher ranks of comic book movies.
I like Reynolds, so he was just fine in the lead for me. Sarsgaard brought the OTT hammy goods as Hector Hammond, I wish he had more screentime, as he was one of my highlights. Mark Strong was alright, but again wasn't on screen enough to make a big impression. And Tim Robbins?... I dunno. why he was there.

The effects were largely terrible (Those Guardian thingys were more awful than anything from SW-Ep1) and after all the hoopla, the CG suit was actually one of the better CG creations. And that Helicopter set piece was one of the least thrilling sequences I think I've ever watched.
But even with those negatives, I was still mildly entertained throughout. Some of the action scenes did work, and the Green Lantern mythos itself was 'out there' enough to make the film stand out from other comic book flicks

3/5. Just.

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GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 8:24:10 PM

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I watched GREEN LANTERN earlier today. I will NEVER see another Superhero Film at the cinema again for the rest of my Life. Marvel, DC, Dark Horse... Solson, I don't care. It's over. The best superhero features are ANIMATED versions. Or Tim Burton's 1989 BATMAN and the two HELLBOY films, that's all.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 10:08:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

I watched GREEN LANTERN earlier today. I will NEVER see another Superhero Film at the cinema again for the rest of my Life. Marvel, DC, Dark Horse... Solson, I don't care. It's over. The best superhero features are ANIMATED versions. Or Tim Burton's 1989 BATMAN and the two HELLBOY films, that's all.

Yes because the quality of Green Lantern is going to be reflected in superhero films for years to come.

Stop being so ridiculous.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 10:36:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: BatFan

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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

I watched GREEN LANTERN earlier today. I will NEVER see another Superhero Film at the cinema again for the rest of my Life. Marvel, DC, Dark Horse... Solson, I don't care. It's over. The best superhero features are ANIMATED versions. Or Tim Burton's 1989 BATMAN and the two HELLBOY films, that's all.

Yes because the quality of Green Lantern is going to be reflected in superhero films for years to come.

Stop being so ridiculous.

Not being ridiculous. Just saying that I'm a bit bored of the 'conveyor belt' of superhero based films that are being churned out.

p.s. have fun when yer Dark Knight Rises won't you?

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 10:49:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

quote:

ORIGINAL: BatFan

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ORIGINAL: Snake-Eyes

I watched GREEN LANTERN earlier today. I will NEVER see another Superhero Film at the cinema again for the rest of my Life. Marvel, DC, Dark Horse... Solson, I don't care. It's over. The best superhero features are ANIMATED versions. Or Tim Burton's 1989 BATMAN and the two HELLBOY films, that's all.

Yes because the quality of Green Lantern is going to be reflected in superhero films for years to come.

Stop being so ridiculous.

Not being ridiculous. Just saying that I'm a bit bored of the 'conveyor belt' of superhero based films that are being churned out.

p.s. have fun when yer Dark Knight Rises won't you?

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 10:50:59 PM

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Troll? Who, me or him v? Like I give a fuck anymore.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 10:52:21 PM

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Troll? Who, me or him v? Like I give a fuck anymore.

I meant myself, sorry should have been more clear.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 11:00:05 PM

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Troll? Who, me or him v? Like I give a fuck anymore.

I meant myself, sorry should have been more clear.

Oh ok, sorry dude. My point here was that I didn't enjoy this film as much as I was really looking forward to it. I'm a fan of the comics (recently re-read the 'Rebirth' trade) but superhero films weren't really milking my cow recently but I thought I'd give GL the benefit of the doubt. Even so, my fears were confirmed. In advance, I'm avoiding CAPTAIN AMERICA, TRANSFORMERS: ALMOST THE NAME OF A PINK FLOYD ALBUM, DARK BALE GRUNTS LOUDER: TOM HARDY JOINS IN, THE AVENGERS, THE SPIDER-MAN FILM THAT WILL NO DOUBT GAIN SOME SORT OF QUIRKY MAGAZINE ARTICLE TITLE BECAUSE OF THE NEW DIRECTOR'S NAME, GHOST RIDER 2: CAGE - WTF?!, MAN OF SNYDER'S CG-SOAKED, SLOW-MO INFATUATIONS and whatever the hell else gets added to the roster.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 11:25:31 PM

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I think it's really odd that you're done with comic book movies because you hated The Green Lantern. But to each their own, I suppose.

I'm praying for Stallone to appear in a comic book movie so I can watch you back-peddle on this.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 18/6/2011 11:30:17 PM

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I saw this a short while ago.

Generally I was entertained, which is all I ask for from a film nowadays. there is no way this is going to be classed as a great film but it was a diverting way to pass an hour and a half.

The flaws: the story seemed rushed, the villain was lightweight, the love interest was extremely two dimensional, some of the CGI was very dodgy. The benefits: a decent, charismatic performance from Ryan Reynolds, nice lipgloss for Blake Lively, the CGI suit worked quite well rather than being the abomination it appeared to be on the trailers, I managed to see a 2d screening rather than 3d.

The main problem was it lacked decent action and when there were action sequences they tended to end very quickly.

Also Blake Lively gave all the screen presence of a cardboard box.

I would say a very average 3 stars.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 12:53:45 AM

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I think it's really odd that you're done with comic book movies because you hated The Green Lantern. But to each their own, I suppose.

I'm praying for Stallone to appear in a comic book movie so I can watch you back-peddle on this.

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RE: GREEN LANTERN - 19/6/2011 12:54:49 AM

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I think it's really odd that you're done with comic book movies because you hated The Green Lantern. But to each their own, I suppose.

I'm praying for Stallone to appear in a comic book movie so I can watch you back-peddle on this.

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