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RE: The Return Of The Video Nasty - 16/6/2011 1:26:22 PM   
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the delay in releasing Reservoir Dogs because of it's extreme violence, which whilst violent in very few scenes, is nowhere near as violent as recent releases such as 'Machete' or the last 'Rambo' film.


The Reservoir Dogs delay was actually down to new legislation passed by the then government (albeit legislation that James "Booooo" Ferman helped draw up) - the BBFC had actually already given it an 18 with no cuts when it was first submitted for home video release, but they could not legally allow it to be released until it had gone through the mill of the new legislation.

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However, the BBFC allowed the release of 'A Serbian Film' last year with over 4 minutes removed from it. I'd rather not reveal the plot (and again nor have I seen it nor have any desire too) but when you compare this to 'The Human Centipede 2', I see little or no difference between the two films. In fact, A Serbian Film would be the one of the two I'd least like to see.


I think the point there is that A Serbian Film is actually a serious commentary on the misfortunes of an oppressed country. Since Ferman left, the BBFC have always been kind and easy on films that make a serious point, regardless of how extreme they are. The problem with A Serbian Film (having read an in depth synopsis) is that several scenes break UK law, hence their removal. I daresay that, in this case, the BBFC would actually probably prefer to release the film fully uncut, but UK law prevents them from doing so. Now, with HC2, I don't think anyone is under any illusion that it's just an extreme horror film with not much to say on anything, other than showing what can be done with special effects to make things look proper real and nasty (Tom Six has pretty much admitted this himself). Now that argument is obviously slightly skewed when you throw the likes of Saw and Hostel into the mix - until someone on this forum sees HC2 uncut, I guess we can't really say what the difference there is.

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gaining access to it will be as easy as watching the latest reality star's racy home video or seeing which pop star has been hoovering some of Persia's finest up their nose.


This is exactly why HC2 will not gather the same mythology as the likes of Clockwork Orange (remember - that one was down to Kubrick himself), The Exorcist, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cannibal Holocaust. Because anyone will be able to buy HC2 fully uncut quite legally from another country in, probably, a few months, the fuss will quickly die down.

And then one or more forum members will see it, probably say it's shit, and we'll all carry on.

With torture porn still coming out and being okayed by the BBFC without cuts and Kick-Ass being given only a 15 (with the BBFC slapping down most complaints about it as sheer idiocy), I think it's unfair to say that we are in the early stages of Ferman Mk2.

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RE: The Return Of The Video Nasty - 16/6/2011 1:59:39 PM   
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 In reference to : gaining access to it will be as easy as watching the latest reality star's racy home video or seeing which pop star has been hoovering some of Persia's finest up their nose.
What are they sniffing in Persia? Rugs? Dates? Pistachios? Where can I get some?

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RE: The Return Of The Video Nasty - 16/6/2011 4:54:13 PM   
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gaining access to it will be as easy as watching the latest reality star's racy home video or seeing which pop star has been hoovering some of Persia's finest up their nose.


This is exactly why HC2 will not gather the same mythology as the likes of Clockwork Orange (remember - that one was down to Kubrick himself), The Exorcist, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cannibal Holocaust. Because anyone will be able to buy HC2 fully uncut quite legally from another country in, probably, a few months, the fuss will quickly die down.

And then one or more forum members will see it, probably say it's shit, and we'll all carry on.



I think more than purchasing an import I think Leightwinst is referring to the easier (and not so legal) option of torrenting. Just having a look right now an there are copies available to download however as the film isn't out yet they're probably fakes. But yes when the film does come out it'll be easier to watch here than going down the shops for a pint of milk.


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RE: The Return Of The Video Nasty - 16/6/2011 5:41:57 PM   
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gaining access to it will be as easy as watching the latest reality star's racy home video or seeing which pop star has been hoovering some of Persia's finest up their nose.


This is exactly why HC2 will not gather the same mythology as the likes of Clockwork Orange (remember - that one was down to Kubrick himself), The Exorcist, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cannibal Holocaust. Because anyone will be able to buy HC2 fully uncut quite legally from another country in, probably, a few months, the fuss will quickly die down.

And then one or more forum members will see it, probably say it's shit, and we'll all carry on.



I think more than purchasing an import I think Leightwinst is referring to the easier (and not so legal) option of torrenting. Just having a look right now an there are copies available to download however as the film isn't out yet they're probably fakes. But yes when the film does come out it'll be easier to watch here than going down the shops for a pint of milk.


Dangerous place Edinburgh, yes? You got zombie tigers roaming the streets or something?

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RE: The Return Of The Video Nasty - 16/6/2011 5:54:38 PM   
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I think more than purchasing an import I think Leightwinst is referring to the easier (and not so legal) option of torrenting. Just having a look right now an there are copies available to download however as the film isn't out yet they're probably fakes. But yes when the film does come out it'll be easier to watch here than going down the shops for a pint of milk.


Dangerous place Edinburgh, yes? You got zombie tigers roaming the streets or something?


Aye we do actually, they're called neds!

Seriously though a few clicks of the mouse and I'd have the film quicker than it would take me to go down the shops. You get the picture.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 25/6/2011 11:27:00 PM   
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( God im gonna sound like my dad now, but here goes..........)
The Human Centerpeed was a piece of shit! Just gross, not a movie.
its not 'art' what ever the fuck that is, and from what iv heard of the sequal sound worst.
It will only appeal to mindless little maggots who put mobile clips of themselves slapping a stranger on a bus
onto youtube.

Fair do's it should be up to people what they want to view but the fact is that kids watch this shit when they are not
old enough and it is pretty sick and may fuck there minds.
These films should be banned from being MADE because obviously banning it now has made it notorious and
people are just gonna download it over the net. Pause for thought people, there has got to be a line at some point
that should not be crossed just for human decency.
The truth is the creater is just out to make money buy putting this shit out, dont let him mug you off by insulting ur
intellegence that this is a 'movie' that is 'art.'
If you let shit like this continue, ask yourself what would be to far? because it will only head that way!

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 25/6/2011 11:58:51 PM   
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The truth is the creater is just out to make money buy putting this shit out, dont let him mug you off by insulting ur
intellegence that this is a 'movie' that is 'art.'


FOR FUCK'S SAKE THAT'S NOT WHAT HE MEANT WITH THE WORD ART


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 26/6/2011 12:39:58 AM   
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It will only appeal to mindless little maggots who put mobile clips of themselves slapping a stranger on a bus
onto youtube.



Yes because anyone who wants to see this movie is total maladjusted scum. Good God, I've never heard such reactionary bullshit in all my life.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 26/6/2011 2:11:41 AM   
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 Didn't this thread die a week ago? Anyway's.


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( God im gonna sound like my dad now, but here goes..........)


Yes you sound just like him actually (says god).
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The Human Centerpeed was a piece of shit! Just gross, not a movie.
its not 'art' what ever the fuck that is, and from what iv heard of the sequal sound worst.


You don't know what Art is? I know, the world is confusing isn't it? Here's some help in deciphering this "Art" thingy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/for-kids.htm

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It will only appeal to mindless little maggots who put mobile clips of themselves slapping a stranger on a bus
onto youtube.


Yes your right, apparently the biggest market for German horror cinema is the Chav and street gang community. Have you ever been to a German horror film festival? Chock full of tracksuits, mobile phones and every screening is accompanied with such high criticism like "Dis film is bangin innit bruv?" and "Can't wait 4 HC free blud!".

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Fair do's it should be up to people what they want to view but the fact is that kids watch this shit when they are not
old enough and it is pretty sick and may fuck there minds.


I watched Robocop when I was eight and that's why I'm writing this from a mental institution.

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These films should be banned from being MADE because obviously banning it now has made it notorious and
people are just gonna download it over the net. Pause for thought people, there has got to be a line at some point
that should not be crossed just for human decency.


Ok I've pressed pause, now what do I do?

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The truth is the creater is just out to make money buy putting this shit out, dont let him mug you off by insulting ur
intellegence that this is a 'movie' that is 'art.'


God directed The Human Centipede???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you let shit like this continue, ask yourself what would be to far? because it will only head that way!


I let a big shit continue earlier today and according to my girlfriend who went in there afterwards "I went too far...".



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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 26/6/2011 8:50:35 AM   
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 I really do not get this arguement that "kids are going to see this shit!"

I mean come on!.......I have the original in my horror collection but its not a film that I am going to chuck on for my little un's doing Sunday Lunch.  If kids are going to download the film, then that suggests they "do know how to download", they "have done it before!" and probably watched "worst shit!" than what HC2 offers.

I be more upset seeing my 10 year old boy sitting around the laptop and watching violent real life porn than seeing a total over the top horror movie which is all fake.  And again I sigh at comments from people who have not seen the original but yet feel free to judge it!

And besides my arguement is that the plot is so far fetched that how can you take it seriously.  The Serbain Film shocked me originally but having wathced it more than once now, the impact is well lost.  The cartoon tone style in some of those scenes are more laughable than horror and  I was more upset with scenes like The Killer Inside Me, which had Alba being brutally beaten to death, a scene that has hardly caused a ripple......

Like the director of HC2 has said "My dear people it is a fucking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief [sic]. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not."...........

I could not agree more with him!

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 26/6/2011 6:26:07 PM   
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I be more upset seeing my 10 year old boy sitting around the laptop and watching violent real life porn


I'm sorry, I should never have sent him the link to that website.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 11:26:16 AM   
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 Spaldron *golf claps* you sarcy bastard! Very droll though. Although I don't think Robocop and HC 1/2 can be comparitivley compared too easily. I gues you think you're pretty smart huh? Think you can outsmart the BBFC? Although you may have gone too far with the poo gag. Time will tell.
And I too had thought this thread had died. PA did a number on me about it before. It won't die though, and one day will become part of the eternity that is mammoth threads have no fear.
I did want to ask, Hughes Ross, you may not be sticking it on straight after CBeebies, but 'kids' will have access to it as the internet is all around us, ooooooh. And I really don't know what 'worse shit' there is out there my friend. My very very sick friend Unless you're referring to Big Momma's House? *shudders*

Still, it was nice to see Dev sticking up for his art. Sorry. Art.

ps- Rawls? Is that and Lindsey Buckingham and John McVey or am I wayyyyyy off base?

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:10:34 PM   
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Don't give a shit how you interpret it's a fucking pointless film.
Your average snuff film watcher would probably think it's just sick.
And YES if you are the type of person to want to watch what i have heard is in the sequal, YOU ARE A FUCKING WEIRDO!

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:18:22 PM   
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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:18:36 PM   
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Don't give a shit how you interpret it's a fucking pointless film.
Your average snuff film watcher would probably think it's just sick.
And YES if you are the type of person to want to watch what i have heard is in the sequal, YOU ARE A FUCKING WEIRDO!


You are too cute.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:19:32 PM   
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And YES if you are the type of person to want to watch what i have heard is in the sequal, YOU ARE A FUCKING WEIRDO!


I feel like I'm on the comments section of The Daily Mail website.

It is possible for a mentally stable person to want to see The Human Centipede 2, y'know.

Obviously this movie isn't your cup of tea, and no-one can fault you for that, but you can't go around accusing people of being weirdos just because they want to see the film and judge it for themselves. Honestly, Richie, you're making yourself sound like a reactionary, judgemental fool.

I mean, by your rationale you could say I'm a weirdo for sitting through Cannibal Holocaust and I would like to think of myself as an even tempered, perfectly sane chap.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:27:52 PM   
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Don't give a shit how you interpret it's a fucking pointless film.
Your average snuff film watcher would probably think it's just sick.
And YES if you are the type of person to want to watch what i have heard is in the sequal, YOU ARE A FUCKING WEIRDO!



You bring so much joy to this thread.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:27:56 PM   
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ps- Rawls? Is that and Lindsey Buckingham and John McVey or am I wayyyyyy off base?


My av'? Springsteen and Clarence Clemons.

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ORIGINAL: richie fingers

Your average snuff film watcher would probably think it's just sick.


The average watcher of these films that probably don't exist, but allegedly contain real murders, would find the fictional rapes and murders in Human Centipede II to be sick?


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:50:56 PM   
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Didn't this thread die a week ago? Anyway's.


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ORIGINAL: richie fingers

( God im gonna sound like my dad now, but here goes..........)


Yes you sound just like him actually (says god).
quote:

The Human Centerpeed was a piece of shit! Just gross, not a movie.
its not 'art' what ever the fuck that is, and from what iv heard of the sequal sound worst.


You don't know what Art is? I know, the world is confusing isn't it? Here's some help in deciphering this "Art" thingy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/for-kids.htm

quote:

It will only appeal to mindless little maggots who put mobile clips of themselves slapping a stranger on a bus
onto youtube.


Yes your right, apparently the biggest market for German horror cinema is the Chav and street gang community. Have you ever been to a German horror film festival? Chock full of tracksuits, mobile phones and every screening is accompanied with such high criticism like "Dis film is bangin innit bruv?" and "Can't wait 4 HC free blud!".

quote:

Fair do's it should be up to people what they want to view but the fact is that kids watch this shit when they are not
old enough and it is pretty sick and may fuck there minds.


I watched Robocop when I was eight and that's why I'm writing this from a mental institution.

quote:

These films should be banned from being MADE because obviously banning it now has made it notorious and
people are just gonna download it over the net. Pause for thought people, there has got to be a line at some point
that should not be crossed just for human decency.


Ok I've pressed pause, now what do I do?

quote:

The truth is the creater is just out to make money buy putting this shit out, dont let him mug you off by insulting ur
intellegence that this is a 'movie' that is 'art.'


God directed The Human Centipede???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quote:

If you let shit like this continue, ask yourself what would be to far? because it will only head that way!


I let a big shit continue earlier today and according to my girlfriend who went in there afterwards "I went too far...".




My mum says i sound like my dad too.

The maker of the film is hidding behind the word 'ART'

This is not Germany this is England, we have higher standards. Just look at German porn!

Now that you have paused, you think. If you are unable please contact your service provider.

Maybe watching Robocop when you were eight has made you want to watch movies about arses being sewn to mouths and swallowing shit, raping of women with barb wire wrapped around the rapist cock (so iv heard about the sequal). i was also about eight when Robocop came out, so it goes to show some children can be affected in different ways.

I say creater because calling the guy directer writter producer whatever, is a fucking insult to people who work in the industry.






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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 7:56:02 PM   
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Was not implying to anyone inperticular. Sorry if i upset anyone. And was not ment in malice.

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 8:01:20 PM   
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It doesn't matter - there are clearly people on the thread who have not only watched the first one but may choose to form their own view on the 2nd - that's their right. Repeated characterisations of those potential viewers has clearly being taken personally within this thread previously, it would be disingenuous to pretend that it hadn't.

If you want to engage, then why not simply ask them why, calmly. Otherwise, please stick to the film not attacks on those who might watch it.  

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 8:05:12 PM   
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 I think, for me, the two biggest questions this thread has raised are

1. What kind of German porn does Richie Fingers spend his time watching?

and

B. What does that pornography have to do with the Dutch Tom Six and his fictional horror film?


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 9:35:26 PM   
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, Hughes Ross, you may not be sticking it on straight after CBeebies, but 'kids' will have access to it as the internet is all around us, ooooooh. And I really don't know what 'worse shit' there is out there my friend. My very very sick friend
Still, it was nice to see Dev sticking up for his art. Sorry. Art.



There are  many films on top of my head that I have seen that could qualify as pretty sick...

Salo

Murder Set Pieces, which contains many scenes of rape and a real brutal murder of a child that will stay with you for days.

August Underground’s Mordum- which is really sick and sick...and sick....and well HC2 will have nothing on this!

My point is, there have been many films released over the years that contain scenes more horrible and horrific but have released without so much press attached to it........

If I went into what is in half these films I would be banned by the Mods

If I am a weirdo for wanting to watch HC2 to see what the fuss is about then so be it......but then you have to label nearly every film critic who gets paid to watch it when it finally gets a release....

And Rawls......I would never show my kids anything from a link u sent me...you have seen things, dark things, things that no man should see.......shall I mention that porn horror you reviewed last week

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 9:48:38 PM   
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And Rawls......I would never show my kids anything from a link u sent me...you have seen things, dark things, things that no man should see.......shall I mention that porn horror you reviewed last week


Wait till you see what I have lined up for next week.

But yeah, Salo > Sicker than most things.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 9:50:24 PM   
bobatim


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, Hughes Ross, you may not be sticking it on straight after CBeebies, but 'kids' will have access to it as the internet is all around us, ooooooh. And I really don't know what 'worse shit' there is out there my friend. My very very sick friend
Still, it was nice to see Dev sticking up for his art. Sorry. Art.



There are  many films on top of my head that I have seen that could qualify as pretty sick...

Salo

Murder Set Pieces, which contains many scenes of rape and a real brutal murder of a child that will stay with you for days.

August Underground's Mordum- which is really sick and sick...and sick....and well HC2 will have nothing on this!

My point is, there have been many films released over the years that contain scenes more horrible and horrific but have released without so much press attached to it........

If I went into what is in half these films I would be banned by the Mods

If I am a weirdo for wanting to watch HC2 to see what the fuss is about then so be it......but then you have to label nearly every film critic who gets paid to watch it when it finally gets a release....

And Rawls......I would never show my kids anything from a link u sent me...you have seen things, dark things, things that no man should see.......shall I mention that porn horror you reviewed last week


I think the BBFCs reasoning was that even though, yes there are films with much more graphic content, it's this film's intent that is brought into question: that the filmmaker has no message or statement to make, no allegory or moral message; that it's this film's intention to thrill and titillate.


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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 9:56:31 PM   
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And Rawls......I would never show my kids anything from a link u sent me...you have seen things, dark things, things that no man should see.......shall I mention that porn horror you reviewed last week


Wait till you see what I have lined up for next week.




That is it!  I am phoning the BBFC, Unless of course it has a moral message .....

I do not know why I posting on this thread....I did not even like the first one, simply becaiuse it was over hyped with nothing really to get my horror jucies flowing.  I found it rather bland.

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 28/6/2011 10:45:29 PM   
Deviation


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The maker of the film is hidding behind the word 'ART'


FFS It doesn't mean he's trying to pass a message about the decadent nature of man but this...

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Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items (often with symbolic significance) in a way that influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, photography, sculpture, and paintings.


He was continuing on the "not real" bit.

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This is not Germany this is England, we have higher standards. Just look at German porn!


Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, on to the next one.

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Maybe watching Robocop when you were eight has made you want to watch movies about arses being sewn to mouths and swallowing shit, raping of women with barb wire wrapped around the rapist cock (so iv heard about the sequal). i was also about eight when Robocop came out, so it goes to show some children can be affected in different ways.


You sir, are a fool.




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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 29/6/2011 1:07:10 PM   
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 There was me, about to ask Dev to lighten the thread, and BANG, there he is! Fantastic. It's like pressing the red button and Godzilla rising up (from the depths, 30 stories high GODZILLA!). It makes this thread worth watching again. Ooops Rawls. And me being a Springsteen fan too!
Richie? I should take stock if I were you..........Because, dum dum dummmm......

No one would have believed in the early years of the 21st century that this thread was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than the forumites and yet as (kilo_T) mortal as themselves; that as scribblers busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied (by mods), perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men and women went to and fro over this website about their little affairs, talking bollocks, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space (and the general outdoors) as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable (apart from area51). It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Totalfilm.com, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise (Swords). Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool (see! they had cool even back then!) and unsympathetic, regarded this thread with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the 21st century came the great disillusionment. (enter Kilo)

So you see Richie.....there are more things in heaven and earth (and in Dev's head) than are dreamt of in yours, or my, philosophy.

Truly a work of art.
Just trying to raise the level of this thread somewhat. Did it work? Has it inspired you to read or watch the original? Or listen to the music? If so my life is complete. Peace out

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 29/6/2011 1:59:48 PM   
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 richie, I have one thing to say - HC2 may well be a "sick" film. But I bet you £100 that it will also be shit. It will be (or is) a shit (as in bad) film, albeit a shit film which covers a topic and have themes that some may find unsavoury.

To be honest, right now you sound like every film fan's worst nightmare - a cross between Mary Whitehouse and James Ferman - and, further, I don't particularly want you to decide whether or not I should see HC2 and, if I do (which I'm sure I will at some point, but buggered if I'm gonna pay any money for it - not that I'm suggesting a dodgy download - I imagine one of my mates will get it on DVD, or maybe even blu ray to see the amazing "worse than German porn" images in glorious HD) to further decide that that then makes me some sick fucking bastard about to go out on a raging massacre. Hell, after I've seen it, I may even get the desire to slaughter a load of small children whilst I'm at it.

Look - I'm 32 years old, I've been a film fan since the age of about 3 (when my dad took me to see the re-release of Disney's Jungle Book in my then local fleapit) and have seen all sorts of "dodgy" stuff - I've seen the Faces of Death series, most of the Traces of Death series, most of the Guinea Pig films, everything Jorg Buttgereit has ever done, Salo, most of the Italian cannibal and zombie films, way too much modern American "gorn", I've sat through every second of Claude Lanzmann's Shoah (which is just about the most horrific and depressing thing I've ever seen), hell I've even seen Weekend at Bernie's 2 MORE THAN ONCE. Most of all that is shit. Some of it (the fictional stuff) has impressive special effects, but otherwise has no value of any kind (most of the Guinea Pig series).

I'm 32 years old. I've been married for seven years to a woman I still love as much as when I first met her, if not more. I have a sixteen month old daughter who I would die for. I have a respectable full time job. I own a house and a car. I get on well with my sister and mum (dad died a couple of years ago) and never had problems with anyone in my family. I have lots of good friends who I've known for a long time. I'm generally cheerful and happy and like to think I'm a nice and likable guy.

So, you tell me - am I a sick fuck?

Do us a favour richie - either bow out of the discussion, or tone it the fuck down, because your immature sound-offs are grating those of us approaching this conversation with logic and sense.

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC - 29/6/2011 2:14:23 PM   
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 I have no clue why anyone would want to see this film, or A Serbian Film or Salo. But I believe it is their right to do so.

People wanting to view this is barmy in my totally subjective opinion.

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