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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/6/2011 1:59:43 PM   
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We can pick holes in every franchise ever made.

Personally they don't detract from what I found to be a very entertaining blockbuster, this largely due to Mcavoy and Fassbender who were a joy to watch. Fassbender loses the accent on a couple of occasions and Im surprised they let it slip through but it doesn't detract from the overall performance.
The supporting cast are underused which is disapointing but I can forgive it because when more time is spent with the two main players the film is better for it, its obviously a hard balancing act that Vaughn seems to struggle with.

There are a few nitpicky plot holes but thats all they are and if you can ignore Last Stand and Wolverine, which alot seem to do then they really do become minor and a bit presumptuous with sequels possibly to follow.

Its a fine adition to a solid initial setup in X1 and the series high point in X2.


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RE: X-Men: First Class - 28/6/2011 4:27:38 PM   
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 Finally caught X-Men on Friday and loved it. Really, really enjoyed it. Yes, it has some flaws and some minor continuity errors with the previous X films, but as a prequel to reinvigorate the franchise after the shocking Wolverine, it works brilliantly. Fassbender is brilliant despite some slips of accent, and I was able to put up with McAvoy, who usually grates with me. Bacon was great and the suporting cast, although not given loads to do, are pretty decent. My main criticism would probably be with the marketing of the film, with all major set pieces signposted within the clips, trailers etc. Parts of that finale would've been really great if they hadnt been shown upfront. But yea, great film.

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RE: The.......... - 29/6/2011 5:50:00 AM   
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My sister had watched this movie, And she told me that this one is an truly awesome to see with all the friends.

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RE: The.......... - 1/7/2011 2:53:18 PM   
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 Probably the best X-men film to date, not hard I suppose after the last two but it does top X2 overall.

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x-men first class review - 7/7/2011 7:17:16 PM   
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Attempting to serve up a full blown prequel to the X-Men mythology seemed an entirely possible venture in the wake of J.J Abram’s “Star Trek” reboot which eulogised the mythology of “Star Trek” in a wholesome 127 minutes. In the case of “X-Men: First Class” however, the film only serves to remind us of how tall Bryan Singers “X-Men 2” stands above many others in cinema’s current super-hero craze.

We open, just like in the first “X-Men” movie (2000), with a young Erik Lehnsherr being separated from his parents by Nazi soldiers amid the holocaust, the moment the young polish boy discovered his ability to manipulate objects of metallic composition, and the moment his faith in humanity would be irreparably shattered. The genesis of Erik, who will go on to become Magneto, sets the path for the interesting dichotomy of which separates the mutant world and defines the battle between good and evil within the mythology – the haunted, angry and persecuted, or under Professor X, the institutionalized idealists.

This dichotomy grants the X-Men mythology with eternal substance, the reason for which a prequel seems necessary for the franchise, but this dichotomy also presents one of its fundamental flaws of which is the downfall of “First Class”. At the heart of X-Men there is an essential thesis prejudice; it can be applicable to whatever the audience wish: race or homophobia for example. Alongside this is the theme of the holocaust, but X-Men’s overly-camp aesthetic creates a difficult dynamic to balance, a dynamic which has been either overlooked or entirely misunderstood with “First Class”.

That being said, the initial foundations of the narrative are put together with an energetic and promising pace, with Fassbender as the older Magneto having the most interesting and involving story arc. This story of Nazi-revenge looses all intrigue when he meets Charles Xavier, played with a curious and totally charmless smug by James McAvoy. Upon the commencement of the second act we are 45 minutes in, little has happened, we aren’t invested and all “First Class” has to offer from then on is a retreat into cringe worthy montages with Austin Powers-esque 60’s parody soundtracks of which undermine the initially promising tone of the film alongside the quite impressive feat of undermining the context of which the film itself operates within: Cold War – in that sense, “First Class” plays out like “Watchmen’s” younger sister.

Unfortunately the political background of “First Class” very much remains of the peripheries, which has to be seen as unforgivable considering the two key pop culture/history mash ups in the film are two of the most significant events of the 20th century, the Holocaust and the Cuban Missile Crisis. This context of which “First Class” places itself provides far too much material for the film to cover. The main issue here is that the film doesn’t seek to cover it either. The overblown, corny aesthetic, alongside a cringe worthy and distracting cameo from Huge Action (Hugh Jackman) suggests that “First Class”, unlike X-Men 1 & 2, only ever sought to churn out as much money at the box-office as possible before the current direction of this franchise resigns itself to an inevitable reboot without tackling the material appropriately along the way.

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RE: x-men first class review - 7/7/2011 7:34:49 PM   
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 There are gaps in the story that dont make sense.After Shaw takes the young Erik under his wing(after killing his parents after which Erik doesnt even attempt to kill Shaw),we then cut to the sixties where an adult Erk is looking for him seeking revenge.How did he escape from Shaw in the first place? Its never shown.

Oh and Dirk,the accent slip up is very noticeable and in fact quite laughable.Fassbender really screwed up here.


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RE: x-men first class review - 7/7/2011 7:46:38 PM   
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 Good point, Silas - couldn't Magneto have used his powers to ruin the guards' guns and tear down the fencing at some point? Think that would be my first thought if I was the only superhuman around in such dire circumstances ...

Am still baffled by how much praise this film has received. An ex-friend of mine tried to poo-poo my criticisms by saying that Vaughn has gone on record saying this has no connection to the other X-Men films at all. Er ... really? So why recreate the opening of the first film and have the same guy playing Wolverine?

Still, each to their own. Just think that such great characters and stories deserve much, much better treatment than this. In fact, I don't even think of this as an X-Men film.Just a naff 'optional' entry into the franchise

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RE: x-men first class review - 7/7/2011 11:43:26 PM   
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Oh and Dirk,the accent slip up is very noticeable and in fact quite laughable.Fassbender really screwed up here.



Oh I agree, it's noticeable, but it didn't bug me as much as some and didn't take me out of the film. Not really sure its Fassbenders fault though, I'll bet the accent slipped more than once during filming, just can't believe they missed it and didn't sort it in post production.

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RE: x-men first class review - 8/7/2011 5:15:01 PM   
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 After seeing this for a 2nd time came to realise that for the last 20 minutes Fassbender goes all OIRISH???? can't beleave didn't notice it 1st time.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 10/7/2011 1:53:48 AM   
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 I'm torn with the film, even more so after going through these review pages. As a straight up summer blockbuster I enjoyed it - some great action, central performances and quite dark at times, especially as it's apparently a '12A' comic book movie. And on those grounds it's nearing 4 stars.

But like a few forumites on here, the lack of continuity did take me out of the film from time to time. I'm just one of those guys who likes to see consistency in franchises, especially if they claim to be sequels, prequels or spin-offs from the original film. I mean how hard is to stick to the history of original events and characters. I can take actor changes, it's part and parcel of the business, but ignoring what's gone before is just plain lazy in my book. Especially if it's for no good reason.

The whole continuity thing didn't just suddenly start with a shorter, less hairy Sabretooth in XMO: Wolverine though. Storm suddenly changed to American from African between 1 and 2 (wasn't the excuse that Halle Berry just didn't want to do it anymore and they hoped people wouldn't notice ).

I may be wrong here, but (for all it's faults) isn't X3 the only film that didn't mess with continuity? First Class is the only film that really goes to town in that respect. It doesn't sit right with me that I should just ignore the last 2 films to make the continuity work. Screw that, it's just lazy filmmaking and all down to the directors ego IMO. Either do a straight reboot (it's all the rage don't you know) or stick to the character history established over the last 10 years, but don't do some half arsed attempt at continuity.

So like i said, if I came into this fresh it's a decent 4 star summer blockbuster, but because I'm a fan of the franchise, lazy continuity errors don't leave a nice taste in the mouth, so it's a 3 star. Grrrr.

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RE: The.......... - 12/7/2011 2:06:55 AM   
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It's not "Oirish" if it is his real accent (which is an Irish one!). According to the actor and the director this was done on purpose rather than an oversight, nodding to Sean Connery's fluctuating Celtic accent in the Bond films.

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RE: The.......... - 12/7/2011 7:33:29 AM   
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 Not really a very good excuse though as Connery never tried any other accent rather than giving up half way through.

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RE: The.......... - 12/7/2011 6:23:27 PM   
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 Ok, so you have the accent, and on the other hand you have the scene in the bar with the two Nazi's.

On balance I know where I come out on this arguement.


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Soooo disappointed.... - 17/7/2011 12:51:26 AM   
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i was expecting so much more from this director, what a disappointment. the tone in places was misjudged even misogynistic, and the biggest cliche of all the black guy gets it, i mean seriously come on Mr Vaughn. . it was at that point in the film i sighed. this summer has been very low on quality blockbusters, apart from Thor.

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RE: Soooo disappointed.... - 19/7/2011 9:10:34 AM   
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 Finally got to see this last night.  While it did have some good moments, overall I found it pretty lacklustre.  Not so much first class, more a 2:2

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- 30/7/2011 5:22:17 AM   
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 It’s obvious to anyone who pays even the slightest attention to the industry that Hollywood has, over the past decade or so, become obsessed with comic book adaptations, and 2011 is choked with more of them than any year before. Thor kicked things off a few weeks back, and soon we will be seeing Green Lantern, Captain America: The First Avenger, Cowboys and Aliens, and The Adventures of Tintin, along with several other lesser known comic films. This week, Marvel Studios unleash X-Men: First Class, directed by Matthew Vaughn (Kick Ass), a prequel to the previous three X-Men films. Well, the first two anyway. This is in fact the second time we’ve had a movie this year which is the fourth in a series (not to mention the fifth in series Fast Five), and it is becoming hard to get enthused about the endless sequel/remake/reboot machine that Hollywood has become. So, what’s to get excited about in the latest X-Men film? As it turns out, quite a lot.

Perhaps most importantly for many fans (myself included), X-Men: First Class makes almost no reference to the last film in the series, Brett Ratner’s execrable X-Men: The Last Stand, while subtly maintaining links to Bryan Singer’s excellent original two movies. Set in 1962, First Class tells the origins of Charles Xavier’s (James McAvoy) research into mutant genetics, the formation of his school for gifted youngsters (mutants), and the forging of his friendship, and ultimate rivalry, with Erik Lehnsherr/Magneto (Michael Fassbender). Having Singer back in the fold as producer and co-writer really pays off, and only highlights how his lack of input on the film series he began effectively destroyed The Last Stand. Singer’s knowledge of the characters and mythology ensures that much that was great about the first two films is back on display, and this is clearly his film. While Vaughn does a competent job in the director’s chair, his sensibilities seem to be more suited to less co

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RE: Soooo disappointed.... - 31/7/2011 4:17:44 PM   
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i was expecting so much more from this director, what a disappointment. the tone in places was misjudged even misogynistic, and the biggest cliche of all the black guy gets it, i mean seriously come on Mr Vaughn. . it was at that point in the film i sighed. this summer has been very low on quality blockbusters, apart from Thor.


Beside the main villain he was the only other mutant to die in the film. The funniest thing was the tight close-up of him with the "slavery" reference.

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The Best X-Men movie! - 4/8/2011 1:20:05 AM   
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This is absolute glory! This has great direction after The Dark Knight

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X-Men: First Class: Review - 8/8/2011 2:25:05 AM   
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 X-Men: First Class is a fantastic film. The story was excellent, the actors did an excellent performance for their characters and it's one of the best reboots I have ever seen. We all know in the end Magneto turns evil but before he did you kinda felt for him before he turned evil ( something Obi-Wan Kenobi & Anakin Skywalker should have did in the Star Wars prequel). A great X-Men movie and sure of more to come. I would recommend to go see this film.

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 19/8/2011 9:37:19 PM   
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This is the best X men film out there. I loved it through and through. Bacon was great in the role, I wish there could have been more from him. Likewise Xavier/Magneto was really well done. I think there was more to their friendship than one movie would allow but as it is I really enjoyed the way their friendship and motives changed. Good supporting cast and while ive read complaints about the X men in this film, remember they are kids newly discovering they are not alone. One of my personal highlights was Beast making Magneto look like a pussy I really enjoyed that moment.

With it being a prequel there was dramatic irony created which I thought helped my enjoyment of it. There are definitely continuity issues which I think say something about Singer/Vaughn/assoc being a bit petty and somewhat pathetic. Making a film to shun someone elses work (Ratners X3 which i dont think is so bad) and Wolverine (shit) is pointless and I think will grate a bit when ultimately ill have a marathon. It just seems stupid to have glaring inconsistencies in the series.

Creators need to think hard about the next film. Im not too concerned with characters who arent supposed to be alive or a villian or a nobody, but I would like for this series to gel. I would easy give this film 4 stars.

My main concern is just the fact the film didnt avoid the biggest movie cliche around and kill the black guy first. Fucking loved his death though!

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RE: X-Men: First Class - 22/8/2011 10:23:58 PM   
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This is the best X men film out there. I loved it through and through. Bacon was great in the role, I wish there could have been more from him. Likewise Xavier/Magneto was really well done. I think there was more to their friendship than one movie would allow but as it is I really enjoyed the way their friendship and motives changed. Good supporting cast and while ive read complaints about the X men in this film, remember they are kids newly discovering they are not alone. One of my personal highlights was Beast making Magneto look like a pussy I really enjoyed that moment.

With it being a prequel there was dramatic irony created which I thought helped my enjoyment of it. There are definitely continuity issues which I think say something about Singer/Vaughn/assoc being a bit petty and somewhat pathetic. Making a film to shun someone elses work (Ratners X3 which i dont think is so bad) and Wolverine (shit) is pointless and I think will grate a bit when ultimately ill have a marathon. It just seems stupid to have glaring inconsistencies in the series.

Creators need to think hard about the next film. Im not too concerned with characters who arent supposed to be alive or a villian or a nobody, but I would like for this series to gel. I would easy give this film 4 stars.

My main concern is just the fact the film didnt avoid the biggest movie cliche around and kill the black guy first. Fucking loved his death though!
Must say i agree with most of this,and not a fan of the films.
Thought it was smart,well acted and well written.

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X-Men 3 - 26/8/2011 8:50:25 AM   
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Perhaps most importantly for many fans (myself included), X-Men: First Class makes almost no reference to the last film in the series, Brett Ratner’s execrable X-Men: The Last Stand, while subtly maintaining links to Bryan Singer’s excellent original two movies.

I loved the fact it totally ignores Last Stand and Wolverine. They're both pretty terrible. First Class, X-Men and X-2 make a pretty great little trilogy (despite the original having dated pretty badly).

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The best - 21/9/2011 11:50:10 AM   
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This is the best X-Men's episode

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RE: The best - 22/9/2011 9:35:31 AM   
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 I enjoyed it, the best in the series me thinks

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Confused. - 23/9/2011 9:42:44 AM   
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This film, considering that it had less than a year of production (I think) is amazing.
Though, after watching X-men Origins: Wolverine I realized, they aren't in the right order. I know this was meant to be the prequel but they could've at least watched the end of Wolverine and seen that, at the end, Charles Xavier is in a wheelchair, yet there's a small scene in this where they walk into the bar that Wolverine is sitting and they're young and walking?
I don't know if its just me over analyzing things but can someone help me clear this up?

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RE: Confused. - 7/10/2011 2:07:50 PM   
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I don't know if its just me over analyzing things but can someone help me clear this up?


There is no clearing up as such - they decided to ignore certain things in the other movies, while keeping others as they saw fit, depending on whether it suited their story. Ignore it. Brush the differences under the metaphorical carpet so to speak or you'll go crazy ;)

I look at First Class as a reboot, regardless of what they say - none of the other movies happened in 'this reality' (even if some of them were alluded to or even directly referenced) and the timeline is all new starting from here. To look at it in any other way brings up way too many discrepancies.



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RE: Confused. - 9/10/2011 3:48:26 PM   
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I don't know if its just me over analyzing things but can someone help me clear this up?


There is no clearing up as such - they decided to ignore certain things in the other movies, while keeping others as they saw fit, depending on whether it suited their story. Ignore it. Brush the differences under the metaphorical carpet so to speak or you'll go crazy ;)

I look at First Class as a reboot, regardless of what they say - none of the other movies happened in 'this reality' (even if some of them were alluded to or even directly referenced) and the timeline is all new starting from here. To look at it in any other way brings up way too many discrepancies.





They could have made that more clear in the advertising.It was sold as a prequel ''SEE WHERE IT ALL BEGAN!,BEFORE HE WAS PROFESSOR X!,BEFORE HE WAS MAGNETO!''.It gets even more confusing when they have Jackman and Romijn in there for cameos and it contradicts events in the previous movies.

My advice to anyone watching it for the first time is yeah,consider it a reboot.


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X-citing and Fun! - 20/10/2011 9:08:37 PM   
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 Finally after two duff X men films we get this great film. Firstly don't expect it to be high brow because it isn't. It does what it says on the tin and does it with gusto.
It keeps you entertained throughout and isn't afraid to throw in some great CGI and pyrotechnics.
The acting was good and character development also good. The script and plot was a tad predictable in parts but that can be forgiven.
Enjoyable popcorn movie which was entertaining

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- 29/10/2011 10:42:12 PM   
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Good show but it's slow and boring

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FIRST CLASS ALL THE WAY - 1/11/2011 5:37:08 PM   
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First off Micheal Fassbender had his natural accent from the first moment he spoke English.Its his Magneto,like this is Vaughns X-movie.NO IMITATING,THANK GOD.Secondly,60's backdrop squandered?Its the frame the film is built on! Its one of the many aspects that makes this one of,if not, the best X-MEN movie to come out.And for Mr. Jolin to write cud have done without the "lets have codenames episode",he obviously doesnt understand the X-MEN universe,AT ALL.He seems to be too infatuated with Mr. Singer.Thirdly,that was the best Beast I have ever seen on screen.Between Hoult and the make-up artists,AMAZING.Wished I cud hav seen more.Lastly Empire,this was the Brits X-MEN show,quite surprised you didnt show your usual British bias,especially when this was the time to show it.

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