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The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 17/5/2011 8:39:43 AM   
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RE: i cant help but feel like - 17/5/2011 9:55:08 AM   
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wow, that's the first time i've been blown away by a trailer in ages

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RE: the trailer - 17/5/2011 10:16:15 AM   
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jus makes me wish even more it had just been a live action film but then i guess jamie bell could never look like tintin - and thats why its mo-cap


Yeah, they motion-captured an ENTIRE film because they cast someone who didn't look like Tintin - oh, if only they'd thought of that first!


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Great! - 17/5/2011 10:44:15 AM   
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Jaime Bells voice seems to fit quite well, was wondering how that would work

Otherwise looks great, very happy with what I have seen

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RE: RE:TINTIN - 17/5/2011 12:53:22 PM   
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RE: RE:RE:RE - 17/5/2011 1:19:07 PM   
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Tintin has two different trailers apple one is shorter and has different ending


Yea, I'd noticed this. 2nd version doesn't end with Daniel Craigs voiceover, but with Jaime Bell again. Plus the text is different, something about an 'adventure like no other' or some such.

Am guessing they've realeased an International and Domestic version, but I can't for the life of me think why.

Anyway, I haven't been able to get excited about Tintin at all. The only thing that has really given me hope is the talent involved. The teaser is all very fine, but it still has a really hollow dead eye feel when it lingers on one shot too long - I think it's most apparent in the shot of The Twins behind the paper. It's a really nice shot in general, with the brush/plunger on the upside down paper standing in for the nose and 'tach of each fella. But the eyes through the paper look empty, and the hats look freakishly high off the head given the position of the eyes. It's a really small nitpick, but in this kind of mo-cap film it really drags you out in a way that doesn't happen with traditional animation. I mean, Wall-E's mechanical eyes gave across more emotion than any mo-cap film I've seen. It doesn't look like a huge improvement on A Christmas Carol, which I enjoyed, but often found myself looking directly into a characters eyes and getting freaked.

Anyway, it's a nice enough teaser but it hasn't done enough to remove all the doubts I have about this one.

One more thing, the score in the teaser is ace. Anyone know what it is, or is it partof Williams' new score??

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RE: Tilda Swinton! - 17/5/2011 1:47:01 PM   
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Im sorry but why do you people get excited over the uber iritating Tin Tin?...its always been bloody awful and boring. The viz does not seem to have come along much further than beowolf, still stuck firmly in uncanny valley. Not entirely sure why they are rebooting something that really should be resigned to history
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RE: Eyes - 17/5/2011 2:57:32 PM   
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I think it looks very good.  Its a teaser though so lets not right it off just yet everyone.

Also the music is very good and hope the finished film is like this. 

I can see why Spielberg has made this film, its very Indiana Jones in style and era, lets hope its just as much fun.

The mo-cap doesn't bother me at all.  For me its just another tool for the film makers to create the worlds that they want.  The dead eyes don't stand out for me either unless you are really looking at it and thinking about it to much.

This is the big Xmas movie for me and can't wait.
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RE: Tilda Swinton! - 17/5/2011 4:01:07 PM   
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I really don't get the excitement. It's some past their prime big talents unnecessarily throwing millions of dollars of technology at a project that doesn't need it. From the looks of the trailer it looks likes all it has done is combine all the disadvantages of live action and animation.

The greatest advantage of animation is how expressive it can be, largely because you're not limited by reality. The simplicity of animated images means that we can identify with the characters by projecting ourselves and our world in to the action (see Scott McCloud's understanding comics). However because the powers that be have made Tintin photo-realistic it is constrained by reality and thus looks unexciting, stiff and creepy.

To elaborate, the reason why Dark Knight and the Bourne films feel so exciting is because everything feels real. There is a sense of danger because our subconscious brains can tell the difference between what is a bunch of pixels and what is a vehicle exploding or a real guy jumping through a window. As a result we're excited because it feels like real danger and something is at stake. I will admit that CGI has gotten very impressive but when it is misused or overused our brains can tell and we switch off. Countless examples of this include; Top Gun vs Stealth, Matrix vs its sequels, Star Wars vs its prequels, a Del Toro or Nolan film vs a Snyder or recent Zemeckis film etc

This principle extends to mo-cap and from all the promotional material it seems like Tintin hasn't escaped the uncanny valley. The hardest thing to make photo-realistic are organisms. Avatar just about gets away with it but that was because Jim Cameron was smart enough to ease us into alien environment where he can get away with a lot. However, no matter how much you like Spielberg and co, to your brain the people in Tintin just look wrong. They move a little too stiffly, their eyes are a little too dead and to make things worse they're distorted to look like freakish, photo-realistic cartoons. Our subconscious just knows that it is wrong and makes it difficult for us to invest in these creepy looking pixels.

The animation is too constrained to be expressive and the photo-realism is too unrealistic for us to be invested. It's the worst of both worlds and I haven't gotten started on the literal headache that 3D will add to the proceedings.

This film looks like a complete waste of money, using overrated technology that adds nothing to the story or characters. I know it will make money but I for one will not watch it at the cinema just on the principle that I don't want to support the side of the film industry that thinks that technology and star power is a suitable substitution for actual creativeness.

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RE: Tilda Swinton! - 17/5/2011 4:56:32 PM   
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I really don't get the excitement. It's some past their prime big talents unnecessarily throwing millions of dollars of technology at a project that doesn't need it. From the looks of the trailer it looks likes all it has done is combine all the disadvantages of live action and animation.

The greatest advantage of animation is how expressive it can be, largely because you're not limited by reality. The simplicity of animated images means that we can identify with the characters by projecting ourselves and our world in to the action (see Scott McCloud's understanding comics). However because the powers that be have made Tintin photo-realistic it is constrained by reality and thus looks unexciting, stiff and creepy.

To elaborate, the reason why Dark Knight and the Bourne films feel so exciting is because everything feels real. There is a sense of danger because our subconscious brains can tell the difference between what is a bunch of pixels and what is a vehicle exploding or a real guy jumping through a window. As a result we're excited because it feels like real danger and something is at stake. I will admit that CGI has gotten very impressive but when it is misused or overused our brains can tell and we switch off. Countless examples of this include; Top Gun vs Stealth, Matrix vs its sequels, Star Wars vs its prequels, a Del Toro or Nolan film vs a Snyder or recent Zemeckis film etc

This principle extends to mo-cap and from all the promotional material it seems like Tintin hasn't escaped the uncanny valley. The hardest thing to make photo-realistic are organisms. Avatar just about gets away with it but that was because Jim Cameron was smart enough to ease us into alien environment where he can get away with a lot. However, no matter how much you like Spielberg and co, to your brain the people in Tintin just look wrong. They move a little too stiffly, their eyes are a little too dead and to make things worse they're distorted to look like freakish, photo-realistic cartoons. Our subconscious just knows that it is wrong and makes it difficult for us to invest in these creepy looking pixels.

The animation is too constrained to be expressive and the photo-realism is too unrealistic for us to be invested. It's the worst of both worlds and I haven't gotten started on the literal headache that 3D will add to the proceedings.

This film looks like a complete waste of money, using overrated technology that adds nothing to the story or characters. I know it will make money but I for one will not watch it at the cinema just on the principle that I don't want to support the side of the film industry that thinks that technology and star power is a suitable substitution for actual creativeness.


Or, you could simply wait to see what it looks like when it's actually, you know finished, before dismissing it so completely.
 
You may well be 100% correct but films like this are in post right up to the wire. A lot of these shots will be getting worked on for another 4 or 5 months. We won't know how convincing the film will be until we're sitting in front of it… where I plan to be upon release. A 70ft IMAX screen at that.
 
Man we like to bash round here! It's a teaser, five months from release. You need to be a little more realistic regarding the  difference between teaser and end product.

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Looks Great! - 17/5/2011 6:16:45 PM   
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Just played it for the first time with sound... Looks bloody brilliant to me! I read the books as a kid and really liked them. But until watching that trailer I don't think I'd realised that I'd been waiting all that time to see this! Can't wait! First night IMAX job for me.

Hope that music if from the score! Makes it feel truly expansive and epic in scope.

So to clarify, I'm sold! so very, very sold!


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RE: Eyes - 17/5/2011 7:01:24 PM   
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The dead eyes thing just stood out for me and it is an issue with mo-cap that alot of people notice even when they're not initially looking for it.  However, as I said I'm not really throwing my toys out of the pram over it either.  There's still  6 months before it's actually finished and as one guy here said, they didn't even show lipsync. I'm sure we're going to see much better stuff in the final trailer and even at that, alot of the shots in this one already look amazing. The posters look excellent as well!

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RE: Professor Calculus - 17/5/2011 9:40:53 PM   
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Who is voicing Professor Calculus i can't seem to find it??

He's not in the film.


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RE: Tintin - 17/5/2011 10:17:42 PM   
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Sad to say this trailer really hasn't piqued my interest in this film at all.

I just can't bring myself to care.


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RE: Tilda Swinton! - 17/5/2011 10:53:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pete_traynor

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ORIGINAL: Quentin Black

I really don't get the excitement. It's some past their prime big talents unnecessarily throwing millions of dollars of technology at a project that doesn't need it. From the looks of the trailer it looks likes all it has done is combine all the disadvantages of live action and animation.

The greatest advantage of animation is how expressive it can be, largely because you're not limited by reality. The simplicity of animated images means that we can identify with the characters by projecting ourselves and our world in to the action (see Scott McCloud's understanding comics). However because the powers that be have made Tintin photo-realistic it is constrained by reality and thus looks unexciting, stiff and creepy.

To elaborate, the reason why Dark Knight and the Bourne films feel so exciting is because everything feels real. There is a sense of danger because our subconscious brains can tell the difference between what is a bunch of pixels and what is a vehicle exploding or a real guy jumping through a window. As a result we're excited because it feels like real danger and something is at stake. I will admit that CGI has gotten very impressive but when it is misused or overused our brains can tell and we switch off. Countless examples of this include; Top Gun vs Stealth, Matrix vs its sequels, Star Wars vs its prequels, a Del Toro or Nolan film vs a Snyder or recent Zemeckis film etc

This principle extends to mo-cap and from all the promotional material it seems like Tintin hasn't escaped the uncanny valley. The hardest thing to make photo-realistic are organisms. Avatar just about gets away with it but that was because Jim Cameron was smart enough to ease us into alien environment where he can get away with a lot. However, no matter how much you like Spielberg and co, to your brain the people in Tintin just look wrong. They move a little too stiffly, their eyes are a little too dead and to make things worse they're distorted to look like freakish, photo-realistic cartoons. Our subconscious just knows that it is wrong and makes it difficult for us to invest in these creepy looking pixels.

The animation is too constrained to be expressive and the photo-realism is too unrealistic for us to be invested. It's the worst of both worlds and I haven't gotten started on the literal headache that 3D will add to the proceedings.

This film looks like a complete waste of money, using overrated technology that adds nothing to the story or characters. I know it will make money but I for one will not watch it at the cinema just on the principle that I don't want to support the side of the film industry that thinks that technology and star power is a suitable substitution for actual creativeness.



Or, you could simply wait to see what it looks like when it's actually, you know finished, before dismissing it so completely.
 
You may well be 100% correct but films like this are in post right up to the wire. A lot of these shots will be getting worked on for another 4 or 5 months. We won't know how convincing the film will be until we're sitting in front of it… where I plan to be upon release. A 70ft IMAX screen at that.
 
Man we like to bash round here! It's a teaser, five months from release. You need to be a little more realistic regarding the  difference between teaser and end product.


You know what was also in post up to the wire? The Mummy Returns. It's a common excuse but rarely are the end effects that much better. Did they manage to make the burly brawl in Matrix Reloaded look any less like a video game? Did they fix the shots of young Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy to make him less robotic and eerily plastic? Were the images of Green Lantern's mask in the official "final look" promo stills any less awful than the early trailer? If this is what passes for an acceptable representation of final product then, no matter how much you cheer lead for Spielberg and his gang, it is realistically not going be the first film to escape the uncanny valley.

The worst thing about it is that Tintin is a film that doesn't need or benefit from mo-cap or 3D. It has no excuse to use it. The hundreds of millions of dollars poured into this technology does nothing to enhance the film or characters and actually does a lot of hinder the audience's investment in the characters and action. It's Hollywood excess at it's worst and audiences who pay the premium are just fueling the downwards spiral.

If I'm completely wrong and it turns out to be a Spielberg classic, which are few and far between nowadays, I'll gladly hand over money to see it again in the cinema but as Joe Wright said in an interview, it is the responsibility of the audiences to promote creativity and originality in cinema.
If the film succeeds it won't because of the technology it will be in spite of it but Hollywood won't see it like that. The studios and trumped up talent will see it as a sign to fund things with excessive use of mo-cap, CGI and 3D over riskier projects fueled by crazy things like story, originality and characters.

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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 17/5/2011 11:22:46 PM   
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Just an side note to think about...

The success of Avatar really paved the way for the recent explosion of technology in films. The big filmmakers like Cameron and Spielberg, who have really embraced technology and will apply it to anything and everything, have paved the way for Clash of the Titans 3D, Alice in Wonderland 3D, Mars Needs Moms and Ryan Reynold's really, really awful mask in the upcoming Green Lantern movie. I'm only half joking when I say that studios would have released a mo-capped version of The King's Speech in 3D if they had the chance.

Then you get filmmakers like Nolan and Fincher are very apprehensive about adopting the latest technology fads. It doesn't mean they won't use it, it just means that when they use it, it will be used with restraint to enhance the film. A lot of critics actually consider that the originality and success of these filmmakers have paved the way for original projects like The Adjustment Bureau and Source Code.

Isn't there something comforting that there are big filmmakers pushing back against all the Hollywood trends? Isn't it reassuring that there are still filmmakers who can command a hundred million dollar budget yet still remember the basic principles that made their films great in the first place?

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RE: Pants - 18/5/2011 12:45:04 PM   
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As has been said below, what's the point? Mo-cap should be used to create unrealistic or impossible characters. Otherwise you may as well just do it live action with special effects


I think the purpose of mo-cap in this instance was to create characters that look like the original comic book, not Jamie Bell playing tin tin looking like Jamie Bell.

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RE: Pants - 18/5/2011 1:09:36 PM   
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We went through all of this with Avatar...

The teaser trailer came out, we all wailed (*holds hand up*) that it looks terrible, dead eyes, not realistic characters, can't engage with blah blah... and then the finished product arrived and we were genuinely blown away...

I agree that it looks ropey but there's still nearly a year to go... I imagine Spielberg and Jackson would rather not release any visuals until they're finishd but alas they have a product to advertise...

Plus Jackson and Speilberg are above anything else storytellers - it could be a puppet show and still be more interesting than Tron: Legacy


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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 2:53:52 PM   
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Can everyone stop with the Mo-cap-bashing? Do you think Spielberg and Jackson would have done it in that way if they didn't feel it worked? These are two film-maker geniuses, with years and years of experience. They know what will look best. And I personally think it is a great idea as it means the whole thing can look much more comicy and closer to the original illustrations, therefore pleasing old fans. Also, the animation looks gorgeous as it is, something you wouldn't get if it was live action. Sure, you could say do it just animation or just live action, but this way they're able to capture the movements and make the cartoon characters more realistic, giving us a better chance to connect to them.
Plus, as already stated before, it's more about the story-telling, so with a script from Wright, Cormish and Moffat, it could be made with crate paper and still be an incredible film, this mo-cap just makes it even better than it would already be.

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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 2:57:44 PM   
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Can everyone stop with the Mo-cap-bashing? Do you think Spielberg and Jackson would have done it in that way if they didn't feel it worked? These are two film-maker geniuses, with years and years of experience. They know what will look best. And I personally think it is a great idea as it means the whole thing can look much more comicy and closer to the original illustrations, therefore pleasing old fans. Also, the animation looks gorgeous as it is, something you wouldn't get if it was live action. Sure, you could say do it just animation or just live action, but this way they're able to capture the movements and make the cartoon characters more realistic, giving us a better chance to connect to them.
Plus, as already stated before, it's more about the story-telling, so with a script from Wright, Cormish and Moffat, it could be made with crate paper and still be an incredible film, this mo-cap just makes it even better than it would already be.


I couldn't agree more. The trailer looks amazing, a classic comic book story being brought to the screen by Spielberg and Jackson - if you have a soul and enjoy watching movies, this is movie heaven.

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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 4:46:13 PM   
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Oh yeah these geniuses have never missed a beat. King Kong was a shining example of subtle story telling and the latest Indiana Jones will go down in history as the perfect ending for the series...oh wait...

The mo-cap does not make it easier to connect to the characters. The reason why animation works is because we use our imagination to project ourselves on to these simple designs. It's why the smiley face is such a universal symbol for a face. With mo-cap you don't get the same expressiveness or imagination you get with animation but at the same time you don't care because no matter how many pores they animate our subconscious knows they're not real. The characters end up looking like creepy, stiff facsimiles of real humans and distorting them to make them look like the cartoon just makes it worse.

Answer honestly. Would you have wanted the Simpson's movie to look like this...http://www.moviecritic.com.au/images/the-real-homer-simpson-realistic-photoshop.jpg? What about a Peanuts movie that looks like this...http://davidthompson.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451675669e2011572117b86970b-700wi?

This is an entirely soulless film designed to capitalise on audiences willingness to pay a premium for the big names and gimmicks. Avatar succeeded because everything that was mo-capped or animated was alien and our subconscious aren't so discerning with alien worlds. It eased us into this world that we have little frame of reference for and to be fair on James Cameron the use of technology was necessary. With Tintin the use of technology is completely unnecessary, a waste of money and a horrible distraction. If it succeeds it'll be in spite of the gimmicks.

At the end of the day even Avatar fell down with the weak characters and heavy handed story. The fact that it lost the Oscar to The Hurt Locker shows that technology is not a replacement for traditional filmmaking principles, something that is too easily lost on the Hollywood power players. The sad fact is for every Avatar you have a Polar Express, Beowulf and a Mars Needs Moms.

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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 4:56:36 PM   
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For me it's the anticipation of what could be.

Sure mo-cap has had its issue as you mention, this is a clssic story being told through a new way of film making, its the combination of the ambition, the talent, the technology, the pure creativity that, frankly, astounds me and is the sole reason i enjoy watching movies.








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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 5:02:51 PM   
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Oh yeah these geniuses have never missed a beat. King Kong was a shining example of subtle story telling and the latest Indiana Jones will go down in history as the perfect ending for the series...oh wait...

The mo-cap does not make it easier to connect to the characters. The reason why animation works is because we use our imagination to project ourselves on to these simple designs. It's why the smiley face is such a universal symbol for a face. With mo-cap you don't get the same expressiveness or imagination you get with animation but at the same time you don't care because no matter how many pores they animate our subconscious knows they're not real. The characters end up looking like creepy, stiff facsimiles of real humans and distorting them to make them look like the cartoon just makes it worse.

Answer honestly. Would you have wanted the Simpson's movie to look like this...http://www.moviecritic.com.au/images/the-real-homer-simpson-realistic-photoshop.jpg? What about a Peanuts movie that looks like this...http://davidthompson.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451675669e2011572117b86970b-700wi?

This is an entirely soulless film designed to capitalise on audiences willingness to pay a premium for the big names and gimmicks. Avatar succeeded because everything that was mo-capped or animated was alien and our subconscious aren't so discerning with alien worlds. It eased us into this world that we have little frame of reference for and to be fair on James Cameron the use of technology was necessary. With Tintin the use of technology is completely unnecessary, a waste of money and a horrible distraction. If it succeeds it'll be in spite of the gimmicks.

At the end of the day even Avatar fell down with the weak characters and heavy handed story. The fact that it lost the Oscar to The Hurt Locker shows that technology is not a replacement for traditional filmmaking principles, something that is too easily lost on the Hollywood power players. The sad fact is for every Avatar you have a Polar Express, Beowulf and a Mars Needs Moms.


I agree, well put - motion-capture appears an unnecessary tool to tell a 'real world' story... however, my point was that's how they've chosen to tell it and for those earlier in the thread saying it looks rubbish - it's only half-finished. Lets wait and see if it works.


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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 18/5/2011 11:45:58 PM   
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Some experts have another opinion:

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RE: im treading carefully this time - 19/5/2011 2:16:40 PM   
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cuz I got quoted in Empire (yes, I kept the issue) when I said something about Avatar that was less than complementary...
But this looks just a bit... dull?
I'm a big Tintin fan (it was cool to read a comicbook that had guns in it to be honest) and the detail was amazing. They've certainly captured the atmosphere but it still just looks like one of those adverts for a game you see on tv. It simply does not excite me like a live action movie would.
The characters still move in a slightly unreal way (watch Tintin walk down the street or when he jumps through the doorway to shoot at the car) and it's just not good enough frankly.
There just isn't any point in doing it this way. There was a horrible live action Tintin a long time ago and god knows we don't want that but why do we want this? I agree with people who moan about hiring big names like Daniel Craig and then not seeing him at all - what is the point? But then that's like saying you don't see Tom Hanks when you watch Toy Story.
There is now with mocap a great big white elephant in the room (if I may be permitted to mix my metaphors - is that a metaphor??) Mocap is just something that people have seen and thought 'oooh, that's clever, lets have a go!' and not really thought about whether they need to and now no one is mentioning it (mainly cuz it's Spielberg and I'd let him burn my authentic Raiders jacket if he wanted to - what can I say, the man's a legend) but it doesn't add up to anything that's worth the price of a ticket. I love animation - having kids you HAVE to, it's the law - but this just leaves me cold.
Well, we'll see what happens when the movie comes out but movie land needs Spielberg fighting the good fight for STORY, CHARACTER, REAL SETS, REAL EFFECTS WHEREVER POSSIBLE. Even Zemekis has come in from the cold now for godsake!


I completely agree. Too many filmmakers are using mo-cap and 3D without thinking about whether or not it is necessary or beneficial. The recession has the studios running scared so they're putting their money on sequels, remakes and money-making gimmicks. It's more important than ever for the big names to take a stand against the studios to put the films first.

The trailer just looks cold and soulless.
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RE: im treading carefully this time - 20/5/2011 12:04:01 PM   
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Not a very good trailer, even if it's a teaser there was no "Wow" moment to grab your attention. The closest thing was the boat at the end, but anyone who's seen At World's End will have already seen a shot like that (and a far more impressive version of it too).

My favourite clip was the two gents with the bowler hats looking through the eye holes in the newspaper, but that was it.

Looking forward to a few more trailers to build this up a bit more, but I'm not interested in seeing this yet.

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RE: im treading carefully this time - 20/5/2011 12:10:13 PM   
bid red mcneil

 

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Give them time, i'm sure they will come up with something to wow all you doubters.

Have a look at the source material before judging this too much, yes it was about the adventures of crime fighting boy but it was done in a fairly gentle way, i think the people who are criticising this are "The Dark Knight" generation, more used to darker, violent themes.

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RE: The Adventures Of Tintin Trailer Online! - 20/5/2011 11:50:55 PM   
kirk

 

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My problem is….well…..Avatar I agree we all got very angry/sad/excited by the trailer and the CGI….but well…..that was large blue cats trying to look human…
They didn’t mo cap Sigourney Weaver and Giovanni Ribisi…or even uber villain Stephen Lang
They were all real.
Where as this is making real people, look, well sort of real, and sort of not….it’s a hard mix to push.
I’m sure it’ll do well as Spielberg knows what he’s doing and the writing team is amazing!
But I’m just not sure yet if mocap can pull us in by doing real humans…..
Golems, avatars and rising apes is fine. but I don’t know

Also the shot of the ship going over the sand is the same as
A ship going over sand in a pirate’s film I remember….instead of water gushing it along though it was …..tiny rock crabs….Copy cats….

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