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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 6/5/2011 1:22:56 PM   
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Now, my mind may be fucking with me, but I'm pretty sure when I saw Starship Troopers on it's original cinema release it was only a 15. Can anyone clarify?


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 6/5/2011 1:34:21 PM   
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Compared to the current endless glut of teen slasher pics, which routinely get 15s, yeah I think The Terminator is quite mild.

reading around it seems quite a few people think T1 and T2 could be 12s today! i guess if you edited out all the F bombs and scenes of blood/gore they could be 12

i remember being quite shocked T3 was a 12 with several F bombs and the arm through the chest (same cut was R in the US) maybe teh BBFC guy fell asleep half way through

recently watched the so called Directors Cut of T4 with about 2 mins of extra violence. it got it raised from PG13 to an R in the US but here it still remains a 12. i dont understand why they didnt give the Die Hard 4/AvP treatment and have a few mofos/extra gore etc making it feel more like Terminator than a post apocalypticTransformers

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 6/5/2011 1:34:34 PM   
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Cheers GB. Glad you pointed me in that direction otherwise I might have missed this....

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 6/5/2011 3:49:08 PM   
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 9/5/2011 12:18:04 PM   
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recently bought all the Highlanders on dvd and watched HL3 for the first time in years and was quite shocked by the sex scene that is near hard core porn!

its a 15 but id have thought it would be an 18 due to that scene

HL 4 is an 18 but wasnt as graphic

anyone seen Highlander 5? (currently waiting for it to arrive - ive heard its even worse than 2 if thats possible)

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 9/5/2011 1:44:48 PM   
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most recently:- i'd say hardest '15' - Animal Kingdom - for persistant dread ;D
and softest '15' - Easy A - one of the few times i've thought the brilliant BBFC were too strict.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 9/5/2011 2:08:58 PM   
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It looks like we've got an upcoming candidate for the strongest 15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6IV77cryBo

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 1:56:43 PM   
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30 Days Of Night definitely, when I went to see it as a 15 in the cinema I was amazed at how violent it was. Like the head-axing scene in particular.

Scream 4 when compared to the previous three - which were all 18's - because if anything, it was even more violent.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 3:08:52 PM   
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I'd go with Braveheart as mentioned on page 3. Some of the hackings and smashings (albeit very brief) are quite nasty. The bit with the ball and chain on the bed is particularly gruey.  I remember the Untouchables being rather blood thirsty for its day but a 15 is probably fair by today's standards. 

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 4:04:37 PM   
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Scream 4 when compared to the previous three - which were all 18's - because if anything, it was even more violent.


No, it was more bloody, there is, surprisingly, a difference. The reason the others are 18s, the first one especially, is the knife penetration shots. The last scene of Scream has characters willingly stab each other for fun. The opening scene of the second one and what happens to Maureen (Jada Pinkett) is quite brutal. The third one is a bit of a mystery as to why it's an 18, I assume because of knife penetration shots. Also, there is strong language (motherfucker) and this is back when the BBFC still frowned upon that word, as well as description of rape (towards the end of the film).

There weren't that many actual knife penetration shots in Scream 4. The knife head shot is bloody but is actually followed by a comedic moment so it lightens the tone (it's how the Final Destination films get away with violence). Plus, you see the insides of a victim in one scene but after they have died, you don't actually see the person getting gutted. That is the difference between 'violence' and 'blood and gore' and that determines the certificate. It's all very strange how they judge one film against another, I guess.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 4:08:10 PM   
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Scream 4 when compared to the previous three - which were all 18's - because if anything, it was even more violent.


No, it was more bloody, there is, surprisingly, a difference. The reason the others are 18s, the first one especially, is the knife penetration shots. The last scene of Scream has characters willingly stab each other for fun. The opening scene of the second one and what happens to Maureen (Jada Pinkett) is quite brutal. The third one is a bit of a mystery as to why it's an 18, I assume because of knife penetration shots. Also, there is strong language (motherfucker) and this is back when the BBFC still frowned upon that word, as well as description of rape (towards the end of the film).

There weren't that many actual knife penetration shots in Scream 4. The knife head shot is bloody but is actually followed by a comedic moment so it lightens the tone (it's how the Final Destination films get away with violence). Plus, you see the insides of a victim in one scene but after they have died, you don't actually see the person getting gutted. That is the difference between 'violence' and 'blood and gore' and that determines the certificate. It's all very strange how they judge one film against another, I guess.








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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 4:15:44 PM   
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 4:16:32 PM   
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 8:18:19 PM   
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Recently saw Centurion (Neil Marshall's last film - 2010 ) on Sky and it made me squirm at times. Vicious battle scenes and decapitations galore. I was shocked that it just a 15.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 10/5/2011 10:02:30 PM   
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Recently saw Centurion (Neil Marshall's last film - 2010 ) on Sky and it made me squirm at times. Vicious battle scenes and decapitations galore. I was shocked that it just a 15.


That's probably because the gore is quite tongue in cheek.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 11/5/2011 6:15:24 PM   
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I posted this is another thread coz im dumb so im putting it in the right one.

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Last of the Mohicans was a 12 or even a PG at first I think as I remember going to see this with my mum & dad when I was about 10 or 11 as thats how old I was at the time of its release. It may be a 15 now but crikey its brutal, with hearts getting cut of of chests and eaten and people getting their skulls smashed in and de-bowelled etc.. I'm baffled as to how my folks got me into the cinema.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 11/5/2011 7:12:20 PM   
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Hanna is a bit strong for a '12' BUUUUT I don't think it should have been a '15' either.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 11/5/2011 10:41:43 PM   
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Hanna is a bit strong for a '12' BUUUUT I don't think it should have been a '15' either.

It's rated 15A in Ireland.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 13/5/2011 9:49:16 AM   
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Definitely Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan for the violence.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 13/5/2011 1:19:35 PM   
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Recently saw Centurion (Neil Marshall's last film - 2010 ) on Sky and it made me squirm at times. Vicious battle scenes and decapitations galore. I was shocked that it just a 15.


That's probably because the gore is quite tongue in cheek.


The very graphic beheading certainly isn't...


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 13/5/2011 1:25:47 PM   
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Violence that happens in what is quite clearly not our world or, in this case, historical violence tends to get a bit of a pass. Usually, not always though.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 13/5/2011 1:39:05 PM   
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Violence that happens in what is quite clearly not our world or, in this case, historical violence tends to get a bit of a pass. Usually, not always though.



Yeah. I think because it's necessary violence, as in they're just showing how it actually was.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 15/5/2011 12:05:35 AM   
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Talking of 15s Whats the deal with Robin Hood (2010)? The dvd DC is 12 yet the Blu Ray DC is a 15?

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 15/5/2011 2:08:30 AM   
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Talking of 15s Whats the deal with Robin Hood (2010)? The dvd DC is 12 yet the Blu Ray DC is a 15?


Maybe the extras on the BD are a bit different and there's some 15 ish stuff in there.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 15/5/2011 10:58:05 AM   
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Slither always surprised me. Especially with the guy getting cut in half an' all.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 15/5/2011 11:21:43 AM  1 votes
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Talking of 15s Whats the deal with Robin Hood (2010)? The dvd DC is 12 yet the Blu Ray DC is a 15?


Maybe the extras on the BD are a bit different and there's some 15 ish stuff in there.


yeah thats possible as it appears the DCs are exactly the same on both. Crowe is probably fing and blinding on some doc on BR.

the dvd to the normally PG Star Trek IV is a 15 and that must be due to the extras (i think real life footage of whales being killed). it had me confused at first thinking theyd released some new ultra violent version of Voyage Home!

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 16/5/2011 6:50:01 AM   
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Watched 30 days of night again last night and that beheading should surely have got it an 18???

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 16/5/2011 11:35:03 AM   
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 16/5/2011 9:11:28 PM   
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Watched 30 days of night again last night and that beheading should surely have got it an 18???


It was upgraded to 18 on DVD.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 16/5/2011 9:16:38 PM   
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Forgot about PLATOON... very hard-going in places.


I'm sure I read somewhere that Stone himself wrote to the BBFC requesting it be rated 15 instead of 18.

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