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The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 5:25:41 PM   
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Out of curiosity what does everyone here believe to be the strongest film ever to be rated 15 by the BBFC?
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 5:35:13 PM   
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What do you think it could be? 

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 5:37:40 PM   
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I was waiting to see what others said, although I think it's probably either Land Of The Dead or Kick-Ass.

The Final Destination also has a couple of scenes that I'm surprised made it into a 15 too.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 5:44:17 PM   
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I would have said Land of the Daed or Kick Ass too, actually. Maybe the House of Wax remake too, I remember a couple of the kills being a bit strong. 

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 6:35:03 PM   
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I watched Kick Ass yesterday, and I whilst watching, I did think it must be one of the strongest 15s.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 6:42:39 PM   
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30 Days of Night was quite vicious and that as a 15 in the cinema. They raised it to an 18 on dvd though. 

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 6:47:20 PM   
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 I wouldn't say Kick-Ass, was pretty tame for the most part, 30 Days Of Night however, yeah, gory.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 6:48:48 PM   
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I wouldn't say Kick-Ass, was pretty tame for the most part,


But it's the part that wasn't tame that pushes it over.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 6:50:14 PM   
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 Starship Troopers was a 15 when it opened in cinemas. How?

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 7:26:57 PM   
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It seems to be mainly sex and nudity that gains a 18 rating nowadays. Bloody violence and extreme swearing, pah, the kids see it every day in the school playground.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 8:44:29 PM   
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 One of the sad signs of getting older is I never even notice what certificate a film gets anymore.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 10:34:03 PM   
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It seems to be mainly sex and nudity that gains a 18 rating nowadays. Bloody violence and extreme swearing, pah, the kids see it every day in the school playground.


Try telling that to the Saw films

Also, going in the opposite direction of my OP, I'd say the mildest 15 rated film is probably either Couples Retreat or Frost/Nixon (the latter of which is rated PG in Ireland!)

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 30/4/2011 10:47:54 PM   
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It seems to be mainly sex and nudity that gains a 18 rating nowadays. Bloody violence and extreme swearing, pah, the kids see it every day in the school playground.


Try telling that to the Saw films

Also, going in the opposite direction of my OP, I'd say the mildest 15 rated film is probably either Couples Retreat or Frost/Nixon (the latter of which is rated PG in Ireland!)


Both of those were 12s I believe.

If it was up to me, 18 would be the default and then you only get it reduced for being nice.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 12:32:40 AM   
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Pans Labyrinth.  I'm squeamish at the best of times but one of the opening scenes to a film has a shot of a man having his face bottled nearly made me just go and ask for my money back and spend it on jelly beans instead.  I used to say I couldn't watch 18 cert films in case of goriness but after this (and The Town, great film but would be my number 2 for 'strongest' 15) I might have to stick with nice, gentle 'moderate violence, adult themes and sustained peril' 12A's

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 12:56:32 AM   
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Also, going in the opposite direction of my OP, I'd say the mildest 15 rated film is probably either Couples Retreat or Frost/Nixon (the latter of which is rated PG in Ireland!)


Both of those were 12s I believe.


No, they were both 15s. Couples Retreat for sex references and Frost/Nixon for language


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 12:57:29 AM   
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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:12:56 AM   
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Pans Labyrinth.  I'm squeamish at the best of times but one of the opening scenes to a film has a shot of a man having his face bottled nearly made me just go and ask for my money back and spend it on jelly beans instead.  I used to say I couldn't watch 18 cert films in case of goriness but after this (and The Town, great film but would be my number 2 for 'strongest' 15) I might have to stick with nice, gentle 'moderate violence, adult themes and sustained peril' 12A's


I've seen much stronger violence in 15's than the scene in Pan's Labyrinth you described. The violent scenes were fairly strong although they were few and far between.

I didn't think The Town was particularly strong for a 15 either. If you're on about the quantity of strong language in the film, the f-word can be used as many times as you like in a 15. It's the c-word that the BBFC have a problem with, especially when used aggressively. I think the recent spate of Hollywood comedies with very large appeal containing 100+ f-words (Knocked Up, Funny People, etc) have helped the BBFC loosen their language guidelines at 15.

The sexual content in Love And Other Drugs certainly pushes the limits of what's acceptable at 15. There's several sex scenes (including one in the film's opening scene!), most of which show a fair amount of detail, including sexualised female nudity. I would have passed the film at 15, but I'm kinda surprised the BBFC did.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:37:20 AM   
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Pans Labyrinth.  I'm squeamish at the best of times but one of the opening scenes to a film has a shot of a man having his face bottled nearly made me just go and ask for my money back and spend it on jelly beans instead.  I used to say I couldn't watch 18 cert films in case of goriness but after this (and The Town, great film but would be my number 2 for 'strongest' 15) I might have to stick with nice, gentle 'moderate violence, adult themes and sustained peril' 12A's


Blimey, man up.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:39:04 AM   
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Pans Labyrinth.  I'm squeamish at the best of times but one of the opening scenes to a film has a shot of a man having his face bottled nearly made me just go and ask for my money back and spend it on jelly beans instead.  I used to say I couldn't watch 18 cert films in case of goriness but after this (and The Town, great film but would be my number 2 for 'strongest' 15) I might have to stick with nice, gentle 'moderate violence, adult themes and sustained peril' 12A's


I've seen much stronger violence in 15's than the scene in Pan's Labyrinth you described. The violent scenes were fairly strong although they were few and far between.

I didn't think The Town was particularly strong for a 15 either. If you're on about the quantity of strong language in the film, the f-word can be used as many times as you like in a 15. It's the c-word that the BBFC have a problem with, especially when used aggressively. I think the recent spate of Hollywood comedies with very large appeal containing 100+ f-words (Knocked Up, Funny People, etc) have helped the BBFC loosen their language guidelines at 15.

The sexual content in Love And Other Drugs certainly pushes the limits of what's acceptable at 15. There's several sex scenes (including one in the film's opening scene!), most of which show a fair amount of detail, including sexualised female nudity. I would have passed the film at 15, but I'm kinda surprised the BBFC did.


So a 12 year old girl saying using the "c word" to taunt a group of drug dealers doesn't come into that description


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:41:47 AM   
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It's the c-word that the BBFC have a problem with, especially when used aggressively.


So a 12 year old girl saying using the "c word" to taunt a group of drug dealers doesn't come into that description



No, she said it playfully not angrily.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:53:02 AM   
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 Can everyone stop referring to the word 'cunt' as 'the c-word' please? It's four letters, everyone says it, get over it. You cunts.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:59:20 AM   
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Starship Troopers was a 15 when it opened in cinemas. How?


First film I thought of when I read the thread title.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 1:24:35 PM   
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Can everyone stop referring to the word 'cunt' as 'the c-word' please? It's four letters, everyone says it, get over it. You cunts.


I only put 'the c-word' because I didn't know if 'cunt' would be censored on these boards.


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Starship Troopers was a 15 when it opened in cinemas. How?


First film I thought of when I read the thread title.



I thought Starship Troopers was fine at 15, it was pretty much all fantasy violence in a very unrealistic context.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 4:33:25 PM   
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The Double life of Veronique was pretty explicit for a 15 if I recall.
Glengarry Glenross in terms of harsh language, given that the whole film is just men saying fuck you to each other with some cunt bombs at the end.
Come and See is a pretty tuff 15, though it dosn't have anything that's really bad on show, it does have a real sense of unpleasant aurthentisity about it.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 7:09:20 PM   
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 I remember Robocop being a 15 at one point. Whether that was when it was for rental I can't remember. But that is pretty graphic. Even more so for its time.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 7:20:13 PM   
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I remember Robocop being a 15 at one point. Whether that was when it was for rental I can't remember. But that is pretty graphic. Even more so for its time.


The first Robocop has never been a 15. The third film and the tv mini-series are though


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 7:32:06 PM   
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Oh, and if we are basing it on language, then Boys On The Side (1995) is a 15 but it's usage of the word cunt is in the double digits.


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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 9:38:48 PM   
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30 Days of Night was quite vicious and that as a 15 in the cinema. They raised it to an 18 on dvd though. 


That was the first film that came to my mind. Full-on graphic beheading on-screen amongst other things. Couldn't believe it was a 15.

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 10:42:22 PM   
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Oh, and if we are basing it on language, then Boys On The Side (1995) is a 15 but it's usage of the word cunt is in the double digits.



That sounds like it would probably be an 18 now. How many uses are there?

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RE: The Strongest 15 Certificate Film? - 1/5/2011 10:58:08 PM   
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There's a lot, plus it is spelled out a couple of times. I doubt they'd make it an 18 today as it is used in conversation between two women about female genatalia. One woman is ashamed to say it but her friend persaudes her and the shy woman ends up singing the word. It's not agressive in the least so that is why it was allowed. Plus, this was the 90s, when they were still cutting the word 'fuck' from films so I think this one is fine.

I can't find a clip of the scene on youtube, oddly.


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