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Scream 4 - 14/4/2011 4:21:12 PM   
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Another view please! - 14/4/2011 4:21:12 PM   
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Im sorry but giving scream 4 a worse rating than scream 3 is ludicrous! at least give it a 3 stars it dosent deserve such a low rating and its alot better than red riding hood than has 3 stars. Please get someone who's reviewed or even likes scream films to review, like kim newman please. 4 stars for the film as its just as good as scream 2! 1 star would be given to you!

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Another view please! - 14/4/2011 4:32:53 PM   
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Im sorry but giving scream 4 a worse rating than scream 3 is ludicrous! at least give it a 3 stars it dosent deserve such a low rating and its alot better than red riding hood than has 3 stars. Please get someone who's reviewed or even likes scream films to review, like kim newman please. 4 stars for the film as its just as good as scream 2! 1 star would be given to you!

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Scary - 14/4/2011 4:35:34 PM   
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I was initially a little scared by the 2 stars but seeing as the reviewer makes quite generous nods to the Saw and Scary Movie films I remain hopeful

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RE: Scary - 14/4/2011 4:50:01 PM   
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It's only a star rating.

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RE: Scream 4 - 14/4/2011 6:03:06 PM   
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Can Kim Newman just do his own review as well? Really like to hear what his take on it is as he's one of the few reviewers who "gets" comedy in horror. He won't give something a low score if it's trashy, just if it's bad at being trash. Like the 4/5 he gave Jason X which was well deserved imo!

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RE: Scary - 14/4/2011 6:09:50 PM   
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I was initially a little scared by the 2 stars but seeing as the reviewer makes quite generous nods to the Saw and Scary Movie films I remain hopeful


I'm not sure I'd call them favourable nods - just that 15 certificate-esque stab deaths are a bit tame next to the Saw stuff (and probably even the goriness off the first couple of Scream films).

Very true of course that It's only a star rating but ignoring that, that review indicates what I (and surely many others with an ounce of cynicism) was expecting from a belated, unnecessary 4th installment in a series with a now slightly passé concept.

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marc - 14/4/2011 6:12:59 PM   
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i havent seen scream 4 yet (watching it saturday), & i cant wait.
i'm ignoring this review as it seems that the reviewer is more into torture porn than a horror film with characters and story so i havent been put off in the slightest, i'll be watching it nervous at the outcome of the scream trio and hoping there's a good twist in the mix... i'll give it a 4 just due to excitement lol

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marc - 14/4/2011 6:15:12 PM   
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i havent seen scream 4 yet (watching it saturday), & i cant wait.
i'm ignoring this review as it seems that the reviewer is more into torture porn than a horror film with characters and story so i havent been put off in the slightest, i'll be watching it nervous at the outcome of the scream trio and hoping there's a good twist in the mix... i'll give it a 4 just due to excitement lol

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RE: marc - 14/4/2011 6:56:03 PM   
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It's not really much of a review is it?  He just talks about the first 3 movies for half of it, then starts comparing it to other horror movies (and on that note, I have to say that Saw is not better than Scream).  The whole thing reads with an aura of 'I-can't-be-bothered-and-I-was-in-a-bad-mood-when-I-watched-it.'  Anyway, I'm not going to have my hopes dashed by this review.  Tomorrow I shall be back, and hopefully be giving this at least four stars.  

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RE: Scream 4 - 14/4/2011 7:24:32 PM   
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I will be honest! When I saw the trailer I could smell a stinker.

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- 14/4/2011 7:32:50 PM   
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IGN have rated it four stars, Total film three stars.

This is a terrible review. It doesn't even sound like he's watched it.


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RE: Scream 4 - 14/4/2011 7:35:13 PM   
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Despite the lukewarm review, I'm still interested in this. I'm a fan of Craven and the Scream movies. Yes, even the third one.

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RE: - 14/4/2011 7:56:59 PM   
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IGN have rated it four stars, Total film three stars.

This is a terrible review. It doesn't even sound like he's watched it.




And you have?

Also its Wes "When did he last make a decent movie" Craven, and the fourth installment of a horror franchise. It ain't exactly going to be a shock if this isn't good.


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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 8:23:42 PM   
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Also its Wes "When did he last make a decent movie" Craven, and the fourth installment of a horror franchise. It ain't exactly going to be a shock if this isn't good.



Red Eye was fun. Well, I thought it was anyway.

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 8:27:16 PM   
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Ah, yes, the inevitable reviews of the review by reviewers who haven't seen the film. Very IMDB. I'll catch it on DVD in a few months.

The reviewer is definitely wrong about one thing, though. House is a great movie.

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 8:30:19 PM   
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It is going to take a lot for a movie to beat Black Swan as best horror of the year. 

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 8:33:25 PM   
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Ah, yes, the inevitable reviews of the review by reviewers who haven't seen the film. Very IMDB. I'll catch it on DVD in a few months.



At least they're not speculating on an actor's sexuality. You have to give them that much.

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RE: - 14/4/2011 8:54:32 PM   
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IGN have rated it four stars, Total film three stars.

This is a terrible review. It doesn't even sound like he's watched it.




That's absurd.  Is the reviewer supposed to just agree with the others?  Do you?

This is one persons opinion, thousands will have their's. 


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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 9:00:14 PM   
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quote:

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IGN have rated it four stars, Total film three stars.

This is a terrible review. It doesn't even sound like he's watched it.




That's absurd.  Is the reviewer supposed to just agree with the others?  Do you?

This is one persons opinion, thousands will have their's. 



That's true, it is just one persons opinion, but can you honestly agree with him in that Saw is a better movie franchise than Scream?  I think the reason a lot of people are complaining (me included), is because it's literally a bad review.  Even if, as he says, the film turns out to be crap, the review is still rubbish because he's barely talked about the film and what's actually wrong with it.  It's already a short review without him spending half of it giving a breif history of the previous three...


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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 9:59:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whistler

quote:

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quote:

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IGN have rated it four stars, Total film three stars.

This is a terrible review. It doesn't even sound like he's watched it.




That's absurd.  Is the reviewer supposed to just agree with the others?  Do you?

This is one persons opinion, thousands will have their's. 



That's true, it is just one persons opinion, but can you honestly agree with him in that Saw is a better movie franchise than Scream?  I think the reason a lot of people are complaining (me included), is because it's literally a bad review.  Even if, as he says, the film turns out to be crap, the review is still rubbish because he's barely talked about the film and what's actually wrong with it.  It's already a short review without him spending half of it giving a breif history of the previous three...



"It’s not entirely witless, but after the imaginative contraption-killings of the Saw septology, watching multiple knife murders, however ironically intended, is about as thrilling as standing in line at the butcher’s — without a bag of sausages to make it worth your while"
 
To me, he's not saying that the Saw franchise is better, just that watching people get stabbed multiple times is more repetitive and monotonous than the elaborately gory deaths that Saw,for example, has produced.

Not that I'm saying Saw franchise is better (although the first one is actually a good film), I'm a fan of the first two Screams but a watered down, certificate 15 iteration of a very 90's concept just seems a bit wet compared to the style of horror films that they've moved on to now.

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- 14/4/2011 10:30:21 PM   
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Oh look...another incoherent and super pompous review from Empire. Even if Scream 4 turns out to be turd it won't be anywhere near as irritating as attempting to read the above article. Pointless anyway given they'll do their usual back track come the DVD/Blu-ray release.

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RE: - 14/4/2011 10:37:00 PM   
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People are really stepping up to the bat for Scream 4?


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RE: - 14/4/2011 10:41:30 PM   
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Jesus. The reviewer gave it two stars because he wasn't that keen on it. It's not rocket science.
Now, could everyone pick up their dummies and reserve judgement 'til they've actually, y'know, seen the film?

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For once I agree... - 14/4/2011 10:51:29 PM   
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I don't always go alone with Empire (T4, Avatar), but I believe they've nailed this one. Everything about this film screams of trying to wring more money out of a franchise that has outrun it's ironically spoofing cliches. The slasher genre is dead, Torture porn is dead, and handycam horror is on it's way out. This was a bad idea from the start.

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 11:39:15 PM   
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It is going to take a lot for a movie to beat Black Swan as best horror of the year. 



Black Swan is a (psychological) drama. Not a horror.

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 11:48:33 PM   
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quote:

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It is going to take a lot for a movie to beat Black Swan as best horror of the year. 



Black Swan is a (psychological) drama. Not a horror.


It is a horror in the same way that Rosemerys Baby is a horror, and the same way Suspiria is a horror. People just forget what this sort of A-Picture horror movie is like.


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RE: - 14/4/2011 11:51:13 PM   
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Oh look...another incoherent and super pompous review from Empire. Even if Scream 4 turns out to be turd it won't be anywhere near as irritating as attempting to read the above article. Pointless anyway given they'll do their usual back track come the DVD/Blu-ray release.


I have to say, there may have been some pretty long words in there. I had to take all of 120 seconds to get through it, and that's a bloody long time which I could have spent surfing message boards.

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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 11:53:39 PM   
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It is going to take a lot for a movie to beat Black Swan as best horror of the year. 



Black Swan is a (psychological) drama. Not a horror.


It is a horror in the same way that Rosemerys Baby is a horror, and the same way Suspiria is a horror. People just forget what this sort of A-Picture horror movie is like.




I've not heard of anyone involved with film or any reviewer call it a horror.


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RE: RE: - 14/4/2011 11:56:17 PM   
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quote:

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It is going to take a lot for a movie to beat Black Swan as best horror of the year. 



Black Swan is a (psychological) drama. Not a horror.


It is a horror in the same way that Rosemerys Baby is a horror, and the same way Suspiria is a horror. People just forget what this sort of A-Picture horror movie is like.




I've not heard of anyone involved with film or any reviewer call it a horror.



And yet that is what it is. And plenty of reviewers have called it a horror film.


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