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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:13:08 PM

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I can see it going up lists with more watches and longer to gestate. I plan to go through Oz from start to finish soon and I'll be watching it again then I think.

It won't be the only one I pinched from your list

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:15:24 PM

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I'm curious as to what else there'll be.

Anyone interested in seeing it - �2.99 on Amazon at the mo'.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:21:25 PM

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Last Chants thingy - that won't be. Nor will that Tea thing

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:30:14 PM

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Really? I'd have expected you to love the latter.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:36:48 PM

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Did not tickle the funny bone I'm afraid.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:39:21 PM

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So I'm guessing our crossovers will be Short Eyes and a certain Oscar winner.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:41:36 PM

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But I thought you didn't like Close Encounters?

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:45:07 PM

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I was obviously referencing your love of a certain comedy film. Annie Hall obviously.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 10:52:52 PM

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I can't see any comedys winning an Oscar that year....

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 11:00:02 PM

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Elliot Garfield will be very upset.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 11:26:08 PM

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I'll guess that 18 of my choices will appear on your list (Taking into account one is a joint entry), including 5 of my top 10. About another 5 I'm not sure.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 14/3/2011 11:30:36 PM

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I'd be surprised if it's that high, to be honest. I'd say around 13/14 crossovers.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 9:41:31 AM

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45.
Jabberwocky
(Terry Gilliam)

After the death of his father, Dennis Cooper (Michael Palin) leaves his small medieval village to find employment. He discovers that a monster called a Jabberwocky is terrorizing the Kingdom. The Kingdom is led by Bruno the Questionable (Max Wall) The King and his advisor (John Le Mesurier) hold a tournament to find a champion to face the Jabberwock, giving the princess and land as a reward. Dennis soon finds himself chosen as a squire for the King's champion, and forced to go out to face the beast. But the townsfolk don't necessarily want the Jabberwock dead, they're all profiting from increased business due to the fear of the monster and they hit on a plan to stop the champion. Jabberwocky is an odd film, and one that comes in for an incredible amount of unjust criticism. It's obviously a transition film, still Python-esque at times, but also starting to feeling uniquely Gilliam. Despite its rich cast of comedy stars, it's not a straight comedy. It has a dark and stifling edge that plays against the cheeriness of Palin's performance. What I like so much about it is it's not afraid to really embrace the era. It feels disgusting, every scene filled with filth and mud and it creates a sinister and nightmarish vibe that creates a believable world and actually fits the material perfectly.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 9:45:35 AM

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 9:45:59 AM

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Great film!

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 9:55:12 AM

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I was expecting dislike.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 10:06:04 AM

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I counted it as a match.

I think it would have been even better if Jones had been involved, mind. You can't help but think he added something extra when they dealt with this kind of period.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 2:39:51 PM

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Well he did have a cameo.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 2:42:14 PM

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I really like his history shows/books on the period. And that lovely defence of Holy Grail as including many completely historically correct aspects

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 2:48:03 PM

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Was it one of the ones you were expecting to match? Because I had it in my head you disliked it for some reason.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 15/3/2011 4:15:52 PM

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Yup to the first part.

Jabberwocky generally varies on me - I think sometimes I've watched it and genuinely not been in the mood and muttered nasty things at the screen. Caught in the mood I love it. Particularly Le Mesurier.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 16/3/2011 11:56:10 AM

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44.
The Private Files of J. Edgar Hoover
(Larry Cohen)

Cohen's take on the life of Hoover chronicles his career from his appointment as FBI director until his death in the early 70s. It covers the big events in his life, from the prohibition years through the Dillinger slaying, the communist witch hunts, his wiretapping of Martin Luther King and his relationship with the Kennedys. It's fair to say that Hoover isn't given a pleasant portrayal. Every single rumour ever uttered about the man is collected here, he's portrayed as a mean-spirited, vindictive, hateful, blackmail, self-loathing arsehole, probably gay and tortured about that sexuality. The casting of Broderick Crawford was inspired, there's something grotesque about his performance as the embodies the dangers of power. Cohen never loses sight of his exploitation roots. There's a lot of cheap psychology about Hoover suffering from a domineering mother who warped his views on sexuality. He's also depicted as someone who gets his kicks from spying on others and then using the information he's gained to blackmail them. It's not Cohen's best work, but a powerhouse performance from Crawford and a genuinely enthralling screenplay make this a brilliant piece of entertainment.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 16/3/2011 12:43:04 PM

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I should rewatch this really, an interesting choice. It also reminds me that I haven't put God Told Me To in the Top 100 thread yet.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 16/3/2011 12:53:27 PM

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If you didn't like it I'd advise you not to include it or I'll call you an idiot again.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 16/3/2011 12:57:50 PM

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Elements of wibbly-wobblyness but 2/3rds is great.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 16/3/2011 1:28:35 PM

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is great.

Better.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 17/3/2011 12:21:26 AM

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Welcome to Blood City (Sasdy, 1977)

Five strangers wake up with no memory of who they are their only possession being a card telling them how many people they've killed. Introduced to Blood City by Sheriff Jack Palance, the remainder of the group are fed the odd set of rules laid down for citizens and slaves and where women are at something of a premium.

The makers give the game away pretty quickly � we already know there's something off as the first shot is a modern city so it isn't a spoiler to refer to this as science-fiction and early in the film we are given a fair idea of what the set-up is, if not the motivation. You end up with this slightly 'meta' aspect of the film with an analysis of western stereotypes being discussed objectively by scientists working for the state while also being subverted by personal motivation of game players with avatars playing out their own conflict. The reason for the whole thing being probably not unconnected to what was done to normal Americans to turn them into soldiers in Vietnam. Which may make it sound a lot more intellectual than it is � sometimes linked to Westworld partly because of the combination of Sci Fi and western and partly because of a chase scene near the end, Blood City is a fun and quite imaginative little film which is pure hokum with Jack Palance thoroughly enjoying himself and a very decent dual performance from Samantha Eggar.

There's also a really amusing shot of a cat freaked out by a gunshot.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 17/3/2011 12:30:38 AM

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A Doonesbury Special (Hubleys, 1977)

"Ella Fitzgerald is not a building contractor"

This entry is one that I can't help but be fond of. I'm a massive fan of the Doonesbury strip cartoon (I even got the even more massive 'would kill you if it fell on you' Doonesbury 40 Retrospective at Xmas). But unlike many strips where the characters remain eternally the same age/status with new stuff happening to them every day, the characters in Doonesbury have aged with the years and the strip (with a bit of a jump at one point) followed them � from the Walden Commune, through wars, families, politics etc. So your first experience with such a large cast of interconnected characters can be quite disorientating for quite a while until you start to get a feel for how these people happen to know each other and what the links are.

A Doonesbury Special is one of the links in that chain for people like me who started to read the strip only in the last decade. Written by Trudeau it was Oscar nominated in its year (and even won a prize at Cannes). Whether those were for the animation itself or for the general work on Doonesbury I wouldn't want to guess. Although clearly an animation for fans the general humour should make it accessible to anyone � whether BDs right-wing love for a fight, Zonker's stoned out philosophical discussions mid-football game, or the wry look at sexual and racial politics at the daycare centre.

It feels very odd hearing characters you know from cartoon strips get voices. Inevitably Garfield now sounds like Lorenzo Music to me and that fits fine. It's not quite the same with this, being just a one-off, but if I was to put voices to most of these characters I'd say the Hubley's and Trudeau were, understandably, spot on � particularly Zonker.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/5YHrlnHWwoc/

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 17/3/2011 3:16:25 PM

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43.
Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea
(Jindrich Polak)

A group of Nazis has used anti-ageing pills to survive into the 1990s. The Universum company has created the possibility of time travel, offering it to tourists and school parties. They're under strict conditions, they can't leave the time machine and they have to strictly observe and not get involved. The Nazis have another plan. Led by Klaus Abard, he plans to land in 40s Germany and give Hitler the gift of a hydrogen bomb to help him win the war. They bribe the pilot, Karel, to let them get off the craft, but the morning of the trip he dies. Karel has a twin brother, Jan, also a pilot, who decides to assume his identity because he fancies his girlfriend. When Jan discovers the plan he tries to put things right with frequent trips in time, never quite managing to right his brother's wrong.

It's a shame that this rather bonkers little film is so little known. Its low profile in the UK (although it's fondly remembered by those who caught a rare early 80s BBC2 screening) probably hasn't helped. It's endlessly inventive, especially in little throwaway moments and it's the kind of clever and funny sci-fi mindbender that should go down a storm with Back to the Future fans. Throw in some excellent performances, especially from Petr Kostka as the twin brothers, and you have one of the great sci-fi comedies.

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RE: Rawlinson & Elab's top 50s of the year 1977 - 17/3/2011 3:17:43 PM

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One of the things I like so much about 77 is that we have very different lists, but I still really like most of your choices so far. There was just so much variety.

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