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RE: Battle LA - 10/3/2011 2:33:16 PM   
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Roger Ebert just posted a scathing half-star review of the film, calling it " an assault on the attention span of a generation"! I was going to check it out this weekend, but the stink is just too bad. Ebert signs off with the following declaration -

"Young men: If you attend this crap with friends who admire it, tactfully inform them they are idiots. Young women: If your date likes this movie, tell him you've been thinking it over, and you think you should consider spending some time apart."




http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110309/REVIEWS/110309992

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RE: Battle LA - 10/3/2011 3:22:11 PM   
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That's better than his Valentine's Day review.

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"Valentine's Day" is being marketed as a Date Movie. I think it's more of a First-Date Movie. If your date likes it, do not date that person again. And if you like it, there may not be a second date.


O Ebert, you soothed my disappointment with laughs....


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RE: Battle LA - 10/3/2011 6:44:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82

Roger Ebert just posted a scathing half-star review of the film, calling it " an assault on the attention span of a generation"! I was going to check it out this weekend, but the stink is just too bad. Ebert signs off with the following declaration -

"Young men: If you attend this crap with friends who admire it, tactfully inform them they are idiots. Young women: If your date likes this movie, tell him you've been thinking it over, and you think you should consider spending some time apart."




http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110309/REVIEWS/110309992


Yes, I had read that review earlier. I'm at peace with my new found idiocy, I'm sure I'll enjoy it!

That's not the worst of it though. At the time of writing, it's accumulated a 35% approval rating by various critics on Rotten Tomatoes (click). The positive reviews seem lukewarm at best. I think the bulk of them acknowledge the spectacle of the whole thing and the technical wizadry that went into making the visual effects. However, the story and characters are apparently rather shallow and the characters are actually fairly anonymous. In addition some of the dialogue is meant to be clichéd and troped (sic) to infinity! (According to the guy on "Film 2011 " last night!). My guess is it'll be received the same as "Terminator: Salvation". Not greatly enjoyed by the critics but perhaps it'll receive a more kinder response by the general public. I'm still looking forward to it, I just know not to expect dialogue and characters along the lines of "The King's Speech". As long as it delivers on the spectacle and 'battle porn' front, I'll be content! Oh, not to mention stupid.

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- 10/3/2011 7:02:50 PM   
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Skyline 2: More Crap
I have't seen this movie yet but I expected some another bullshit.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 10/3/2011 9:58:28 PM   
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I can't decide if I should see this or not. I love going to see popcorn fodder, but I am having flashbacks of Transformers 2 where the spectacular action in now way made up for a diabolical script.

I'll probably go, then whine about it later.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 10/3/2011 11:43:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jrewing1000

I can't decide if I should see this or not. I love going to see popcorn fodder, but I am having flashbacks of Transformers 2 where the spectacular action in now way made up for a diabolical script.

I'll probably go, then whine about it later.


Well, the thing with "Transformers 2" was it had 'racially offensive stereotypes', a bit too much sleaze with lascivious shots of Megan Fox's body and a shot of Devastator's metallic balls. So that went against it quite a bit too and it was too uneven. The middle part did sag and so it felt a little languid. Yes the script was awful too. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the actor Ramon Rodriguez who played Leo ('crazy' roomate') is in the film. He plays the Lieutenant of the marine platoon. I think the worst I've heard about "Battle: LA" is that it has cliché dialogue, weak characters and that there's very little plot beyond going from one firefight to the next one. However, as long as it doesn't border on the inane as "T2" did then hopefully it'll be entertaining at least. I really like alien invasion films so I may be kinder on the film than most. If the spectacle is good enough at least then I'll come away entertained.


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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 12:24:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

Well, the thing with "Transformers 2" was it had 'racially offensive stereotypes', a bit too much sleaze with lascivious shots of Megan Fox's body and a shot of Devastator's metallic balls. So that went against it quite a bit too and it was too uneven. The middle part did sag and so it felt a little languid. Yes the script was awful too. I'm sure you'll be pleased to know that the actor Ramon Rodriguez who played Leo ('crazy' roomate') is in the film. He plays the Lieutenant of the marine platoon. I think the worst I've heard about "Battle: LA" is that it has cliché dialogue, weak characters and that there's very little plot beyond going from one firefight to the next one. However, as long as it doesn't border on the inane as "T2" did then hopefully it'll be entertaining at least. I really like alien invasion films so I may be kinder on the film than most. If the spectacle is good enough at least then I'll come away entertained.



I don't know, even Ebert gave T2 a whole star. Besides, since when was holding a film up to that film a benchmark of quality? Battle : LA looks to have followed Skyline in the "interesting premise/terrible execution" tradition.

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RE: Reviews! - 11/3/2011 5:13:52 AM   
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Not seen the film yet, some interesting comments here though. Firstly I would say Empire gets it right 9 times from 10. Although I'm still shocked at the 3 stars 300 got, clearly a much better film- perhaps a bird reviewed that one? Bbut can't remember. This does feel like a can’t be arsed review, Kim’s obviously bored of watching all action no story films, I haven't seen this yet but I’m guessing it will look and sound great but have no real story, oh well that’s o.k. to be honest I don’t always feel like a mind bogging head fucker of a movie so low maintenance viewing is o.k., now again,

Lets watch and review.



Couldn't leave that one. Sorry, so the implication is that no woman could review 300 and enjoy it; even the kind of woman who would have a job at Empire? They don't just get lost on the way to Sugar magazine, you know.

On the topic of Battle:LA, if this review is accurate, that's pretty disappointing. Thought the trailers looked really promising, and reminded me of - as others have said - District 9, and Cloverfield, both of which I loved (despite my uterus! Who knew!). Got an unlimited card, so I might still give it a go, but it doesn't look like this is going to be the film I hoped it would be. Boo.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 9:33:47 AM   
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I don't know, even Ebert gave T2 a whole star. Besides, since when was holding a film up to that film a benchmark of quality? Battle : LA looks to have followed Skyline in the "interesting premise/terrible execution" tradition.



Who said I was holding Battle:LA up to T2 as a benchmark of quality? :)
Quite the opposite, I was using it as an argument against seeing Battle:LA! I've been lured by spectacular action in the past and regretted it (like T2).

Screw it, I'm going. What kind of movie fan would I be if I didn't let my own eyes decide? I'll report back on whether or not I started throwing my popcorn at the screen.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 9:42:42 AM   
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Lets just nip this in the bud now shall we.  Transformers 2 is not T2!

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 9:45:31 AM   
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Lets just nip this in the bud now shall we.  Transformers 2 is not T2!


It is in this thread!

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 10:23:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: adambatman82


I don't know, even Ebert gave T2 a whole star. Besides, since when was holding a film up to that film a benchmark of quality? Battle : LA looks to have followed Skyline in the "interesting premise/terrible execution" tradition.



Who said I was holding Battle:LA up to T2 as a benchmark of quality? :)
Quite the opposite, I was using it as an argument against seeing Battle:LA! I've been lured by spectacular action in the past and regretted it (like T2).



Erm, not me. I was referring to Emyr's comment, hence why I quoted him.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 10:59:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adambatman82
I don't know, even Ebert gave T2 a whole star. Besides, since when was holding a film up to that film a benchmark of quality? Battle : LA looks to have followed Skyline in the "interesting premise/terrible execution" tradition.


He also gave "2012" 3.5/5 stars, "Kick-Ass" 1 star, "The Day After Tomorrow" 3 stars and "The Thing" 2.5 stars. I wasn't comparing the films, I merely offered some caveats from his mention of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen". I'm much more looking forward to hear Dr. Mark Kermode's comments later on Radio 5 live, I know he will offer a scathing review of it.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 1:06:03 PM   
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Just watched it. Black Hawk Down + Cloverfield + Saving Private Ryan + Skyline = Battle Los Angeles. Less than the sum of it's parts and so many plotholes I don't even know where to begin after just one viewing, but the battle scenes are entertaining enough in a cliched, predictable way and the effects are well done (though that's par for the course these days). 2/5 is probably fair.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 3:19:24 PM   
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Saw it this afternoon. Ok, so it is't a groundbreaker in film terms, but I found it entertaining enough. If you're aware of the basic premise and the title, you pretty much get exactly that. It certainly isn't the car crash some reviewers have made it out to be. Aaron Eckhart was decent enough, the set pieces were slickly done and I liked the alien designs. This is one film that will lose half a star from my rating if viewed at home. The sound effects are incredible and are a massive part of this cinematic experience. HUGE LAST ACT SPOILER TO FOLLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






I actually had the biggest issue with the ending. Fine, if you break it down, the film borrows from lots of films, but did the finale really have to be a carbon copy of Independence Day?! Destroy the command ship - win the war, blah, blah, blah...
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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 4:01:40 PM   
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Just got back from seeing it.

Nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. If you go into the cinema with low expectations you will actually enjoy this a lot more. I have to say I found the whole thing quite entertaining. It's pretty much as simple as you could get. Aliens invade, let battle commence. From then on it's exactly like Black Hawk Down with aliens. (minus a decent plot, etc etc etc)

Nothing I hadn't seen before. I didn't even mind the offending 'cliches' that everyone is complaining about. It was that kind of movie...don't see it if you hate typical action movie nonsense.

One thing I will say, whoever was in charge of the music should be fired. It was a mess. Without music, these kinds of films can be vastly improved because you're not yelled at constantly. "Feel sad here!!", "feel happy here!!", "feel dread here!!!". I didn't once feel like the music was written for picture, you could almost believe they chose tracks from several supplied, or that they didn't replace the temp tracks.

The opening battle in Saving Private Ryan is a great example of how music isn't needed to make something feel more dramatic. It would be interesting to watch this entire movie without any music. I reckon it would earn an extra star.

I'm upgrading my score to 3. It was a heck of an achievement and I'll forgive the lightweight script simply because the action really does kick ass. If you want any more than one long action sequence, and a few little bits of characterisation, you'll be disappointed.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 4:14:07 PM   
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jrewing1000, thanks for your comment. It's nice to see something written without hyperbole. I want to ask without receiving any spoilers! Do we at least get a glimpse of total war with the aliens? Usually with alien invasion films we only see one component of the conflict: i.e air battles or infantry combat. I have to say I am a sucker for music and a great score and I know some people may not like to be prompted by music when someone dies or something dramatic happens. However for me, I usually find it rousing and whilst music is there to complement the visual element of the film, I don't mind my heart/sonic strings being tugged! I do get what you mean when the music doesn't fit the film. For instance once example is "The Dark Knight". A very good soundtrack when you listen to it in the comfort of your own home but when you hear it in the film, it doesn't mesh well with the scenes. One exception being when Batman jumps off the building and grabs that guy in the clown mask.Otherwise it doesn't work. Which is a stark contrast to the first film because the music perfectly went along with what happened on screen.


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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 4:34:42 PM   
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Have just got in from seeing this and i have to say i disagree with Empire on the rating and review and with other reviews. I cant see how this movie is one star rating less than the dire Skyline which, in my opinion, was'nt far off the type of B movie that goes straight to DVD.
Battle LA felt so much bigger than Skyline in just about every department. The effects were better, the story was better, the cheesiness was'nt as obvious - although every formula was used, it was used well -, the cast was miles better, the direction was more professional ..... in fact every aspect from costume design to setting or makeup or cinematography or set designs seemed more well done than the dross that was Skyline. Im quite annoyed about Empires review to be honest which paints this movie like a piece of TV movie garbage that gets aired on SyFy.
I feel this flick should get at least 3 stars and not far off 4 so 3.5 could be a fair rating.
Empire have made the biggest mistake with this movie since they gave The Simpsons Movie 2 stars.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 4:46:16 PM   
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Thanks Beno. Unfortunately I won't be seeing the film until next Wednesday. So I have to be disciplined like a marine and just avoid spoilers as much as possible! Does the film come close to being a Marine Corps full-on and in-your-face "hoorah" as some reviews suggest? For instance, the guy on "Film 2011" said the film "came perilously close to being a recruiting ad". Just interested to know if you thought it was that overt?

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Just got back from the cinema - 11/3/2011 5:28:11 PM   
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Yes its Black Hawk Down meets Independence Day meets Private Ryan, yes the dialogue can be a bit cheesy, but what a great friday night movie. An ear drum rattling, popcorn shaking load of ballistic fun!
I can only assume Kim Neman saw a different movie ...

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Mr Newman Loses his Mind in his B movie Dungeon!! Again... - 11/3/2011 6:01:22 PM   
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Firstly, I like decent characterisation and story-key elements to the best films. Therefore this film is no classic of any genre. However, it is a well executed popcorn actioner and giving it two stars is a little mean. Kim Newman reviewed this as well as Skyline- a similar beast of inner city jungle warfare with alien Protagonists. He gave that dross 3 stars (majority found that movie laughably bad and I gave it 1 star). Has the real Kim Newman been taken over by some alien parasite feeding off his brain- robbing him of the ability to give a balanced review? Methinks so....

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 6:49:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

Thanks Beno. Unfortunately I won't be seeing the film until next Wednesday. So I have to be disciplined like a marine and just avoid spoilers as much as possible! Does the film come close to being a Marine Corps full-on and  in-your-face "horrah" as some reviews suggest? For instance, the guy on "Film 2011" said the film "came perilously close to being a recruiting ad". Just interested to know if you thought it was that overt?



I wouldnt say that but i get the implication. Them Yanks do like to beat their chests a great deal when it comes to army malarky.



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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 7:03:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Beno

Have just got in from seeing this and i have to say i disagree with Empire on the rating and review and with other reviews. I cant see how this movie is one star rating less than the dire Skyline which, in my opinion, was'nt far off the type of B movie that goes straight to DVD.
Battle LA felt so much bigger than Skyline in just about every department. The effects were better, the story was better, the cheesiness was'nt as obvious - although every formula was used, it was used well -, the cast was miles better, the direction was more professional ..... in fact every aspect from costume design to setting or makeup or cinematography or set designs seemed more well done than the dross that was Skyline. Im quite annoyed about Empires review to be honest which paints this movie like a piece of TV movie garbage that gets aired on SyFy.
I feel this flick should get at least 3 stars and not far off 4 so 3.5 could be a fair rating.
Empire have made the biggest mistake with this movie since they gave The Simpsons Movie 2 stars.


Beno, your review is exactly on the money.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 7:31:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

I want to ask without receiving any spoilers! Do we at least get a glimpse of total war with the aliens?



No spoiler alert needed in saying that the movie plays like Black Hawk Down, we witness the action from the Marines' perspective. We still get an idea of the overall battle through communications with the commanding officers, news briefings etc. But the main thrust of the action is from the ground soldier's POV. It works well.

I love my heart strings being tugged, and in fact - I have to be honest and say there are a few moments in this movie where the music pushes the emotion in the right ways, mostly in the character setups which actually work quite well in their own simple ways. But too much music, especially during battle scenes, overplays the drama for me. There's just no need to yell 'this is danger!!!' when you are watching a bunch of soldiers getting their asses kicked.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 7:34:13 PM   
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One other thing I was disappointed with, was that the city of Los Angeles isn't really featured much. I mean, it could have been anywhere. It would have been nice to play with the location more, even though it has been done to death. No sign of the Hollywood Sign, Sunset Strip isn't seen, Venice Beach, Santa Monica Pier, all the famous landmarks never get cameos, which for me - made it less fun.

But I'm getting the impression that most people are disagreeing with the Empire review. For sure - this movie is getting some tough press. Shame, I think it's good fun.

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 8:25:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EyupLad

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ORIGINAL: Beno

Have just got in from seeing this and i have to say i disagree with Empire on the rating and review and with other reviews. I cant see how this movie is one star rating less than the dire Skyline which, in my opinion, was'nt far off the type of B movie that goes straight to DVD.
Battle LA felt so much bigger than Skyline in just about every department. The effects were better, the story was better, the cheesiness was'nt as obvious - although every formula was used, it was used well -, the cast was miles better, the direction was more professional ..... in fact every aspect from costume design to setting or makeup or cinematography or set designs seemed more well done than the dross that was Skyline. Im quite annoyed about Empires review to be honest which paints this movie like a piece of TV movie garbage that gets aired on SyFy.
I feel this flick should get at least 3 stars and not far off 4 so 3.5 could be a fair rating.
Empire have made the biggest mistake with this movie since they gave The Simpsons Movie 2 stars.


Beno, your review is exactly on the money.



DAAAAMN!

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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 8:37:33 PM   
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No spoiler alert needed in saying that the movie plays like Black Hawk Down, we witness the action from the Marines' perspective. We still get an idea of the overall battle through communications with the commanding officers, news briefings etc. But the main thrust of the action is from the ground soldier's POV. It works well.


Do you get the impression that there is a well-coordinted joint operations strategy put in action or is it all chaotic as the military scramble to mount a defence?

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I love my heart strings being tugged, and in fact - I have to be honest and say there are a few moments in this movie where the music pushes the emotion in the right ways, mostly in the character setups which actually work quite well in their own simple ways. But too much music, especially during battle scenes, overplays the drama for me. There's just no need to yell 'this is danger!!!' when you are watching a bunch of soldiers getting their asses kicked.


I see what you mean, for you the level of immersion within the story is removed if the music becomes overbearing? As if it takes you out of the film, because rather than listening to the actual sounds of the battle, you have this heavy orchestra which drowns out the 'environmental' sounds within the film. As you say, the drama or action can be emotive enough on their own.

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One other thing I was disappointed with, was that the city of Los Angeles isn't really featured much. I mean, it could have been anywhere. It would have been nice to play with the location more, even though it has been done to death. No sign of the Hollywood Sign, Sunset Strip isn't seen, Venice Beach, Santa Monica Pier, all the famous landmarks never get cameos, which for me - made it less fun.


I think this was done on purpose so as not to be too predictable. You may have seen a few disgruntled opinions along the lines of "not L.A again!" and "we've seen this all before". By taking the 'scenic' route, you can show a different side of L.A and perhaps it's a suitable visual metaphor for the story. The battles take place in the rough underbelly of the city where the wasteland strewn suburbs are the real battlefields and where people are dying, not these landmarks which are perhaps a sign of man's vanity.

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But I'm getting the impression that most people are disagreeing with the Empire review. For sure - this movie is getting some tough press. Shame, I think it's good fun.


Unfortunately, quite a few people can be influenced by the opinions of critics. However, if a film does very well in the box office and the bulk of opinion towards the film is favourable, then the film will not suffer too much. It's strange to find that "Skyline" which I'm sure will be scoffed at much more than "Battle: LA" was given a three-star rating yet this film received a two-star rating by the same reviewer. It's odd as "Skyline" was universally panned by critics and the filmgoing public alike yet this film has been critically panned more than the aforementioned film yet the public seem to have enjoyed it more. I don't mean to use this as a platform to attack reviewers but one has to think whether critics cannot seem to 'enjoy' a film for the sake of appearing urbane and sophisticated. By being too eager to pour invective on a film's every detail.

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ORIGINAL: nortonglr

Firstly, I like decent characterisation and story-key elements to the best films. Therefore this film is no classic of any genre. However, it is a well executed popcorn actioner and giving it two stars is a little mean. Kim Newman reviewed this as well as Skyline- a similar beast of inner city jungle warfare with alien Protagonists. He gave that dross 3 stars (majority found that movie laughably bad and I gave it 1 star).


Do you not mean 'antagonists'? Or was that word use deliberately to indicate that the human characters were so bad that you eventually rooted for the aliens?!

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Has the real Kim Newman been taken over by some alien parasite feeding off his brain- robbing him of the ability to give a balanced review? Methinks so....


Haha, you did make me laugh. I'm sure if you put that question directly to Mr. Newman along with a simple test, you may provoke a rather strange reaction:

"Right Mr. Newman, I'm just going to shock you with this wire, it shouldn't hurt a bit..."

*The Thing emerges*

"Uhhh....run!"

< Message edited by Emyr Thy King -- 11/3/2011 8:39:41 PM >


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RE: Battle: Los Angeles - 11/3/2011 11:21:51 PM   
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So.Much.WIN!

Battle Los AWESOME!

:hi5:

What a film. I'll start by saying that when this film slows down it almost comes off the rails. The dialogue is pretty bad at times but the cast, especially Aaron Eckhart. just roll with it. He manages to hold everything together during a the few slower, clunkier moments. But these moments are few and far between. In fairness, I think I count two scenes without action after the invasion starts. TWO! The film is a good hour and forty minutes and it only stops for about twenty of them.

THE ALIENS ARE COMING!

When the shit hits the fan it hits big time, the film goes off like a rocket! Whoosh! It's almost entirely shot on handheld cameras, proper boots in the mud. It's a war movie, it's very much in the vein of Black Hawk Down, it's just that the enemy is a race of bio-mechanical aliens. Virtually no time is spent trying to explain where they are from or why they are here. Some theories are peppered throughout but, for the most part, it's just a film about a bunch of marines on a straightforward mission, dropped in the shit and having to deal with it.

Oh, and there's some kids in there. And some other smacks of inner turmoil but, for the most part, it's just men on a mission. With Goddamn aliens kicking arse!

So much arse kicking. This film looks like it cost more to make. Even though it follows a small group of marines, the scope is broad and the encounters varied. A few of the key sequences are truly some of the best I've seen recently. They're so good I can hardly believe this director once gave us Darkness Falls.

I just thought it was jizz worthy. Lean, mean and jizz worthy. I want to see it again. Right now.

Kim Newman must have gone bat shit crazy. If this is unoriginal... at least it's bloody good at it! Skyline was unoriginal and shit!

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2 stars my ass - 12/3/2011 12:22:55 AM   
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I just returned from the cinema to check the review
and see 2 stars come on.
One word Skyline what the hell it got 3 stars and these comments
"Technically ambitious, dramatically basic. Still, it’s a major step up from an AvP sequel and delivers all the Saturday night whizz-bang and Sunday morning brain-ripping you could want."
And that sucked big style.
Battle L.A was a bit hammy in the Dialogue
But it hit the spot for a good scifi action flick
Felt like i was watching GEARS OF WAR. SUPER STUFF
4 STARS

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Come on...this is terrible !! - 12/3/2011 6:48:40 AM   
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Shaky, vomit inducing OTT camera /zoom work...I mean, c'mon this was horrible. Even the rare 'deeper' indoor scenes had ridiculous camera zoom courtesy of a 5 year old. Take a sick bag. There is hardly any alien interaction of note until the last 20, it's just a frantic, blurry, cliche riddled attempt at a marine in conflict film. Do yourself a favour and watch Black Hawk Down and Hurt Locker instead. Eugh !!!

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