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John Carpenter's The Ward - 21/1/2011 7:43:21 PM   
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RE: John Carpenter's The Ward - 21/1/2011 10:16:40 PM   
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cool review cant wait to see this

obviously wont be as good as his classics but the reviews suggest its a return to what he does best

hopefuly carpenters got his mojo back

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RE: nearly good - 22/1/2011 3:35:56 PM   
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It just wasn't scary.


If I might ask; what do you find scary?
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RE: nearly good - 22/1/2011 10:32:43 PM   
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quote:

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It just wasn't scary.


If I might ask; what do you find scary?


Halloween.

I know it ain't fair to compare the two but The Ward wasn't even tense which isn't to say I hated it, I just found it sedate...so to speak ;) I really hope Darkchylde brings him back but judging by his statements in the Empire Interview I doubt we'll ever get the master back.

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RE: nearly good - 22/1/2011 11:04:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sephiroth7


quote:

ORIGINAL: redpaw

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It just wasn't scary.


If I might ask; what do you find scary?


Halloween.

I know it ain't fair to compare the two but The Ward wasn't even tense which isn't to say I hated it, I just found it sedate...so to speak ;) I really hope Darkchylde brings him back but judging by his statements in the Empire Interview I doubt we'll ever get the master back.


... Well I liked it! Respect though to fellow Carpenter fan, I just disagree. Take a look at some of horror's recent output; Paranormal Activity, Last Exorcism, the dreadful Saw 3D, and A Nightmare on Elm Street -- what have we got? -- cheap gimmicks, torture porn and unnecessary remakes. The Ward was just good old-fashioned 'filmmaking'. Carpenter's always favoured a more classy style of moviemaking, something that's sorely lacking in today's climate.

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RE: nearly good - 23/1/2011 8:32:46 PM   
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The Ward is like an episode of The Outer Limits with a little bit of needless gore. Could have been an effecitve Hitchcock style mystery if they had held off from some of the horror elements. 

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RE: nearly good - 24/1/2011 10:34:21 AM   
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Thought it was pretty much a by the numbers Horror movie which is a shame it's by no means my favorite genre but am a fan of Carpenter's & was hopeing for much more than this.
Also isn't Amber Heard going to end up pidgeon-holed as a bit of a Scream Queen at this rate? 

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RE: John Carpenter's The Ward - 25/1/2011 5:40:51 PM   
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Director: John Carpenter
Screenwriters: Michael Rasmussen, Shawn Rasmussen
Starring: Amber Heard, Lyndsy Fonseca, Mamie Gummer, Danielle Panabaker, Jared Harris

Synopsis
When Kristen (Heard) is placed within the ward where they keep the most mentally challenged women, she suspects that a ghost is terrorizing the patients so she attempts to escape.

Review
Ten years have passed since Ghosts of Mars, which indeed was a real low-point for John Carpenter and thus it seemed he was off the face of the map. A decade has passed and a number of the great horror filmmakers have made a comeback like Joe Dante (with The Hole in 3D) and John Landis (with Burke & Hare), and now the return of Carpenter.

With his new film The Ward, it seems that thrillers set within mental institutes are making a return as last year we had Martin Scorsese’s Shutter Island and soon we will see Zack Snyder’s upcoming Sucker Punch (which again features women trying to escape their asylum through any means necessary).

In the case of The Ward, the screenwriters haven’t broken any new ground towards this subgenre because frankly it is done to death. Whilst watching this, you will see the clichés: the newcomer, the other patients with mental problems of their own, the sinister-looking doctor, etc. However, to what the director and his cast bring to the script is something that is surprisingly watchable.

If the film was in the hands of a non-horror director, it would’ve been a trashy straight-to-DVD film and yet in the hands of Carpenter, he brings style and genuine scares to satisfy horror fans. Without spoiling the ending (although you might have an idea of who the culprit), the ghost is fairly dull on a design level and looks more like a possessed victim of The Evil Dead.

It is true that Carpenter can get great performances from his actresses like Jamie Lee Curtis and Adrienne Barbeau, and the young stars here aren’t an exception. Best known as the titular character from All the Boys Love Mandy Lane, Amber Heard has a tough exterior and is able to be a strong hero throughout the whole film. For those who are fans of Mad Men will get a pleasure at watching Jared Harris as the evil (or not) Dr Stringer, reminiscent of Donald Pleasance’s iconic performance from Halloween.

Verdict
Although its premise is nothing new, Carpenter’s stylish direction and use of scares are enough to satisfy those who have long waited for the return of this great director.

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- 26/1/2011 9:53:40 AM   
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i thought the film was just another average re-hash formulaic dull horror movie, i was expecting more from this, the whole plot felt like a bad scooby-doo story! when the protaganist was being chased by 'the ghost' the whole auditorium started to laugh! was bored by the time the end arrived & was wishing all the characters would die.

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NOT CLASSIC CARPENTER BUT...... - 26/1/2011 6:36:46 PM   
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still worth a look. Some jump out of the seat scares and a twist at the end which I didn't see coming....maybe that's just me...and the whole thing was efficiently put together with an eerily effective score. With Carpenter these days it's a case of what you see is what you get - and that's no bad thing. Give me JC over any of that modern torture porn Saw crap any day......three stars.

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RE: NOT CLASSIC CARPENTER BUT...... - 26/1/2011 7:41:24 PM   
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Give me JC over any of that modern torture porn Saw crap any day......three stars.


Here, here!

PS: Moderators, where did my original post (review) go?

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RE: NOT CLASSIC CARPENTER BUT...... - 30/1/2011 6:52:06 PM   
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Finally got to see this before it disappeared from the cinema. I'd been looking forward to seeing it at the cinema for about 18 months and this was my first time seeing a Carpenter film at the cinema. Me and my brother enjoyed it. It's not amazing, it won't appear in any top 10 films of the year but it's a decent thriller/horror with some good jump scares in there. I liked the ending twist, gave it a nice spin and the very final bit of the film made me jump haha  Good stuff. Few nice gory deaths too. Just a shame the script was probably lacking a bit in terms of dialogue but hey ho, it's not bad at all. The only silly bit was the ghost getting axed and groaning as it falls down...bit cringe worthy and laughable but oh well.


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RE: John Carpenter's The Ward - 2/2/2011 11:10:43 AM   
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this movie has good interesting storyline.

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- 26/6/2011 1:37:04 PM   
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better than sucker punch but it doesn't even come close to shutter island. A decent watch but it's carpenter past his best

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RE: John Carpenter's The Ward - 7/9/2011 8:49:17 PM   
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By no means a perfect film,or even a great Carpenter film,and no where near as bad as Escape from L.A, Village of the damned,or Ghosts of Mars.It reminded me more of Prince Of Darkness in tone,a film that worked sometimes but not 100% of the time.On the plus side i still find he has an unparalleled gift for constructing some finely crafted shocks like in Prince Of Darkness or his Master Of Horrors TV Film Cigarettes.Though the steady slow pace that almost seems stately in these days of fast-cut horror,might put some off giving this one a chance.And that would be a shame,as it is a Carpenter film that is well scripted and directed,though there are faults,it's inconsistent in keeping up the scares and tension,plus the lack of a traditional Carpenter score.But i have to say the score by Mark Kilian is suitably haunting, memorable and atmospheric,and the score with the opening credits has a haunting child-like voice that gives you the chills.

All the inmates Emily (Mamie Gummer), Sarah (Danielle Panabaker), Zoey (Laura-Leigh) and Iris (Lyndsy Fonseca) and the tough nurse Lundt (Susanna Burney) are all well acted,which is a big plus.The lead Amber Heard as Kristen also a fine performance,and keeps you watching the screen,as this haunting ghost story unfolds.And all under Carpenters great direction,with excellent cinematography,he is in his element here, creating a memorable Scary place with atmospheric tracks down ominous corridors and tight crawlspaces.The Carpenter static shots of empty areas, atmospheric montage sequences,some great tracking shots,it's all here that unique style that we have come to love.But that's a problem too because we know whats coming next even with all the red herring,trying to knock us off the scent,this is standard Carpenter chiller.

Still overall an enjoyable chiller and at 88 minutes it moves along at a decent pace,but i was expecting something a lot more terrifying. When Carpenter and Debra Hill reviewed his initial cut of The Fog back in 1979 they found it plodding and just not scary enough so he went back and re-shot scenes then re-cut it into the classic it is today. I think if Carpenter had taken the same approach with this movie it could've been up there with the best of his work,but there's no Debra around to push him in the right direction.Still it's better than those bloody remakes,plus Carpenter fans will love this,i did,though it's never going to win any awards or impress any hard nosed critics, but it does what horror movies can do so well if you let them.Skillfully blending photography, music and editing together in the way that will chill you,and a decent twist in the tail,to leave you satisfied in the end.Carpenter may work on a small scale, but he's one of the few filmmakers left who genuinely doesn't compromise his style.for as they say "It dose what it says on the tin"it's a JOHN CARPENTER FILM.

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RE: John Carpenter's The Ward - 7/9/2011 8:56:15 PM   
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Dire.Offensively bad.

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i was a carpenter fan... - 21/1/2012 3:07:00 PM   
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i couldnt believe what i watched the same guy directed Halloween... what a diappointmen

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RE: i was a carpenter fan... - 14/5/2012 1:07:56 PM   
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i couldnt believe what i watched the same guy directed Halloween... what a diappointmen


Indeed.
Carpenter lost it a while back, and here's evidence that it's not coming back in a hurry. Amateurish on every level, including the acting (with the exception of Mamie Gummer who was ok).

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