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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 31/5/2012 3:27:47 PM

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I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 31/5/2012 3:31:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

Is this satire?

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 31/5/2012 3:43:29 PM

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Oops, wrong thread...head to Prometheus film review thread!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 1/6/2012 10:11:25 AM

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Ah I am going to miss this thread....

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 1/6/2012 10:13:56 AM

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Surely there's still so much to discuss for the upcoming James Cameron epic Prometheuses?

There's unquestionably sequels to be had if the box office responds well enough.

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RE: Prometheus: Alien 0 is dead! - 1/6/2012 2:28:41 PM

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I enjoyed it. Watched it in the IMAX 3D at Braehead in Glasgow. I am not giving anything away, but I still enjoyed it despite the spoilers I knew already. Someone hit the nail on the head on the review thread saying that Alien was horror, Aliens was action, but Prometheus is a full blown sci-fi epic. Youc an see what they were trying. Ok it can't be allowed to be like 2001 because if it had little plot it wouldn't be too commercial, but it did open up and expand the Alien universe which is a good thing in itself.

Perhaps we will get more in the sequel with a look at the origin of life itself, and more about the Space Jockeys. Also I want to see more about Weyland Industries. I think they have now become the number 1 corporate bad guys in movie history.

The cast and visuals were great. I do agree that the prologue was perhaps giving too much away, but I guess once you have seen it and you begin watching it again on DVD it won't matter.

I hope in the Director's Cut we will hear "Prometheus has landed" which was cut, and also I hope they include Weyland's TED address and also the David 8 advert and perhaps even Shaw's application (which I haven't seen yet).

Ridley Scott is great at creating a world/environment or diegesis if you want to be techniclaly correct in which you want to go visit.

Oh and someone else did mention HP Lovecraft which I do agree that this is a kind of version of At The Mountains of Madness which is set in Antarctica and has at least one monster which makes a kind of appearance in this film (though a loose version of it).

And it IS still an Alien prequel. But that is what I loved about Alien and Aliens... especially the Dark Horse Graphic Novels, there was a whole universe out there which needed to be explored and expanded and although it was dark, lived in and creepy, above all it seemed real.

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RE: Prometheus: Alien 0 is dead! - 3/6/2012 2:32:08 AM

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I enjoyed it. Watched it in the IMAX 3D at Braehead in Glasgow. I am not giving anything away, but I still enjoyed it despite the spoilers I knew already. Someone hit the nail on the head on the review thread saying that Alien was horror, Aliens was action, but Prometheus is a full blown sci-fi epic. Youc an see what they were trying. Ok it can't be allowed to be like 2001 because if it had little plot it wouldn't be too commercial, but it did open up and expand the Alien universe which is a good thing in itself.

Perhaps we will get more in the sequel with a look at the origin of life itself, and more about the Space Jockeys. Also I want to see more about Weyland Industries. I think they have now become the number 1 corporate bad guys in movie history.

The cast and visuals were great. I do agree that the prologue was perhaps giving too much away, but I guess once you have seen it and you begin watching it again on DVD it won't matter.

I hope in the Director's Cut we will hear "Prometheus has landed" which was cut, and also I hope they include Weyland's TED address and also the David 8 advert and perhaps even Shaw's application (which I haven't seen yet).

Ridley Scott is great at creating a world/environment or diegesis if you want to be techniclaly correct in which you want to go visit.

Oh and someone else did mention HP Lovecraft which I do agree that this is a kind of version of At The Mountains of Madness which is set in Antarctica and has at least one monster which makes a kind of appearance in this film (though a loose version of it).

And it IS still an Alien prequel. But that is what I loved about Alien and Aliens... especially the Dark Horse Graphic Novels, there was a whole universe out there which needed to be explored and expanded and although it was dark, lived in and creepy, above all it seemed real.

Wow! H.P Lovecraft! I never saw it that way, but now that you mention it, it seems very interesting! We even get to see a very Lovecraftian creature in it! Thats the things I love about this film, there are so many interpretations that one can find or take from the film. I too enjoyed it, it opened up the whole Alien universe, and by the time the credits were rolling my head was teaming with so many questions! I really hope they do a sequel!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 3/6/2012 8:37:26 AM

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I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

This,Pro is a 4 star at least.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 3/6/2012 11:24:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

This,Pro is a 4 star at least.

Yep, a 4 star here aswell. Its not a masterpiece, but its still a well made, beautiful, exciting, science fiction film, and one with big idea's ; I loved the 'Chariots of the Gods' aspect of it, and cannot wait to see a directors cut of it!

Its 'failures' tower over other film-maker's achievments like a giant colossus.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 3/6/2012 3:31:46 PM

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Ha,well put. I;m interested in reading Chariots after all the times I've read it associated with this.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 3/6/2012 7:18:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

In fairness, Ridley Scott had never made a film as hugely entertaining as The Rock.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 3/6/2012 11:26:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

In fairness, Ridley Scott had never made a film as hugely entertaining as The Rock.

I agree, The Rock is fucking mental!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 4/6/2012 12:56:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

In fairness, Ridley Scott had never made a film as hugely entertaining as The Rock.

I agree, The Rock is fucking mental!

Are we actually comparing Ridley to Bay here?

Seriously?!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 4/6/2012 9:50:55 AM

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Surely you mean Tony Scott?

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 5/6/2012 5:38:56 PM

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Sean Connery is what makes The Rock and indeed the late John Spencer for his immortal line: "Mason! You cocksucker!".

Oh and William Forsyth (Cockeye himself) and his great exchange with Connery about Alexander Solzhenitsyn... "Didn't he play Hockey for the Nicks (or something like that)". "Yes, that's the chap."

Okay so as a director Bay cannot lace Ridley's boots, but The Rock is a superb movie. I have always said on here (even way back on the original forum - and not the one before 2005, I'm talking about 15 years ago) there is a snobbery about movies which I feel is unjustifed. Movies are entertainment. Perhaps they can be art also, but I believe they are entertainment first and foremost, and popcorn movies as people like to call them can be fecking brilliant. The Rock is a classic movie which takes tired elements we have seen in many different films and a B-movie premise, but thanks to a witty script, a superb cast, and good direction from Michael Bay it somehow all turns out a lot better than it should have.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 5/6/2012 6:31:34 PM

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Saw it. Thought it was a mess. If it was directed by somebody other than Scott people would be ripping it to peices. I won't bother to list all of the plot holes and scenes/character choices that made no sense whatsoever as they've all been mentioned already.

That is all.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 5/6/2012 8:01:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

In fairness, Ridley Scott had never made a film as hugely entertaining as The Rock.

I agree, The Rock is fucking mental!

Are we actually comparing Ridley to Bay here?

Seriously?!

Ridley Scott is a god amongst film directors - Bay on the other, is a court jester! The difference between the two is vast like a giant chasm between the two. The only Bay film I did enjoy were The Rock, and a few minutes here and there from Armageddon. Transformers? The only thing I like about it is the visual effects by ILM. As for Ridley, via Alien and Blade Runner, he gave the world two of the greatest science fiction films ever, and in the latter my favourite film of all time! Not to mention the much underrated fantasy epic Legend, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut and so on. And more recently Prometheus which I enjoyed.

Bay is nothing like Ridley Scott!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 5/6/2012 8:06:37 PM

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Saw it. Thought it was a mess. If it was directed by somebody other than Scott people would be ripping it to peices. I won't bother to list all of the plot holes and scenes/character choices that made no sense whatsoever as they've all been mentioned already.

That is all.

People are ripping it to pieces! Regardless of the fact Scott is director!

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 7/6/2012 2:39:21 PM

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Damon Lindelof on a possible Prometheus sequel.

�Ridley was very interested in talking about, �What are the answers to the questions that Prometheus is posing that are not necessarily definitively spelled out in the body of Prometheus?� � Lindelof says.

�I said to him, we should be prepared for people to feel frustrated if we�re going to be withholding, so we have to be very careful about what we�re saving for later," he continues. "Because it�s not a foregone conclusion that there are going to be sequels, and so if there isn�t a sequel, just be comfortable with what we gave them in this movie."

Lindelof says that his experience on the acclaimed but decidedly polarizing Lost attuned him to the opportunities -- and responsibilities -- of creating a mythology for Prometheus that audiences will care about.

�The audience is given a little more information than the characters in the movie have,� he explains. �And it�s our hope that fires the imagination up enough for them to say, �I might want to see Prometheus again� or �I definitely want to see where this movie takes me.� Because this movie has two children: One of these children grows up to be Alien, but the other child is going to grow up, and God knows what happens to them. And that�s what the sequel to Prometheus would be.�

When Scott originally launched the project with screenwriter Jon Spaihts, the director suggested that the title be Paradise, heralding the word�s �spooky connotations.�

After Lindelof took over the reins on the script, the title changed to Prometheus, though rumors linger that Scott might revive Paradise for a sequel.

�That�s only a title that was being tossed around at various stages in the development,� Lindelof says. �He did need to know what the answers to some of these questions are in Prometheus, just to shoot Prometheus. [But] Ridley was very confident and assured in saying, �I�m very comfortable with exactly what Prometheus is providing.� �

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 8/6/2012 2:08:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

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ORIGINAL: Nexus Wookie

I think we should take Ian Nathan's 3 star review with a pinch of salt, afterall, this is the guy who gave TRANSFORMERS 4 fucking stars!

So by his estimation, Transformers is a better film than Prometheus, and Michael Bay a better director than Ridley Scott? Maybe they should have put Bay in charge! What a twat!

In fairness, Ridley Scott had never made a film as hugely entertaining as The Rock.

I agree, The Rock is fucking mental!

Are we actually comparing Ridley to Bay here?

Seriously?!

Ridley Scott is a god amongst film directors - Bay on the other, is a court jester! The difference between the two is vast like a giant chasm between the two. The only Bay film I did enjoy were The Rock, and a few minutes here and there from Armageddon. Transformers? The only thing I like about it is the visual effects by ILM. As for Ridley, via Alien and Blade Runner, he gave the world two of the greatest science fiction films ever, and in the latter my favourite film of all time! Not to mention the much underrated fantasy epic Legend, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut and so on. And more recently Prometheus which I enjoyed.

Bay is nothing like Ridley Scott!

Is he really?

As I have said on the Film review thread, Ridley's two masterpieces, Alien & Blade Runner owe far more to other people: Alien (Dan O'Bannon & H. R. Giger), Blade Runner (Hampton Fincher & Syd Mead).

He has made some good movies since, but even Gladiator is a load of old piffle.

Alien & Blade Runner along with Black Hawk Down are the only Ridley movies I would watch over and over. The rest of his back catalogue is journeyman and workmanlike.

He is a great visualist, but movies are about storytelling and despite what he claims, I do not believe he is interested more in story than visuals.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 11/6/2012 10:46:36 AM

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Am I the only person to notice that this movie ends incorrectly to tie in with Alien. In Alien the crew of the Nostromo find 'The Engineer Pilot' or 'Space Jokey' in his pilots chair, helmet on, with a chest wound indicating that he was killed by a Chest Burster exploding from his chest. However in Prometheus he is killed by a 3rd Generation Evolving 'Face Hugger' or maybe more apt nomenclature of 'Body Hugger' aboard the rescue pod?

Sooooo....anyone want to explain this one?

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 11/6/2012 10:59:26 AM

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Different planet, different Space Jockey.

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RE: PROMETHEUS: - 13/6/2012 10:35:19 AM

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Different planet, different Space Jockey.

SPOILERS

I honestly don�t see how people aren�t getting that

. They state the planet early on and it�s not LV-426. Aside from that, it visually completely different.

Scott�s comments about the last eight or so minutes connecting to (not directly) Alien is merely showing the Jockey impregnated by the huge squid/cthulhu/facehugger and then birthing an alien... which is curiously well developed, given the size they are born at in every other film.

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