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RE: RE: - 9/4/2011 9:30:01 AM   
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Watched this on DVD last night. Truly excellent piece of work. It's amazing to read about the limited budget this film had, I would never have considered this was a 'low budget' flick.

The film has a great atmosphere throughout and the lead roles are exceptional the relationship feels very real and organic, the creatures are suitable intimidating and alien (and quite touching in one scene!). The film runs along at an excellent pace and it's a complete victory for a debut director.

**SPOILERS**




I loved the ending, I think it's pretty clear they are probably both going to get killed in the air raid and as the reviewer suggests the real Monsters are clearly the humans and the Army, they brought them here after all....
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Deep - 9/4/2011 9:47:07 PM   
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I would just like to say that this is a monumental achievement for a first time director. The emotion and tension in this film are to be envied and the acting is raw and powerful.
Well done!

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A film for critics - 11/4/2011 8:14:34 AM   
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Obvisouly critics are going to like this film as nothing happens and it is not a Monster movie. I would say that the critics who rate this film have overdoesed on the likes of Battle Los Angeles and Skyline and were looking for something different. Different does not mean good. Bad is bad no matter how you dress it up.

"Do Dolphins have belly buttons?" Please. What sort of dialogue is that? Straight out of a kiddies fillm, that's what.

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Disappointed - 11/4/2011 8:47:57 AM   
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Expected a lot after reading the Empire review. Unfortunately and ultimately I was disappointed. Any film where a guy is travelling through a very dangerous "Infected Area" that he knows has deadly aliens in it, then asked in a shocked manner why his guides have 'guns' is a bit silly.

It did have its moments, and as a low budget film it needs to be commended, but overall I just found it left me a little cold.

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RE: A film for critics - 13/4/2011 9:28:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: simply

Obvisouly critics are going to like this film as nothing happens and it is not a Monster movie. I would say that the critics who rate this film have overdoesed on the likes of Battle Los Angeles and Skyline and were looking for something different. Different does not mean good. Bad is bad no matter how you dress it up.

"Do Dolphins have belly buttons?" Please. What sort of dialogue is that? Straight out of a kiddies fillm, that's what.


Yea i think he was meant to be drunk.....

Spoiler

Anyway I loved the film, not entirely sure why, just felt very satisfied after it - except when I realise what the real ending was! gutted. great film imo.



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Overrated (literally) (SPOILERS) - 13/4/2011 10:13:53 AM   
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I was really looking forward to this but nothing happens! 90 minutes of two people walking around trying to "get home".... They can afford $5,000 / $10,000 tickets for ferries? Then they have to go through the jungle... Why can't they afford a private jet/boat?? They could have gone south to another country and got a plane/boat from there! There is no premise that says they HAVE to go from where they are (unless I really missed something?) And as another person has written... They walk into a jungle filled with "monsters" and the main guy asks why his guides have guns?!? WTF??
I dont care about the low budget... there is no way this film deserves 5 stars even if it was made using milk tokens!!

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Overrated (literally) (SPOILERS) - 13/4/2011 10:18:50 AM   
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I was really looking forward to this but nothing happens! 90 minutes of two people walking around trying to "get home".... They can afford $5,000 / $10,000 tickets for ferries? Then they have to go through the jungle... Why can't they afford a private jet/boat?? They could have gone south to another country and got a plane/boat from there! There is no premise that says they HAVE to go from where they are (unless I really missed something?) And as another person has written... They walk into a jungle filled with "monsters" and the main guy asks why his guides have guns?!? WTF??
I dont care about the low budget... there is no way this film deserves 5 stars even if it was made using milk tokens!!

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RE: Overrated (literally) (SPOILERS) - 13/4/2011 8:35:20 PM   
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I can't believe all the hate this film is getting, I think some people expected Cloverfield part 2 or they missed the point of the film.

A great movie. Maybe not 5 stars but still great. The scene at the garage is amazing.

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RE: Disappointed - 13/4/2011 9:08:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: discodave101

Expected a lot after reading the Empire review. Unfortunately and ultimately I was disappointed. Any film where a guy is travelling through a very dangerous "Infected Area" that he knows has deadly aliens in it, then asked in a shocked manner why his guides have 'guns' is a bit silly.

It did have its moments, and as a low budget film it needs to be commended, but overall I just found it left me a little cold.


totally agree

It was so boring I nearly asleep.....could not see what all the hype was about?

(was it because the director made it for practically no money?)

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RE: Overrated (literally) (SPOILERS) - 14/4/2011 7:18:40 AM   
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Dont care for these overhyped video-style movies. Strongly disliked District 9 and if this is inspired by that then it better have a decent monster(s) at least.




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Overrated but..... - 14/4/2011 9:21:10 AM   
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......it was alright.

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Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 14/4/2011 1:50:20 PM   
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I'm astounded at the division this film has met with. The reviews below, in particular seem to miss the point. Part of me thinks this is probably due to the trailer hyping the film up to be something more akin to District 9, but if you go in with those expectations you'll inevitably be disappointed. What it is, however, is an incredibly moving love story, woven beneath the chaos and spectacle of an alien outbreak/invasion story. It echoes all the right Spielbergian influences. No, this film isn't really about Monsters at all - but that's kind of the point.

Utterly superb.

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Monsters - Big Disappointment - 20/4/2011 11:59:35 AM   
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I was really looking forward to this film, friends had heralded it as "what Cloverfield wanted to be". It wasn't.

I don't know whether I missed something, but it just felt a bit empty to me. The monsters looked like octopus with crab feet, and reminded me way too much of "War of the Worlds", I know the copying is the best form of flattery but it missed the mark for me. I did enjoy the fact that the monsters were illusive and not in shot for the majority of the film (the psyco touch) however this was kind of ruined as the signs in the movie and on the posters/box show exactly what the monsters look like before you have even seen it/them. So your imagination doesn't and cannot go into overdrive about what is killing people.
As for the two human characters, although both actors do a Stella job, I just didn't believe they were falling in love, I didn't really empathize with either of them - it all just seemed a little rushed and I was surprised when the credits began to roll, I was definitely left wanting more.

It isn't that I dislike this movie, I just wish it had given more.

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Spare me rave reviews for disappointing films - 24/4/2011 4:15:45 PM   
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This film stylistically is the Blair Witch project remade - except with extra loud atmospheric music drowning out the actors voices. Although true to BW re-made style - lots of dark lighting-wise scenes. And probably the dullest film I've seen - the Daily Mirror (DVD marketing) calls it "Thrilling, Action-Packed and Totally Original - except that there are no thrills, no action and its not original. Empire is slipping if it doesn't understand that a film needs to keep its audience engaged. So if it pretends to be "arty and different" you'll score it as a classic? Emperor's new clothes muppetry. Shame on Empire.

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Awsome - 30/4/2011 9:18:52 AM   
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Can I just say that this is an absolote fantastic achievement for a mans first film. I realy enjoyed this film, everything about it was good, but the special effects were awsome, and did you know Gareth Edwards not only had written and directed the film but he also did the special effects himself to.

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RE: Awsome - 2/5/2011 6:06:29 PM   
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While in many ways an interesting effort I was left feeling disappointed at the end of this movie - For 90% of the running time nothing actually happens, and when it does it's not exactly massively exciting either compared to various other creature-features I've seen. There's a couple of tense moments but beyond that save for a rather touching meet up/ shag between two of the aliens at the end the word 'overrated' popped in to my head at the end of proceedings.

It also couldn't escape it's low budget roots, some of the acting wasn't really that great - the guy in the ferry port they were negotiating with or the guys offering them an armed escort - it just seemed they'd roped in some locals. Even the two leads weren't particualry watchable I thought.

All in all - don't believe the hype but watch it anyway for an alternative alien film that doesn't rely on masses of special effects and explosions to keep your interest. It's unlikely you're going to want to watch this again though because so much of it is filled with - well nothing in particular

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Emperors Clothes or what?. - 8/5/2011 12:21:49 AM   
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...........After all the hype..i must have watched a different film.'action-packed',it said on the dvd case..WHAT!!.It was one of the WORST films, i have ever had the misfortune to sit through,(although the jungle looked nice).I thought,something has got to happen soon....and then it ended.I felt cheated.Utter S***e.

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OVERRATED - 22/5/2011 10:06:59 PM   
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NICE IDEA AND WELL-EXECUTED GENERALLY, BUT BORING IN MANY PARTS. WHERE WAS THE ACTION?

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Brilliant - 11/6/2011 6:47:16 PM   
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I like films that really draw you into the characters. Both the leads in this movie are very well thought out, and the script is brilliant. You never get the feeling that this is corny, cheesy hokum hollywood. Sam spends the whole movie in the same outfit, and no makeup.
I don't think this is an alien invasion movie. A'la FF The Spirits Within, the Aliens are here by mistake. They are animals just acting as animals do.
If you want countless action scenes, catch lines and explosions, go watch Predators. If you are after something a little more emotional, this is the puppy.

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RE: Brilliant - 14/6/2011 11:59:50 AM   
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Not as amzing as was led to believe. it was okay, but dont go into this expecting ANY action.

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RE: Brilliant - 16/6/2011 1:54:37 PM   
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Monsters

I must have seen a different cut to everyone who's praising it to the hilt, because I thought it was the most boring, nothing happens, no story, no chemistry, no intelligence movie since, well, The Road.

At around the one hour point I started thinking "this had better be building up to something truly breathtaking or this is the biggest load of over-hyped bollocks since, well, The Road." And it duly didn't. It built up to what must be one of the biggest wet fart anti-climaxes in cinema history.

Btw - spoiler - the "monsters" are us, because there aren't any other monsters in the movie apart from a brief glimpse of two gigantic, ridiculous looking stilt aliens in the last 5 minutes keening to each other like lovesick sperm whales. On stilts. With tentacles. That's it. Nothing else happens. Except for the constant hammering home of the 'message' (that the Monsters are us, if you didn't get that yet).

It's really a 'love story' but the actors have zero chemistry (odd considering they're a real-life couple) and their falling in love completely unconvincing as a result. They hate each other on sight, they hate each other as a direct result of their interactions and then they fall in love with 5 minutes remaining, because, well, they must.

And the plot made no sense. At every possible turn, the characters do the opposite to what 'real' human beings would do in their situation - apparently there are no planes outside the USA, says the BOAT OPERATOR, so rather than checking with, say, an airline, the morons pay the con-man whatever he asks without question, even though woman is the daughter of an incredibly rich media-magnate who could no doubt fly them out privately at a moment's notice (notwithstanding unconvincing plot contrivances to the contrary); dude sleeps with prostitute and gets all their money stolen and of course the woman DOESN'T ditch him on the spot; they hear noises in jungle, and, with signs EVERYWHERE saying "Danger: Monsters!", the moron asks "what's that noise?" and moves TOWARDS it (but don't worry - any 'tension' is completely artificial, fake and unfulfilled, just like the 'love story'); and so on and so on.

To reiterate, the lack of any 'monsters' or 'action' need not have been critical if the love story worked, or the film even had some value as a commentary on the human condition, or just displayed a modicum of intelligence in its telling. It doesn't have any of those things. It is turgid, contrived, heavy handed in its message, entirely unconvincing, as both travelogue and love story, and altogether thoroughly boring.

I don't care if it only cost Gareth Edwards (the director, not the Welsh rugby legend) ten bob to make. Have a fucking script next time or don't bother.

3/10 (for making a home video look nice at least)

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 2:20:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jon5000

I'm astounded at the division this film has met with. The reviews below, in particular seem to miss the point.


A little ignorant there. Some people didn't like the film simply because the film didn't function on every level for them. I fall into that group. Something went awry for me. I really liked the central performances and the fact they're now a real-life married couple, shows why they had such good chemistry. It was natural and touching in parts. Having said so, I just felt their journey was one meandering trek after another without anything really worthy of note. I thought where things began to pick up and become more interesting, but unfortunately were sadly under-utilised was when they crossed over the U.S border. The segment was too short and of course the film then ends abruptly.

Another thing, which did slightly annoy me is the political sub-text of the film. We know this film is meant to be a comment on modern America; its perception of a world it deems hostile and in return, the world's perception of it. It creates both physical and non-physical barriers. Setting up large walls to fence itself in. It erects trade barriers. How each war it prosecutes has collateral damage, whether it be the 'war on drugs' or 'war on terror'. Although how can any war be fought without zero collateral damage? Furthermore, how America seems very averse to anything 'alien' that could contaminate its core values, culture and way of life. Hence attacking the creatures. However, what the hell are they supposed to do? Just sit back and allow these creatures to roam around freely? So that they can destroy homes and communities? Both subtly and overtly; we're led to believe that resisting the presence of these creatures is wrong. Because they happen to show affection to one another (which was a nice touch I agree). Still, it's an "infestation of god knows what!" to quote another film. Usually, there's only one way to deal with it.

On a positive note; the film's main soundtrack title is fantastic.

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I don't care if it only cost Gareth Edwards (the director, not the Welsh rugby legend) ten bob to make. Have a fucking script next time or don't bother.


You think he dropped the ball with this one?


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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 2:31:33 PM   
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It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 2:47:31 PM   
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It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.


Not any different to what we did in Berlin or Dresden. Besides, how can they engage the creatures if some of them like to hang around towns and cities? What would you do differently? Chemical/biological warfare? Which may not have a chance of succeeding due to their exo-biology. Furthermore, it could kill/infect us and livestock, perhaps even mutate into something else.

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 2:55:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.


Not any different to what we did in Berlin or Dresden. Besides, how can they engage the creatures if some of them like to hang around towns and cities? What would you do differently? Chemical/biological warefare? Which may not have a chance of succeeding due to their exo-biology. Furthermore, it could kill/infect us and livestock, perhaps even mutate into something else.



I dunno - but then I am of the view that the movie doesn't really take much of a viewpoint either. It is just showing you the hardships.

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 3:03:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.


Not any different to what we did in Berlin or Dresden. Besides, how can they engage the creatures if some of them like to hang around towns and cities? What would you do differently? Chemical/biological warefare? Which may not have a chance of succeeding due to their exo-biology. Furthermore, it could kill/infect us and livestock, perhaps even mutate into something else.



I dunno - but then I am of the view that the movie doesn't really take much of a viewpoint either. It is just showing you the hardships.


See that's the problem. For me, the film is making a commentary on America. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that the film tried to coax me to a certain view, by showing what America was "doing wrong" if you will. It's an almost impossible situation and frankly the military has no choice. Its remit is to defend its borders. I suppose one can say the film asks "but at what cost?". Although, again I do feel the film had a certain political slant to it and ergo certain implications.

What did you make of the central chemistry between the two? Did you feel the narrative was compelling or meandering in any way?

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 3:11:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

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It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.


Not any different to what we did in Berlin or Dresden. Besides, how can they engage the creatures if some of them like to hang around towns and cities? What would you do differently? Chemical/biological warefare? Which may not have a chance of succeeding due to their exo-biology. Furthermore, it could kill/infect us and livestock, perhaps even mutate into something else.



I dunno - but then I am of the view that the movie doesn't really take much of a viewpoint either. It is just showing you the hardships.


See that's the problem. For me, the film is making a commentary on America. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that the film tried to coax me to a certain view, by showing what America was "doing wrong" if you will. It's an almost impossible situation and frankly the military has no choice. Its remit is to defend its borders. I suppose one can say the film asks "but at what cost?". Although, again I do feel the film had a certain political slant to it and ergo certain implications.

What did you make of the central chemistry between the two? Did you feel the narrative was compelling or meandering in any way?


Much like District 9, I think the commentary (what commentary there is) in Monsters is more universial than just America. The huge fences aren't just in America and history has shown that the US isn't the only nation to act in this way to outsiders.

As for the film itself - I loved it. Have seen it in the cinema twice and just got lost in the picture. All the things that people are critical of, I enjoyed. It felt like a real world, and is unlike most science fiction cinema. I love how casual the people are to the creatures - it feels like that is how it would go down in reality. Mankind always finds a way to work around hardships and challanges.

As for the main characters - I bought their story. Falling in love isn't always about grand gestures, saving the girl from the monsters or even something which develops over weeks. Sometimes it happens quickly and you are caught up in the tide of emotions. Again, it didn't feel false or misplaced.

Monsters is a marmite film. Too many monsters for the indie crowd, too few monsters for the sci-fi crowd. But I love it without condition. Even bought the US Blu Ray so I could get a copy.

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 3:19:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44

It isn't so much that America contains the creatures - it is that they THEN bomb the country to hell as well.


Not any different to what we did in Berlin or Dresden. Besides, how can they engage the creatures if some of them like to hang around towns and cities? What would you do differently? Chemical/biological warefare? Which may not have a chance of succeeding due to their exo-biology. Furthermore, it could kill/infect us and livestock, perhaps even mutate into something else.



I dunno - but then I am of the view that the movie doesn't really take much of a viewpoint either. It is just showing you the hardships.


See that's the problem. For me, the film is making a commentary on America. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that the film tried to coax me to a certain view, by showing what America was "doing wrong" if you will. It's an almost impossible situation and frankly the military has no choice. Its remit is to defend its borders. I suppose one can say the film asks "but at what cost?". Although, again I do feel the film had a certain political slant to it and ergo certain implications.

What did you make of the central chemistry between the two? Did you feel the narrative was compelling or meandering in any way?


Much like District 9, I think the commentary (what commentary there is) in Monsters is more universial than just America. The huge fences aren't just in America and history has shown that the US isn't the only nation to act in this way to outsiders.

As for the film itself - I loved it. Have seen it in the cinema twice and just got lost in the picture. All the things that people are critical of, I enjoyed. It felt like a real world, and is unlike most science fiction cinema. I love how casual the people are to the creatures - it feels like that is how it would go down in reality. Mankind always finds a way to work around hardships and challanges.

As for the main characters - I bought their story. Falling in love isn't always about grand gestures, saving the girl from the monsters or even something which develops over weeks. Sometimes it happens quickly and you are caught up in the tide of emotions. Again, it didn't feel false or misplaced.

Monsters is a marmite film. Too many monsters for the indie crowd, too few monsters for the sci-fi crowd. But I love it without condition. Even bought the US Blu Ray so I could get a copy.


At least you enjoyed it. 

I would've liked to have seen more of the film take place in the devastated parts of the U.S. I suppose one could say this was reminiscent of places such as New Orleans, where many felt the government had abandoned them.

I did like the intimate scenes between the two. I think one highlight is when they're around the campfire. Where he's applying/re-applying dressing to her arm. The way he's gentle with her, almost as if he's apologising for hurting her feelings before. You can see by her expression that she's receptive to his touches. Without wanting to be all girly, it's a wonderful moment.

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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 5:04:07 PM   
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I do like the folks who say the movie was OVERHYPED - it is a small movie with a small audience. It hasn't even got that many pages on this forum.


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RE: Most surprisingly amazing film I've seen in years - 16/6/2011 6:19:14 PM   
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Perhaps they meant in the small but exciteable pool of Empire's readership! 

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