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Batman 3 Has A Title - 27/10/2010 4:11:20 PM   
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RE: Great new title for the final Batman film - 27/10/2010 4:17:05 PM   
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 I really like it - fits in perfectly with the 'dawn' theme alluded to in the previous movie.

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RE: Good - 27/10/2010 4:24:33 PM   
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Happy its not going to be The Riddler he's too similar to the Joker. Would like to see Tom Hardy play The Mad Hatter.

Also I don't mind the title.


That ain't going to happen, put my money on either Black Mask (would make good the trilogy's crime sindicate angle) or Thomas Elliot (Hush story)
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RE: Already Risen - 27/10/2010 4:37:09 PM   
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The Dark Knight has already arisen, so the title is rather pointless. The writer of this article really made a mountain out of a molehill, Nolan revealed nothing apart from the not-very-good title.


The lack of 3D for a major blockbuster is actually a pretty big deal in this day and age.
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RE: THANK YOU - 27/10/2010 5:30:23 PM   
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I'm not keen on the title. Obviously it won't impact the quality of the film but what excited me when The Dark Knight was announced as a title was that it was a direct comics reference and sounded cool. The addition of the word Rises just does nothing for me and seems like a way just to remind everyone it's a sequel to The Dark Knight, where Batman Begins and The Dark Knight seemed to resonate with the content in a cool sounding way. I would've preferred something simple just like 'The Batman' (or something slightly better). Still better than them being called Batman, Batman 2 and Batman 3 (I never really got over that they changed the title of the second Spider-man from The Amazing Spider-man to just Spider-man 2).

In terms of villain, since the end of TDK, I've always thought Black Mask would be the best character. He's kind of a half way house between the mobsters of Begins with the theatricality/escalation idea of how the Batman has changed criminals and the way he filled a mob leadership vacuum in the comics fits where we're at in the films and aside from his choice of visage, he's not too outlandish.
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RE: THANK YOU - 27/10/2010 5:32:32 PM  1 votes
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Oh yeah and hopefully the decision by such a talented and commercially successful filmmaker like Christopher Nolan rejecting 3D will encourage some other directors to stick to their guns and rebel against the current trend to convert everything to 3D just so they can push up the ticket prices. Avatar, aside from being crap, has a lot to answer for.

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RE: Good. - 27/10/2010 6:45:51 PM   
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'The Dark Knight Rises'??? Sounds like some blaxploitation porno. Perhaps Tom Hardy is going to be a tranny Catwoman and Samual L. Jackson is planning to grow a handlebar moustache and play the part of Robin as a dominant/submissive S&M enthusiast. Although my guess is Nolan will get Ellen Page in as Robin and cherry pick the good bits from Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns'. In fact I reckon it will be a loose adaptation of 'Dark Knight Returns'.
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RE: Im ok with the title - 27/10/2010 6:46:30 PM   
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I hate to be all pedantic geek on you but Earth 616 is where the main line of continuity takes place in the Marvel universe. Aside from the odd crossover title, Batman is never on Earth 616.
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RE: Good. - 27/10/2010 6:58:49 PM   
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Clearlinkssteve, around the time of Batman Begins release, Nolan and Bale stated pretty definitively in a lot of interviews that they don't see Robin being incorporated into the world they have established. Also The Dark Knight returns is so far from what's occurred in the first two films I can't see him bringing in the mutants, Robin or recasting the Joker. Batman of the Dark Knight returns is a bitter ultra violent mean old bastard and a killer. His psyche is pretty ugly and distorted from what we know. Also @ robbiewilk, what are we supposed to be admitting now? I don't think anyone is trying to insinuate we could make a better Batman film. I personally don't agree that Inception was truly fantastic (although I did enjoy it) but as you strike me as someone who doesn't like to be disagreed with (of course I may be wrong) I feel I should state, that's just my opinion. Regarding Catwoman, I kind of don't see how she'd fit into the Nolanverse. I'd be interested to see their take on the character and wouldn't complain if she is involved but I struggle to see how they'd incorporate her. They'd need a main villain anyway as Catwoman has always been a grey area (she's not really hero or villain) and is pretty much a thief who, despite her lack of superpowers, performs some pretty superhuman feats of agility as one of her main attributes.

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RE: Good. - 27/10/2010 7:19:28 PM   
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Not a huge fan of the title, i think it will be Catwoman unfortunately with Scarecrow again and Tom Hardy as something other than a villain, a cop, journalist or something that is vital to the story though.

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RE: The Shite Knight - 27/10/2010 7:47:53 PM   
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The Nolan numbnuts cafe latte brigade out in force again. The most over-rated director in the history of movies perfect for the dumbest mass movie audience in the history of movies.


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RE: Batman 3 Has A Title - 27/10/2010 7:55:39 PM   
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Sounds good to me considering at the end of Dark Knight he's on the run and going under cover which means he has to 'rise again' in some way.

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RE: Batman 3 Has A Title - 27/10/2010 8:21:41 PM   
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 I just realised... this'll be the first ever BATMAN film I won't be going to see at the cinema. I've seen 'em all since Burton's '89 film. But it's over for me now. Same goes for all 8756 superhero / comic-movies due out within the next few years.

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RE: Not sure on the title, but wanna be. - 27/10/2010 9:12:45 PM   
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Although I don't think Two Face will return (Nolan and Eckhart have both publicly stated he's dead) at the end of TDK he didn't look any more dead than Gordon half way through the film. There were no visible mortal wounds, we saw no body in the coffin and noone checking the body. As I say, don't think they'll bring him back, but if they did it doesn't have to be a back from the dead story.
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RE: Not sure on the title, but wanna be. - 27/10/2010 9:17:49 PM   
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I would happy to see Two-Face return simply because it would be very special to see a whole film with him at the height of his criminal powers (In TDK he was just a man with a gun). The Dark Knight vs. The White Knight with all of Gotham to play for would feel appropriate given their history. Probably won't be, though.

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RE: - 27/10/2010 10:09:59 PM   
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How about batman returns


Did Batman leave?
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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 7:10:19 AM   
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I'm personally voting for Dr Hugo Strange as the main villain, with a smaller Zsasz-like appearance from Killer Croc (see 'Joker' or Waylon Jones' original appearance) and a proper Catwoman. Maybe Talia.

Not sure about the title given they now seem to have just replaced the traditional titular 'Batman' with 'The Dark Knight' (is the next one going to be 'The Dark Knight Forever'?), and it does seem a shameless way of saying 'The Dark Knight 2' or 'sequel to the Batman film that made us over a billion dollars'. Nevertheless it's acceptable, even if it'll make the posters look badly photoshopped.

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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 8:09:34 AM   
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Have to say Im relieved that its not the Riddler (and bemused by all those people who were so adamant it would be). He's only ever been a third rate knock off of the Joker anyway.

I like the idea of Tom Hardy as Hush, the only problem being the characters history with Bruce Wayne. No mention of him in the previous two films, so will be strange to suddenly introduce someone Bruce has known for years

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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 9:18:57 AM   
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God Empire, the spam is becoming unbearable

Have to say Im relieved that its not the Riddler (and bemused by all those people who were so adamant it would be). He's only ever been a third rate knock off of the Joker anyway.

I like the idea of Tom Hardy as Hush, the only problem being the characters history with Bruce Wayne. No mention of him in the previous two films, so will be strange to suddenly introduce someone Bruce has known for years



No he hasn't, a constant misconception.

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RE: Batman 3 Has A Title - 28/10/2010 9:27:59 AM   
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If they ever do The Riddler, I'm one of the bunch that votes Tennant.

Do you think Poison Ivy could be done in a way which isn't ridiculous?

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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 9:47:12 AM   
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Have to say Im relieved that its not the Riddler (and bemused by all those people who were so adamant it would be). He's only ever been a third rate knock off of the Joker anyway.



No he hasn't, a constant misconception.


But thats the problem isnt it? Thats exactly what most people see him as (including, it seems, Christopher Nolan). Having the character is just inviting unfair comparisons with Ledgers Joker.
Or my feelings anyway

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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 10:09:30 AM   
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Have to say Im relieved that its not the Riddler (and bemused by all those people who were so adamant it would be). He's only ever been a third rate knock off of the Joker anyway.



No he hasn't, a constant misconception.


But thats the problem isnt it? Thats exactly what most people see him as (including, it seems, Christopher Nolan). Having the character is just inviting unfair comparisons with Ledgers Joker.
Or my feelings anyway



Nolan has had to go back and re-structure the whole of his 'third act' of his triliogy based upon Heath's death and his decision to put all of TDK's themes into the second film instead of the original three part arc has left a hole that needs filling.
 
The Riddler is a different breed to the Joker, he is a subsidury, a expansive character who was established to work off the other more prominant 'leads', always has been, The Riddler is a 'device', he is calm and has an order about him, The Joker demands centre attention and is complete chaos with the need to be at the core of the story. The Riddler could not sustain a two hour plus story line, that is why he is not in the new film, not through being a 'Joker Mark II' (because he is not), he is equally as important, but requires the correct methodology applied, Nolan if he chose to, could make an excellent Riddler work, but given the dynamic of the third, with Batman on the run, and crime set to impose itself on Gotham in his absence and Batman needing to regain public trust and restore order, The Riddler doesn't wield that much authority to 'manage' a crime syndicate, but Blask Mask does.

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RE: Batman 3 Has A Title - 28/10/2010 12:48:19 PM   
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I just realised... this'll be the first ever BATMAN film I won't be going to see at the cinema. I've seen 'em all since Burton's '89 film. But it's over for me now. Same goes for all 8756 superhero / comic-movies due out within the next few years.



Out of curiosity, why?

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RE: - 28/10/2010 1:30:02 PM   
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Love the fact he is sticking to IMAX and not doing it 3D. Really don't like the title. I loved the first two and the fact the titles where completely different was refreshing - you didn't have to have the title shouting at you that it is a sequal. Everybody knows the character...

I just think it is a bit of a, kinda, well cop out.

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RE: - 28/10/2010 1:34:56 PM   
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Didn't Nolan say that Barbara Gordon would have a bigger part in this one? My son watches a Batman cartoon and I'm positive Barbara Gordon is in fact Batgirl. Maybe in this film she'll become Catwoman?!


The door is over there mate, close it on your way out......
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RE: My vote - 28/10/2010 5:18:13 PM   
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I like the idea of Tom Hardy as Hush, the only problem being the characters history with Bruce Wayne. No mention of him in the previous two films, so will be strange to suddenly introduce someone Bruce has known for years



There was no need to mention him in the previous two films, just like there was no need to mention him in the comics until he actually appeared. In the comics, Hush moved away from Gotham as a young man and we only see about 5 minutes of Bruce Wayne as a youngster in Batman Begins so there was no place for Hush on screen.


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RE: Thank Go there won't be a Riddler - 28/10/2010 5:30:02 PM   
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I was convinced it was going to be called 'The Caped Crusader'!!!!! Oh well, I cannot wait for this to hit our screens - still hundreds more rumours to come out before then......
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RE: RE: - 28/10/2010 5:44:10 PM   
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Love the fact he is sticking to IMAX and not doing it 3D.


What he said.

Floreat celloidia, incredible picture quality over gimmicks etc.

And as for the title, well, it had to have Batman or Dark Knight in there somewhere, so it was by definition going to sound slightly formulaic.

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RE: Good - 28/10/2010 6:54:54 PM   
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Happy its not going to be The Riddler he's too similar to the Joker. Would like to see Tom Hardy play The Mad Hatter.

Also I don't mind the title.


That ain't going to happen, put my money on either Black Mask (would make good the trilogy's crime sindicate angle) or Thomas Elliot (Hush story)


IMDb has got it down that Hardy is rumoured to play Harvey Bullock, which is a little odd seeing as he is not a villain. Plus he's a little to young for the role of Bullock too.


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Crane - 28/10/2010 9:07:06 PM   
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 Do you think Cillian Murphy will be reappearing? Nolan does say many characters from the other films will be used

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