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RE: Titanic - 11/9/2012 9:55:43 PM   
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Allow me to chip in with my two cents on some points raised in this thread. Because I know y'all are just itching to know what I think about stuff.

The Irish and British characters in Titanic do fit within a American's stereotypical idea of how these people talk, but there's nothing in there that suggests a truly problematic attitude to the British and the Irish. It certainly isn't as bad as something like, say, Leap Year. Yeah, the "Ah, Begorrah!" and "Cor, blimey, guv'nor" stuff is cringe-worthy, but not offensively so.

The thing with Murdock: Up until now I was actually completely ignorant of the fact that Cameron completely fudged that character. I believe Cameron has apologized for this, but for someone who did an insane amount of research in his prep before filming, Cameron should have known better. But for me, this doesn't derail in the film and I can't get up in arms about this. Maybe this makes me a monster with a broken moral compass, but... Hell, I'm a monster with a broken moral compass. Who am I kidding? (Although I do wonder how a confirmed fan of Rambo - which deals with the very real situation of the Burma regime - can call into question the ethics of Titanic)

The Jack & Rose story doesn't trivialize what is demonstrably one of the most tragic events of the 20th Century. The purpose of the love story, in my view, is to give the flick a more streamlined narrative and a focal point for the audience to latch on to. Maybe Cameron could have ditched the love story and instead tell a multi-stranded story of most of the passengers on the boat, but that would make the film too sprawling and hard to contain within the already ample 195 minute running time.

At the end of the day, Titanic is a flawed film, but I don't think that Cameron ever loses sight of the magnitude of what happened on that boat. There's a lot of things wrong with that film, but I don't think it's cynical, empty or offensive on any level.



^THIS.

That was my thinking too, that he could've gone for a multi-stranded film, but there's so many stories that could be told, that it would do it injustice just to fit it all into a 3 hour film. It's a great idea for a TV mini-series perhaps. Something which ITV did recently although I missed that unfortunately.

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RE: Titanic - 11/9/2012 9:59:59 PM   
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^THIS.

That was my thinking too, that he could've gone for a multi-stranded film, but there's so many stories that could be told, that it would do it injustice just to fit it all into a 3 hour film. It's a great idea for a TV mini-series perhaps. Something which ITV did recently although I missed that unfortunately.

It was awful.

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RE: Titanic - 11/9/2012 10:41:02 PM   
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Written by some douche bag who thinks the British film industry should just make blockbusters no less.

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RE: Titanic - 11/9/2012 10:57:26 PM   
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Written by some douche bag who thinks the British film industry should just make blockbusters no less.


Does that mean the script was 100% approved?

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RE: Titanic - 12/9/2012 4:22:43 PM   
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Theres a line of dialogue at the climax of Titanic whuich is just SO unintentionally funny which is just so wrong cos its when the ship is about to go under.Jack and Rose are at the stern of the ship as people are dying all round them,people are drowning,falling down the ship crazy,Rose looks around, recognises where they are,turns to Jack and says...

'' Jack! This is where we first met! ''

Im surprised Jack didnt push the the dumb bitch off the ship right then.

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RE: Titanic - 12/9/2012 4:44:09 PM   
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Thanks for that. My day wouldn't feel complete without your wonderfully misogynistic insights.

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