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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 13/2/2011 8:11:45 PM   
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I looked up Wolf Hall by her on your recommendation elab and it definitely seems like my kind of book

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 13/2/2011 8:53:43 PM   
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I LOVE the books by C J Sansom!  Picked up the first one last year (Dissolution) and then devoured the following 3 very quickly (Dark Fire, Sovereign, Revelation).  Was pretty much camped on the door of the library for the new one which came out in November (Heartstone). 

All set around Henry VIII's time and about the reformation and I just love the way it's written.  You can really get the feel of the place with how he describes the time and places.    Wish there were more like this.  I like the religious side of it particulary so if there are any more about the reformation or around that time then I'd be interested


Totally agree. A friend recommended these to me because he knows I like a good mystery/thriller and I'm a history nut and I love them. Shardlake is a great character and Sansom writes about the period so well that you feel you're there!

I'm glad to see a recommendation for Wolf Hall too. Picked it up a while ago, but haven't got around to starting it yet.


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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 15/2/2011 9:12:23 AM   
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I looked up Wolf Hall on the library catalogue yesterday and every single copy across the borough is out on loan!  Must be popular   Might have to buy it as I want to read it now.....

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 18/2/2011 3:09:32 PM   
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To be honest Hobs I really wouldn't bother. I really wanted to read it, thought it sounded absolutely brilliant. I think I managed about six chapters before I gave up, absolute waste of time. Extremely difficult to read and very hard to get a grasp on what's actually going on.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 18/2/2011 3:11:55 PM   
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I'll play Devil's Advocate and say it's one of the best pieces of fiction - historical or otherwise - that I've read in years.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 19/2/2011 6:49:19 PM   
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I know plenty of people must have liked it, I know it ended up on a few of those 'best books I've ever read' list things but I just couldn't get past her use of language. The way it switched between first and third person without warning and just generally over complicated writing.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 26/5/2011 8:27:01 PM   
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I like to read a lot of historical fiction but also a lot of military and historical factual books too. I was wondering if we could change this into a discussion thread about history/military/war books in general? Or should I open a new thread? Please advise weird green people.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 26/5/2011 8:53:51 PM   
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We don't generally change topics mid-thread - others may still wish to discuss this one. So I'd recommend trying a search first - to make sure there isn't an existing thread - and, if not, go for it.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 26/5/2011 9:43:16 PM   
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I like to read a lot of historical fiction but also a lot of military and historical factual books too. I was wondering if we could change this into a discussion thread about history/military/war books in general? Or should I open a new thread? Please advise weird green people.


Less of the weird and green, if you don't mind

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 26/5/2011 10:41:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nomimalone

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hobbitonlass

I LOVE the books by C J Sansom!  Picked up the first one last year (Dissolution) and then devoured the following 3 very quickly (Dark Fire, Sovereign, Revelation).  Was pretty much camped on the door of the library for the new one which came out in November (Heartstone). 

All set around Henry VIII's time and about the reformation and I just love the way it's written.  You can really get the feel of the place with how he describes the time and places.    Wish there were more like this.  I like the religious side of it particulary so if there are any more about the reformation or around that time then I'd be interested


Totally agree. A friend recommended these to me because he knows I like a good mystery/thriller and I'm a history nut and I love them. Shardlake is a great character and Sansom writes about the period so well that you feel you're there!

I'm glad to see a recommendation for Wolf Hall too. Picked it up a while ago, but haven't got around to starting it yet.



Another Shardlake fan here. So far I've enjoyed Sovereign the most (Book 3) and am about to start Revelation. Well written books which balance the historical detail with the thriller aspects really well and have good characters. I'm often a bit lost in the history aspects since it's been half my life since I studied the Tudors in school.

After finishing the Shardlake series I have Ken Follett's World Without End to read.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 23/6/2011 10:52:13 AM   
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Have you read Simon Scarrow's Eagle Series?

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 28/6/2011 3:56:35 PM   
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Yep, all of them. Looking forward to Praetorian.

His Gladiator book was very good too although a bit too adult for young adult. The detail of his mother's rape was a bit much I thought.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 11/7/2011 8:51:00 PM   
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I'm not sure I'm necessarily along the same lines as you guys as far as historical fiction goes but can anyone recommend any WW1 set fiction? I've been reading All Quiet on the Western Front this last week and finding it quite riveting (not sure enjoyable is an appropriate phrase!) so it's kind of whet my appetite for that kind of thing. I think the only other novel with that setting that I've read is Birdsong, which I also really liked, so I'm open to all suggestions!

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 11/7/2011 9:57:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Super Hans

I'm not sure I'm necessarily along the same lines as you guys as far as historical fiction goes but can anyone recommend any WW1 set fiction? I've been reading All Quiet on the Western Front this last week and finding it quite riveting (not sure enjoyable is an appropriate phrase!) so it's kind of whet my appetite for that kind of thing. I think the only other novel with that setting that I've read is Birdsong, which I also really liked, so I'm open to all suggestions!


Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy immediately springs to mind here...although it's chiefly in England the spectre of the War still raging looms very high over it. It makes Birdsong look like a Jeffrey Archer to be honest.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 11/7/2011 10:30:56 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Super Hans

I'm not sure I'm necessarily along the same lines as you guys as far as historical fiction goes but can anyone recommend any WW1 set fiction? I've been reading All Quiet on the Western Front this last week and finding it quite riveting (not sure enjoyable is an appropriate phrase!) so it's kind of whet my appetite for that kind of thing. I think the only other novel with that setting that I've read is Birdsong, which I also really liked, so I'm open to all suggestions!


Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy immediately springs to mind here...although it's chiefly in England the spectre of the War still raging looms very high over it. It makes Birdsong look like a Jeffrey Archer to be honest.


I could say the same about All Quiet on the Western Front actually - makes Faulks look quite cheerful! Very good book so far though - I like the fact that the characters are German but they could be either of the nations - for the young men on the frontlines, it was the same horrific shit.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 12/7/2011 9:07:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Super Hans


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Super Hans

I'm not sure I'm necessarily along the same lines as you guys as far as historical fiction goes but can anyone recommend any WW1 set fiction? I've been reading All Quiet on the Western Front this last week and finding it quite riveting (not sure enjoyable is an appropriate phrase!) so it's kind of whet my appetite for that kind of thing. I think the only other novel with that setting that I've read is Birdsong, which I also really liked, so I'm open to all suggestions!


Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy immediately springs to mind here...although it's chiefly in England the spectre of the War still raging looms very high over it. It makes Birdsong look like a Jeffrey Archer to be honest.


I could say the same about All Quiet on the Western Front actually - makes Faulks look quite cheerful! Very good book so far though - I like the fact that the characters are German but they could be either of the nations - for the young men on the frontlines, it was the same horrific shit.


I haven't read it, but am sorely tempted to pick it up next as I just saw the 1930 film last week.  There's a 70's version as well I understand and a 2012 version according to IMDB.  Who is it written by?

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 12/7/2011 1:30:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: demoncleaner

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ORIGINAL: Super Hans


quote:

ORIGINAL: demoncleaner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Super Hans

I'm not sure I'm necessarily along the same lines as you guys as far as historical fiction goes but can anyone recommend any WW1 set fiction? I've been reading All Quiet on the Western Front this last week and finding it quite riveting (not sure enjoyable is an appropriate phrase!) so it's kind of whet my appetite for that kind of thing. I think the only other novel with that setting that I've read is Birdsong, which I also really liked, so I'm open to all suggestions!


Pat Barker's Regeneration trilogy immediately springs to mind here...although it's chiefly in England the spectre of the War still raging looms very high over it. It makes Birdsong look like a Jeffrey Archer to be honest.


I could say the same about All Quiet on the Western Front actually - makes Faulks look quite cheerful! Very good book so far though - I like the fact that the characters are German but they could be either of the nations - for the young men on the frontlines, it was the same horrific shit.


I haven't read it, but am sorely tempted to pick it up next as I just saw the 1930 film last week.  There's a 70's version as well I understand and a 2012 version according to IMDB.  Who is it written by?


It's by Erich Maria Remarque.  Yeah, I saw that there is a version coming out in 2012, although it's odd that there's no details whatsoever on IMDB!  I might have to seek out the 1930 film at some point.


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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 17/8/2011 2:45:48 PM   
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Anyone know of any historical fiction based on the Borgia family worth reading? 

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 18/8/2011 11:08:30 AM   
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Jean Plaidy (while she was still good) wrote a couple about Lucrezia. Showed her in a far more sympathetic light than she was ever really given. Madonna of the Seven Hills followed by Light on Lucrezia.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 18/8/2011 9:04:43 PM   
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Lovely stuff, thanks Funky. 

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 18/8/2011 10:12:25 PM   
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Then and Now by Somerset Maugham is about Nicollo Machiavelli on a diplomatic mission to treat with ruling war lord Cesare Borgia.  It's less brilliant than it sounds.  It's fairly light and entertaining when Machiavelli is describing the dark art of being a sneaky so and so, but the passages with Borgia are few and fairly slight.  The main focus is a sidelight on Machiavelli trying to seduce a merchant's wife merely for the honing of his mental skills.    

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 22/8/2011 3:06:17 PM   
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Lovely stuff, thanks Funky. 



This one has also been getting some fantastic reviews - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sins-House-Borgia-Sarah-Bower/dp/1402259638

Apparently it was originally released as 'Book of Love'.

I've been taken on as a reviewer for Historical Novel Society (http://www.historicalnovelsociety.org/ ) so should be getting some new and tasty books coming my way as of December.

I'll keep people posted in here of anything juicy I get sent.


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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 23/8/2011 12:51:58 PM   
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Cheers for the info Funky and demoncleaner. 

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 6/12/2011 10:42:38 PM   
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Stupidly small image but in honesty the cover doesn't actually do the book justice anyway.

A Spurious Brood is one of the books I'm reviewing for the HNS. Have to say it didn't grab me at the start but now I'm finding it increasingly difficult to put down. One of those books where you'll read it no matter how much it feels like you've rinsed your eyes in sand.

This is the story of the parents of four children who were on the transport records of The Mayflower. They were recorded as being indentured servants, the oldest was eight years old.

Set in a time when James had taken the throne after the death of Elizabeth and the lack of legal rights a woman had in that period of history, it's absolutely tragic when you read about the mother of these four children.

Certainly one of the best things the HNS have sent me to review and certainly one that I'd recommend.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 14/4/2012 2:35:29 PM   
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Our very own Russ Whitfield has a couple of books that look interesting.



This one is on its way.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 14/4/2012 3:37:01 PM   
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I'm not a huge fan of historical fiction - some are good, others I cannot stand.

I have no idea whether this counts as historical fiction -it's fiction addressing a historical issue (does that count?). Have any of you guys read Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time? It's about a current day, bedridden inspector who starts to read about Richard III (and more specifically, The Princes in the Tower), and it's absolutely fascinating - I'd highly recommend it if you're interested in that period.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 14/4/2012 4:45:49 PM   
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I'm not a huge fan of historical fiction - some are good, others I cannot stand.


Doesn't that ring true of all fiction?

Haven't come across that one, sounds interesting though.

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RE: The Historical Fiction thread - 3/5/2012 10:15:32 AM   
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Our very own Russ Whitfield has a couple of books that look interesting.



This one is on its way.



Blood, guts, gore, lesbian sex. It's no wonder my fiancé is enjoying this.

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