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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 19/7/2010 11:02:58 PM   
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Even though it was planted there to illicit an emotional response from Fischer, when he finds the windmill in the safe I was almost welling up. It was such a great moment and you have to remind yourself it's all staged!

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 1:30:42 AM   
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Did Cobb not enter limbo before Saito (Saito died after Cobb and Ariadne went into the final dream stage).

Don't think so!
Cobb went after Saito when he dies(and into limbo) with Page, as his wife,part of his subconscious,is trying to sabotage the inception.


No he didn't, Cobb went after Fischer when HE died. Saito was still alive when Cobb went into limbo, he was given the task of covering Eames and protecting the 'sleeping' bodies of Cobb and Ariadne when the base was being attacked. He died just after throwing a grenade down a shaft, preventing the bad guys from getting in. Cobb even says to Ariedne in limbo that Saito would have died since they left, and thats why he's staying (to look for him).

Cobb and Ariadne initially went into limbo to save Fischer.

Yeah,but Saito died too and entered Limbo-he was actually more important than Fischer,as even if the inception worked,there would be no pardon for Cobb.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 1:33:11 AM   
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Even though it was planted there to illicit an emotional response from Fischer, when he finds the windmill in the safe I was almost welling up. It was such a great moment and you have to remind yourself it's all staged!

Yeah,it was an amazing moment,and although staged,it just achingly showed a sons yearning to be loved.
Probably a stand out scene of the catharsis and human issues involved in a very complex drama where reality was hard to decipher.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 4:57:33 AM   
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I've done little but think about his film since seeing it last night and it's now making my head hurt, and the theories on here aren't helping



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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 8:44:41 AM   
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Must admit, it caused a little disagreement in this household last night. I've been tracking this film for a while now and so I managed to get the wife to come along, mainly because I went to see Eclipse with her. I really thought she wouldn't "get it", but she did and loved it. Now, Mrs. Blue Lupus believes the film is as we saw it and that in the end Cobb does get home. Me on the other hand looked it into a bit deeper, my theory was it was all just one big dream. Maybe four levels of dream? Cobb was never not allowed into America and perhaps HE was the owner of the energy business the whole time and he was returning home to his family as any other business man would. Why was his father at the airport? How did he know he was going to be home? The kids in the garden playing? The look on everybody's face on the plane? They looked like they'd never seen Cobb in their lives. Where was all the equipment they'd been hooked up to? Many unanswered questions and it might be for the best to leave it at that. The audience can almost create their own story from what Nolan has developed. It's like he's planted the seed in our minds, to coin a phrase.

A quality, quality film I shall be purchasing on Blu-Ray.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 9:33:13 AM   
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Did Cobb not enter limbo before Saito (Saito died after Cobb and Ariadne went into the final dream stage).

Don't think so!
Cobb went after Saito when he dies(and into limbo) with Page, as his wife,part of his subconscious,is trying to sabotage the inception.


No he didn't, Cobb went after Fischer when HE died. Saito was still alive when Cobb went into limbo, he was given the task of covering Eames and protecting the 'sleeping' bodies of Cobb and Ariadne when the base was being attacked. He died just after throwing a grenade down a shaft, preventing the bad guys from getting in. Cobb even says to Ariedne in limbo that Saito would have died since they left, and thats why he's staying (to look for him).

Cobb and Ariadne initially went into limbo to save Fischer.

Yeah,but Saito died too and entered Limbo-he was actually more important than Fischer,as even if the inception worked,there would be no pardon for Cobb.


Yeah, but I'm not questioning that. I was just wanting to establish the correct order of those entering limbo, which is -


Fischer - Stabbed by Mal on level three.

followed by

Cobb and Ariadne - who followed Mal from level three.

followed by

Saito - who died with level three as the deepest of the levels, which dictates that he also died on levels 1 and 2.

The fact that he effectively died and entered limbo from three different levels must be of importance.




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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 9:34:17 AM   
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I watched Following last night. One of the leads is called Cobb. Coincidence?

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 9:59:01 AM   
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I watched Following last night. One of the leads is called Cobb. Coincidence?


In the Empire review I think Nev earmarks significance in the names for all of the characters (probably with the exception of Saito – although in fairness Sato was the villain in Karate Kid II lest we forget!) including Eames and Arthur (am I right in saying they derive from names of academics who researched sleep…stuff?), and Mal (“which means bad in French” – a bit limp that one) and Ariadne goes without saying.  I haven’t seen Following, but isn’t it the case that the Cobb in that is also a thief?

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 10:36:57 AM   
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I watched Following last night. One of the leads is called Cobb. Coincidence?


In the Empire review I think Nev earmarks significance in the names for all of the characters (probably with the exception of Saito – although in fairness Sato was the villain in Karate Kid II lest we forget!) including Eames and Arthur (am I right in saying they derive from names of academics who researched sleep…stuff?), and Mal (“which means bad in French” – a bit limp that one) and Ariadne goes without saying.  I haven’t seen Following, but isn’t it the case that the Cobb in that is also a thief?


Yes he is, a burglar in fact. The interesting thing tho, is that rather than simply steal he uses burglaries to place ideas into people's minds (for example, he does something to suggest to a woman that her husband is cheating on her. For Cobb (in Following), its more about the provocation of the act than the addition gained through stealing. Which, to me at least, draws comparisons to the Joker and Cobb in Inception.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 3:51:01 PM   
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I hate turning up late to the theory party, I missed the discussion !

Anyways, magnificent film. I'm not going to theorise anything new, but I'd speculate the ending symbolism of the spinning top is simply of infinity and is the suggestion that we are still inside Cobb's dream in the same way that the job of the architect is to construct an infinitesimal dreamscape. Perhaps I'm not reading it acccurately, but it appeared to me that way on reflection.



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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 3:53:05 PM   
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Question: why didn't Fischer take a pirvate jet? He obviously had the money. I'm not asking to be a smart arse, I just wondered if I missed something..

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 4:10:05 PM   
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Question: why didn't Fischer take a pirvate jet? He obviously had the money. I'm not asking to be a smart arse, I just wondered if I missed something..


You did, don't worry -its quite a dense film. His private plane broke down, or at least the team ensured that is what happened.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 5:01:22 PM   
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Off to watch it again tonight. I'm going to pay more attention (I thought I paid attention last time!) and see how these theories fit with my viewing, and come back with renewed theories of my own later!

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 5:07:23 PM   
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Love the film, and loving some of theories on here - I'm gonna have to go see it again and put some of these theories to the test!
I do have one tiny niggling issue though... why is being trapped in limbo built up to be this horrible fate, possibly worse than death, when all you have to do to escape it is die, much like in a normal dream?? Perhaps I'm missing something here, can anyone shed any light on this for me please?!

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 5:29:58 PM   
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I do have one tiny niggling issue though... why is being trapped in limbo built up to be this horrible fate, possibly worse than death, when all you have to do to escape it is die, much like in a normal dream?? Perhaps I'm missing something here, can anyone shed any light on this for me please?!


Its because you don't know that you are in limbo. Its so far into the subconscious that you can't tell the difference. Saito's assertion that he remembers Cobb from "some half-remembered dream" suggests that Saito is so into his subconscious that that is his "real" world now, and the real-real world is remembered like we remember dreams.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 5:41:43 PM   
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I do have one tiny niggling issue though... why is being trapped in limbo built up to be this horrible fate, possibly worse than death, when all you have to do to escape it is die, much like in a normal dream?? Perhaps I'm missing something here, can anyone shed any light on this for me please?!


Its because you don't know that you are in limbo. Its so far into the subconscious that you can't tell the difference. Saito's assertion that he remembers Cobb from "some half-remembered dream" suggests that Saito is so into his subconscious that that is his "real" world now, and the real-real world is remembered like we remember dreams.


Yep. It reminds me of something I read once about a man diagnosed with Alzheimers.  He said he would rather kill himself, but wanted to wait it out so he could enjoy as much as was left of his life in a lucid state.  But that he couldn't leave it too long, in case he forgot to do it.  Limbo's not made easy because you have a way out.  It's made difficult because the person there forgets there's a way out, I suppose.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 8:14:52 PM   
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Cheers guys, makes sense  

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 11:13:46 PM   
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I haven't been able to properly process all the theories that are going on in here, but what I find interesting is that the film itself is using the idea of Inception to mess with all our heads in the way we're doing.

I just thought the film played out as straight forward as it appeared to be. That Cobb did wake up and get to return to his kids etc. I told my friend some of the theories on here and he thought the final scene was more of a cheeky "oh,oh" type thing rather than some of the more convoluted ideas being suggested.

However Nolan is a genius in that he's managed to make his film so ambiguous that he's planted this little seed of doubt in our heads that means we're all going to go back and watch that film and see it in a different light following all this.

Nolan himself would therefore appear to be a master of inception!

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 11:20:20 PM   
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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 20/7/2010 11:32:12 PM   
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I haven't been able to properly process all the theories that are going on in here, but what I find interesting is that the film itself is using the idea of Inception to mess with all our heads in the way we're doing.

I just thought the film played out as straight forward as it appeared to be. That Cobb did wake up and get to return to his kids etc. I told my friend some of the theories on here and he thought the final scene was more of a cheeky "oh,oh" type thing rather than some of the more convoluted ideas being suggested.

However Nolan is a genius in that he's managed to make his film so ambiguous that he's planted this little seed of doubt in our heads that means we're all going to go back and watch that film and see it in a different light following all this.

Nolan himself would therefore appear to be a master of inception!


I wouldn't call them convoluted. It is just a matter from what angle you are looking at the film from. I do think there is a very specific statement by Nolan about the filmmaker he is, and how his head works.

But the dream/not dream/who is being incepted can all be sustained by what you see in the film. I don't think Nolan is being playful, it is a statement on movies and what they can do, and how they play on peoples minds.

The ending is meant to be a jumping off of discussion and debate - it is the Inception on the audience that plants the idea of questioning what we have seen before.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 12:07:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44


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ORIGINAL: Sway

I haven't been able to properly process all the theories that are going on in here, but what I find interesting is that the film itself is using the idea of Inception to mess with all our heads in the way we're doing.

I just thought the film played out as straight forward as it appeared to be. That Cobb did wake up and get to return to his kids etc. I told my friend some of the theories on here and he thought the final scene was more of a cheeky "oh,oh" type thing rather than some of the more convoluted ideas being suggested.

However Nolan is a genius in that he's managed to make his film so ambiguous that he's planted this little seed of doubt in our heads that means we're all going to go back and watch that film and see it in a different light following all this.

Nolan himself would therefore appear to be a master of inception!



I wouldn't call them convoluted. It is just a matter from what angle you are looking at the film from. I do think there is a very specific statement by Nolan about the filmmaker he is, and how his head works.

But the dream/not dream/who is being incepted can all be sustained by what you see in the film. I don't think Nolan is being playful, it is a statement on movies and what they can do, and how they play on peoples minds.

The ending is meant to be a jumping off of discussion and debate - it is the Inception on the audience that plants the idea of questioning what we have seen before.


That's exactly what I was saying, or at least I thought that's what the bit in my own post I've highlighted was saying. Nolan has given us enough in the film to make us question it all at the very end.

And personally I do think he's being playful in that respect. Bit of a wry smile at the end.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 12:16:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sway


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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sway

I haven't been able to properly process all the theories that are going on in here, but what I find interesting is that the film itself is using the idea of Inception to mess with all our heads in the way we're doing.

I just thought the film played out as straight forward as it appeared to be. That Cobb did wake up and get to return to his kids etc. I told my friend some of the theories on here and he thought the final scene was more of a cheeky "oh,oh" type thing rather than some of the more convoluted ideas being suggested.

However Nolan is a genius in that he's managed to make his film so ambiguous that he's planted this little seed of doubt in our heads that means we're all going to go back and watch that film and see it in a different light following all this.

Nolan himself would therefore appear to be a master of inception!



I wouldn't call them convoluted. It is just a matter from what angle you are looking at the film from. I do think there is a very specific statement by Nolan about the filmmaker he is, and how his head works.

But the dream/not dream/who is being incepted can all be sustained by what you see in the film. I don't think Nolan is being playful, it is a statement on movies and what they can do, and how they play on peoples minds.

The ending is meant to be a jumping off of discussion and debate - it is the Inception on the audience that plants the idea of questioning what we have seen before.


That's exactly what I was saying, or at least I thought that's what the bit in my own post I've highlighted was saying. Nolan has given us enough in the film to make us question it all at the very end.

And personally I do think he's being playful in that respect. Bit of a wry smile at the end.


Sorry - was just backing you up, but also kinda defending why these convoluted theories are out there. And I am guilty of it as well, although I haven't really got any further ideas than the three I posted on the first page.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 1:11:37 AM   
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I've just been a second time, and first off, what a magnificent film it is. Genuinely, a fantastic achievement.

As for what I think happened - I think the top falls over after the credits roll and Cobb is in the real world. There are the random other bits, the repeated lines of dialogue, the walls that close in, etc, but I think they are red herrings laid by Nolan to make you think there is more to the film than what there is. But I do admire the film so much for being able to stand up on those levels - as clearly it does.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 10:00:55 AM   
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I've just been a second time, and first off, what a magnificent film it is. Genuinely, a fantastic achievement.

As for what I think happened - I think the top falls over after the credits roll and Cobb is in the real world. There are the random other bits, the repeated lines of dialogue, the walls that close in, etc, but I think they are red herrings laid by Nolan to make you think there is more to the film than what there is. But I do admire the film so much for being able to stand up on those levels - as clearly it does.


I think regardless of whether the spinning top falls or not doesn't matter, it is Cobb abandoning it that is important. If we go by the rules of extraction his totem isn't even reliable - his wife had it and Saito spun it - other people had used it.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 10:40:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44


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ORIGINAL: Sway


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ORIGINAL: Rgirvan44


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ORIGINAL: Sway

I haven't been able to properly process all the theories that are going on in here, but what I find interesting is that the film itself is using the idea of Inception to mess with all our heads in the way we're doing.

I just thought the film played out as straight forward as it appeared to be. That Cobb did wake up and get to return to his kids etc. I told my friend some of the theories on here and he thought the final scene was more of a cheeky "oh,oh" type thing rather than some of the more convoluted ideas being suggested.

However Nolan is a genius in that he's managed to make his film so ambiguous that he's planted this little seed of doubt in our heads that means we're all going to go back and watch that film and see it in a different light following all this.

Nolan himself would therefore appear to be a master of inception!



I wouldn't call them convoluted. It is just a matter from what angle you are looking at the film from. I do think there is a very specific statement by Nolan about the filmmaker he is, and how his head works.

But the dream/not dream/who is being incepted can all be sustained by what you see in the film. I don't think Nolan is being playful, it is a statement on movies and what they can do, and how they play on peoples minds.

The ending is meant to be a jumping off of discussion and debate - it is the Inception on the audience that plants the idea of questioning what we have seen before.


That's exactly what I was saying, or at least I thought that's what the bit in my own post I've highlighted was saying. Nolan has given us enough in the film to make us question it all at the very end.

And personally I do think he's being playful in that respect. Bit of a wry smile at the end.


Sorry - was just backing you up, but also kinda defending why these convoluted theories are out there. And I am guilty of it as well, although I haven't really got any further ideas than the three I posted on the first page.


No worries, I didn't mean to sound argumentative either, and I clearly didn't pick my words wisely when I used "convoluted". I was kind of just meaning that I think my friend wants to take the film at face value rather than reading further into possible clues. Not that the theories are convoluted, but just that they require a little more thought than taking the film at face value.

Anyway I think I need to see it again for definite to see whether I still think it plays out straight myself with the final scene being a cheeky wee wink or whether I think the theory about it all being Cobb's dream is possible. I am leaning myself towards it more being a case of Nolan being the ultimate Inceptor and leaving these clues to plant the idea in our minds and to then question everything we've seen... I know this is not why he's done the film, but he's going to be raking in the money from people going to see it two or three times to decide how they think it's actually played out!

Just out of curiosity, and I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned on the review thread but has anybody here seen Shutter Island? If you haven't, please skip the following lines which contain spoilers....

*********SPOILERS ABOUT SHUTTER ISLAND AND INCEPTION ***********

Anybody else draw a parallel between Cobb and Daniels characters/lives? It's obviously a total coincidence but I just found it really interesting that both of Leo's recent characters have had reality perception problems and influential problems with their family lives that have gone onto shape their entire characters. Even more interesting is both final scenes in each film get you questioning what you thought was happening until that point. It's sheer coincidence, so I'm not trying to say anything by it, or infer Inception was influenced by Shutter Island, because that would be impossible, I just think it's a funny little observation. I wonder if it was something Leonardo was aware of himself.


**********End of Spoilers*****************

Anyway, I'm looking forward to watching this again to see if I have a completely different view second time round.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 11:48:52 AM   
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With regard to Shutter Island - I would be interested to know exactly when filming of both movies took place, cause it does make for an interesting double bill.

Also liked the injoke about the song used to raise the alarm and Marion Cotillard. Unless it wasn't an injoke.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 12:20:01 PM   
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thinking about Inception this morning, perhaps my brain had melted by the climax, but there seemed some confusion at the end about whether Cobb and Ariadne entered Limbo or yet another dream level from the Snow level to save Fischer.

I might have lapsed in concentration for a moment or two, but it makes more sense to me if there was a 5th level (4th dream - Cobb's) to which Cobb, Ariadne (who both shouldn't have gone to Limbo since they weren't killed) and Fischer (who was presumably not dead since he was revived by Eames) went, wherein Ariadne and Fischer 'kicked' back by falling, whereas Cobb died from being stabbed by Mal and entered Limbo to find Saito.

Leaving aside the possibility of a Level 0 (ie Actual reality), was it clearer than I thought, or was that a bit confused there?


Level 1: Plane (Reality) Kick: none, sedative runs out

Level 2: Van (dreamt by Yusuf) Kick: Van hits water (All go into dream)

Level 3: Hotel (dreamt by Arthur) Kick: Elevator (All except Yusuf go)

Level 4: Snow (dreamt by Eames) Kick: Building explodes (All except Arthur, Yusuf go)

Level 5: Cobb's world (dreamt by Cobb) Kick : Falling (Only Cobb, Ariadne, Fischer go)

Level 6: Limbo (no dream, Saito and Cobb there because they died: Saito in Level 4, Cobb in Level 5) Kick: Death (implied)

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 12:47:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moffmyster

Love the film, and loving some of theories on here - I'm gonna have to go see it again and put some of these theories to the test!
I do have one tiny niggling issue though... why is being trapped in limbo built up to be this horrible fate, possibly worse than death, when all you have to do to escape it is die, much like in a normal dream?? Perhaps I'm missing something here, can anyone shed any light on this for me please?!


I think when in limbo you can't tell whether you're in limbo or the real world. I can't remember who said it on here - but they made a valid point comparing this to the condition of Alzheimers.

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 1:44:34 PM   
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Cobb spins the top at the end just to check he's not actually dreaming, so wouldn't this tell him either way when he returns to it? If it's still spinning he'll know he's still dreaming. If not, he'll know it's reality. Does Michael Caine's character acknowledge the top?

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RE: Inception - Beware of Spoilers!! - 21/7/2010 2:15:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HIM

Cobb spins the top at the end just to check he's not actually dreaming, so wouldn't this tell him either way when he returns to it? If it's still spinning he'll know he's still dreaming. If not, he'll know it's reality. Does Michael Caine's character acknowledge the top?



Caine had turned away from Cobb when he spins it. Thats something I looked out for especially on second viewing.

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