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RE: The film that made me sit up and take notice of Nolan - 26/9/2010 6:07:46 PM   
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Inception is a film that has been greatly anticipated, but how could it not be, when Christopher Nolan is at the helm? After Nolan reinvented Batman in Batman Begins and solidified that reinvention as a piece of cinematic art in The Dark Knight, he has been considered one of the greatest directors of this generation.

It may have been The Dark Knight that helped build up interest for Inception, but what audiences were promised was something quite different. The trailers, with the loud noises and imagery of a sun-dappled city folding in on itself like a book being closed, confused yet intrigued. Then there was the plot being based around dreams. Dreams have always been a fascinating subject for any form of fiction to tackle, a great starting point for explorations of the human psyche and the nature of reality. Nolan, having made so many films with psychological undertones, seemed born to make a film about dreams, and he makes an excellent one.

The story of Inception, not to give too much away, revolves around Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) who lives in a world where entering and exploring the dreams of others is possible. Cobb is an expert at the science of extracting secrets from other people’s minds through entering their dreams, and while it has been useful, it has also ruined his life and means he has had to move away from his children. He is then approached by Arthur (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), who wants him to use interception, the art of using dream travel to put an idea into someone’s mind. Realising this may be the only way he may ever see his children again, he decides to go through with this, aided by young Adriane (Ellen Page), who he teaches about using dreams to build things, and a ‘dream team’. His task is made a little more difficult as his dreams and his memories begin to intertwine.

The story of Inception may not be as confusing as some people have said, but the viewer is still likely to get lost in places and it may require a second viewing. That is not a bad thing, though, far from it. If a film makes one want to see it again, doesn’t that mean it has done something right? Eraserhead’s plot may not have made much sense but the confusion it brought was appropriate for its subject matter. Likewise, dreams usually are confusing, but make sense in their own strange way, and Inception, being a film based on dreams, feels the same. The characters are facing a strange and unusual situation which would undoubtedly disorientate them, and the audience is disorientated as much as the dream team are.

The movie is worth seeing for the spectacle of the dream-worlds alone. When the Cobb of reality is plunged into water, the house of his dreams is instantly flooded. These dream worlds feature Escher-esque stairways and trains that run on roads. Things that are out of the ordinary, but are also strangely fitting.

Like DiCaprio’s character in Shutter Island, and probably every protagonist of a thriller, Cobb is still trying to get over the death of his wife. The story and setting mean that this element is implemented in a different, more creative way than one would initially expect, and seeing it unfold is one of the film’s biggest highlights.

One of the best things about Christopher Nolan’s movies is that the characters are usually going to be excellently cast, Heath Ledger’s phenomenal Joker being a strong example. So it is no surprise that DiCaprio, while not reaching the heights of Ledger’s famed villain, is brilliantly cast as the dream-exploring Dom Cobb. His performance is natural, sympathetic and believable, and his best scenes are those with his wife. Joseph Gordon-Levitt also creates a strong performance, as do Page and Cillian Murphy, who plays the target of the inception. Michael Caine also has a small but noticeable appearance as Cobb’s father, where he brings the same warmth and wisdom he did as Alfred Pennyworth.

People are hailing this movie as Nolan’s greatest work. It’s different enough from The Dark Knight that the two movies shouldn’t really be compared, but Inception does show Nolan is truly a genius, and the film industry needs more people like him.
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RE: Really wanna see it NOW - 29/9/2010 8:16:48 PM   
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I just watched Inception and absolutely loved it. At last a movie that justified all the hype around it.

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RE: Inception (2010) - 7/10/2010 5:47:53 AM   
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Loved it - v intriguing film with some great performances. I really enjoyed Tom Hardy's performance as Eames - mischevious and engaging - and I can't believe no one else has mentioned him. This is a definite purchase on DVD when it comes out.
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RE: Inception (2010) - 9/10/2010 9:23:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: citygirl23

Loved it - v intriguing film with some great performances. I really enjoyed Tom Hardy's performance as Eames - mischevious and engaging - and I can't believe no one else has mentioned him. This is a definite purchase on DVD when it comes out.


Welcome to the boards, but if you read through this thread and others on the subject of Inception you'll see a lot of people have rightly praised Hardy's performance.

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RE: Inception (2010) - 9/10/2010 4:19:35 PM   
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Please be kidding....

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RE: I still can't get out of my head... - 5/1/2011 2:26:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BatSpider

.. the fact that Inception sucks, and Chris "12 certificate" Nolan can't choreograph fight scenes to save his life, and has never directed a shagging scene after how many movies? Even Spielberg's done a few of those. There are no challenging themes in his movies - nothing controversial or confrontational whatsoever. By challenging I don't mean convoluted. Nolan is the Dettol of action / fantasy movies - sterile, safe, manufactured, and designed for mass consumption. His biggest trick is planting the idea in enough people's brains that his movies are "intellectual". Self-serving intellectual popcorn more like. That's the real inception, and sheep mentality does the rest.  


I completely agree with you BatSpider.

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RE: Whats with all this talk about the ending, it's a j... - 6/1/2011 9:48:02 PM   
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The reason you guys are slating the film is because you are viewing it as an action film where there has to be "danger." There was danger in the film but ignoring that anyway the main reason I liked the film was because of the emotion.
Marion Cotillard's performance gave me chills, alluring yet terrifying. I cannot believe somebody called her wooden?
The visuals were fantastic agreed but look past that and see the emotion beneath it and the theme of uncertainty- life is full of uncertainty but at the end Leo moves on- we don't know if what he is living in is an illusion because the totem keeps spinning but thats the point of the film- we accept the uncertainty and risk.
He makes a conscious decision to just be there for his kids, his mind is tricking him into believing it is not real until he doesn't know what reality is anymore so he just gets on with it and comes home- there is a lot of rich metaphors in that.

As for the dreams I thought they were well thought out, it is so true that we end up in the middle of our dreams with no idea how we got there and yes the dreams weren't surreal/artistic stuff like Lynch's films but the point of the film was never to be an artistic film so that is a ridiculous comparison.

Also how is it is Matrix rip off? It is nothing like The Matrix! The Matrix is an action film which is virtual reality and people are plugged into machines giving it a whole sci-fi style. Inception we don't know what the world is- it's uncertainty and people have the ability to enter each others dreams and can get lost in what is real and what isn't (which served a great metaphor for how we can sometimes get lost in our thoughts and get so worried by then its hard to come back to reality.)

The films are nothing alike. As for them making up the rules as they went along I thought the rules were explained pretty simply and effectively, I guess you just got bored or something which is fair enough as perhaps the movie isn't for you but there's no need to call it a rip off and the like.
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RE: Whats with all this talk about the ending, it's a j... - 7/1/2011 5:08:00 PM   
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I really enjoyed it but it was complication over sophistication. A goo film and as already pointed out, great manipulation of physics only to be let down by very weak action pieces. I'd give it a 3.5 stars.

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RE: Whats with all this talk about the ending, it's a j... - 7/1/2011 5:09:47 PM   
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I really enjoyed it but it was complication over sophistication. A goo film and as already pointed out, great manipulation of physics only to be let down by very weak action pieces. I'd give it a 3.5 stars.

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RE: Brilliant and unique - 11/1/2011 12:37:02 PM   
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I caught this at the cinema twice and last night was the first time I've watched it since then. I must point out I loved it in the cinema but being honest was expecting on this small screen viewing, that some of the gloss and sheen had rubbed off. How wrong I was!

I love Inception. I by no means think it is perfect, infact its hard to define what type of film its trying to be, sci-fi, action thriller etc... But for me, whatever faults it has are far out weighed by its positive points.

I find the subject matter interesting....dreams within dreams....yes it might be a load of old gash, but who cares? Its the kind entertaining fiction that I want to be sucked into. I think the story plays out with great pacing leading to a satisfying climax. The characters are all interesting and fleshed out enough for you to care about them. Visually its strong it both its style and special effects. An to top it all off I think the sound track is superb.

Overall I would say that Inception is a pure moive it terms of escapism. It really transports me to a place where I dont even question the science behind how they can go into dreams, I just believe it. For me that is the art of good story telling.

5 Stars.

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RE: Inception - 13/1/2011 10:21:27 PM   
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I've just watched Inception for the second time, and I'm really disappointed. I REALLY wanted to like this, and discover elements, depths and understandings of the film that make me enjoy it all the more. This happened with The Departed, but unfortunately watching Inception a second time for me just confirmed what overrated nonsense this is.

Nolan is undoubtedly a master filmmaker. He takes risks, executes his movies with such skill and art that it's difficult to dislike his work. But Inception seems too complicated and over-reaching for even Nolan to deal with. He himself says he had been working on this for 10 years, enough to drive a demanding creative person like him a little too 'layer obsessed'.

Watching a second time threw up even more clearly the problems I had the first time round. No, I wasn't 'dreaming', Inception really DIDN"T make any sense. For example, Eames says, while they are about to go to the second level, "so now we're trapped in Fisher's mind battling an army". This is completely incorrect because they aren't IN Fisher's dream. What he should have said was 'so we're trapped WITH Fisher's mind'. This was infuriating because I was desperately trying to understand the mechanics of how the dream levels / dream leaders concept worked. But with inconsistencies like this, I lost faith in the entire premise.

I'm now resolved - Inception is masterfully executed nonsense. All I can do is genuinely applaud Nolan's effort, but for me - it's just not good enough.

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RE: Inception - 13/1/2011 11:37:52 PM   
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I agree although I'm more forgiving. I need to see it again to get it right but I'm sure there are other plot holes that are well covered but would actually kill the story. Like the falling to wake you up. That would only work physically, so doing it in dreams where there isn't gravity is pointless yet this hinges all dream layers together.

I think they glossed over the point that beocuse the characters are dreaming they can do anything, like suddenly become mountain ninjas. Nolan should have been more specific as to how that worked.

Also I think it can be linked to the Matrix for it's core mechanic, how can it not? They're almost identical.

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RE: Inception - 16/1/2011 5:50:07 PM   
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Yes, it can be linked to the Matrix, as a few people have pointed out. But I think the W.Brothers seemed to make more of an effort to create a solid premise that holds up to scrutiny. I guess it sits in that 'alternate reality' category.

I really don't think it's good enough to create something that's so complicated and ultimately so confusing, that your audience dismiss their lack of understanding because they think they haven't thought about it enough - as if further thought will uncover all the mysteries and complexities that have so far eluded them. Nolan should have made sure every single part of this story works. And when I say 'works', i don't mean coming up with a handful of 'get out of jail free' cards such as 'but that's how limbo works in this film!'.

It's the challenge all storytellers have to rise to - to tell a story that utterly convices the audience without confusing them. There's a massive difference between confusion and ambiguity, and I think Nolan crossed the line.

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RE: Inception - 16/1/2011 5:50:59 PM   
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Yes, it can be linked to the Matrix, as a few people have pointed out. But I think the W.Brothers seemed to make more of an effort to create a solid premise that holds up to scrutiny. I guess it sits in that 'alternate reality' category.

I really don't think it's good enough to create something that's so complicated and ultimately so confusing, that your audience dismiss their lack of understanding because they think they haven't thought about it enough - as if further thought will uncover all the mysteries and complexities that have so far eluded them. Nolan should have made sure every single part of this story works. And when I say 'works', i don't mean coming up with a handful of 'get out of jail free' cards such as 'but that's how limbo works in this film!'.

It's the challenge all storytellers have to rise to - to tell a story that utterly convices the audience without confusing them. There's a massive difference between confusion and ambiguity, and I think Nolan crossed the line.

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RE: Inception - 16/1/2011 5:54:29 PM   
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Sorry for the duplicate post. Seems like the forum is playing up.

Just watched a bit of the South Park parody. They summed it up perfectly 'it's so complex it's cool.' Couldn't have said it better myself.

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RE: Inception - 3/2/2011 11:50:39 AM   
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The story can be told for certain phrases, or did not say anything. Here is a film about the immune spoilers: If you knew how it ended, telling you nothing if you do not know how it got there.

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RE: Really wanna see it NOW - 3/2/2011 11:51:55 AM   
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The story can be told for certain phrases, or did not say anything. Here is a film about the immune spoilers: If you knew how it ended, telling you nothing if you do not know how it got there.

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Inception and Buddhism - 13/8/2015 3:22:56 PM   
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such a powerful movie, perfectly edited with a great soundtrack. Dicaprio deserves an oscar but is so well-supported by all the cast. Great themes of dealing with death and loss and the desire to avoid suffering through self-delusion. There is a story about the buddha who was confronted by a woman who had lost her baby but had convinced herself it was simply ill so he asked her to collect a mustard seed to help the baby from a house where no-one had lost a friend or a relative. She goes on the quest and inevitably meets no-one who can provide her with the seed but is able to come to terms with her loss.

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