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Full Metal Jacket - 9/2/2006 4:07:17 PM   
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RE: Full Metal Jacket - 9/2/2006 5:47:38 PM   
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The first half of the movie is outstanding but the second half could have been better and longer.

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RE: Full Metal Jacket - 9/2/2006 7:56:12 PM   
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The end part with the sniper is very good, and almost on a par with the first half, but the rest of the second half in Vietnam does drag a bit. Full Metal Jacket is not one of my favourite Kubricks but that doesn't mean it isn't a good film.

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Full Metal Jacket - 26/4/2006 7:37:29 PM   
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Totally agree with above users. The first half when they're in training is great, but the second half is all samey and gets very tedious where different things should've happened rather than just random shooting. Still a very good movie.

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Full Fetal Jacket - 30/4/2006 10:41:35 AM   
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One of Kubricks best films although the first half is much better than the second. An excelent movie and worth watching.

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what the hell are you lot talking about??? - 25/5/2006 12:03:51 AM   
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this film is without doubt one of the best vietnam films out there. Darker and more disturbing than Platoon, the sheer intensity of this film will keep it in your mind for weeks

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Full Metal Jacket - 12/3/2007 7:18:22 PM   
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One of his best along with A Clockwork Orange and 2001: A Space Odyssey, he ceases to amaze with such a thrilling and thought provoking film, it still leaves me amazed as the film follows the demise of Pvt. Pyle to some of the soldiers in the battlefield, although i do have to have to agree with someones earlier review, some parts do drag on a bit, but overall its was and still is and hopefully will still remain a cracking film

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Full Metal Jacket - 12/3/2007 7:18:29 PM   
sneekysneade

 

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One of his best along with A Clockwork Orange and 2001: A Space Odyssey, he ceases to amaze with such a thrilling and thought provoking film, it still leaves me amazed as the film follows the demise of Pvt. Pyle to some of the soldiers in the battlefield, although i do have to have to agree with someones earlier review, some parts do drag on a bit, but overall its was and still is and hopefully will still remain a cracking film

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- 25/3/2007 2:11:18 PM   
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Fantastic but the second half is a let down compared to the first half with R. Lee Ermey's superb drill instructor

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- 21/10/2007 1:50:53 AM   
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3 stars is insulting

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- 21/10/2007 1:50:54 AM   
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3 stars is insulting

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- 22/10/2007 5:02:47 PM   
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sir no sir - 3 stars your takin the piss

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- 22/10/2007 5:02:47 PM   
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sir no sir - 3 stars your takin the piss

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- 1/2/2008 1:15:35 PM   
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Kubrick's worst film.

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- 28/2/2008 5:18:58 PM   
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I see what Empire means, I found a little uneven, and I feel they should have showed more of their training at bootcamp rather than the drill instructour yelling, but then again R.Lee Emery's performance is the reason why you would watch this film, and it didn't show veitnam the hell it was, as well as platoon did, but it is still a good effort on Kubricks part, and it shows that some men can snap even before they reach the battlefeild.

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- 9/3/2008 11:48:35 AM   
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Devastating, powerful and dark. It may not be Kubrick's best but it still stays with you long after viewing 3 stars is harsh and maybe 5 stars is a bit generous. Everything is impeccably crafted and it is well crafted and certainly better than most of the VIetnam movies that came out in the 80's.

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- 9/3/2008 11:48:35 AM   
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Devastating, powerful and dark. It may not be Kubrick's best but it still stays with you long after viewing 3 stars is harsh and maybe 5 stars is a bit generous. Everything is impeccably crafted and it is well crafted and certainly better than most of the VIetnam movies that came out in the 80's.

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- 8/7/2008 8:54:11 PM   
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worst empire review

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- 8/7/2008 8:54:13 PM   
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worst empire review

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If war is hell, then should this film even EXIST? - 21/7/2008 1:55:24 PM   
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Cuz it sure ain't hellish

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- 19/9/2008 9:41:59 PM   
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3 stars? fuck off. you give crappy overrated films like pulp fiction and others 5 stars and cant see how much better full metal jacket is. so what if he didnt make it like the boring as hell 2001, its a great movie

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- 24/9/2008 10:35:58 AM   
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I kinda have to agree with Empire here ...the first act of the movie with the training boot camp is gripping cinema ...but the second act in the war actually drags alot for me.

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- 25/9/2008 4:50:18 PM   
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LET ME SEE YOUR WARFACE!!!!!!

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RE: - 9/4/2009 6:10:47 PM   
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this should be worth 5 stars for the drill seargent scene alone

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RE: RE: - 9/4/2009 6:57:20 PM   
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A fucking classic........5/5.......


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"Are you quitting on me?! Well, are you?! Then quit, you slimy fucking walrus-looking piece of shit! Get the fuck off of my obstacle! Get the fuck down off of my obstacle! Now! Move it! I'm going to rip your balls off, so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world! I will motivate you if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo!"




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RE: RE: - 9/4/2009 7:58:19 PM   
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Personally I think the second half is equal to the first.

The first half breaks Private Pyle's personality, spirit and dignity. The second half robs Private Joker of his.

War is hell, and you will either be broken by the process of getting ready for it, or broken more slowly, and forever by the experience of it.

Neither half works properly without the other, and Kubrick very specifically had Hartman say 'What's this Mickey Mouse shit?' in the first half to tie both halves together (and in anticipation of people not understanding the ending!).

Yes, it's funny to see Pyle being berated, but that's the trick Kubrick was pulling, to make the audience laugh at Pyle, and thereby be complicit in his destruction. The film makes me ask questions of my own behaviour and whether I want to be part of the group, laughing at the weakest in order to avoid being the one the group tun on next (you'll note Joker tried to help Pyle at first, even helping him keep his identity by calling him by his name, Leonard, before he gives up on Pyle and joins in with the punishment, even while still not wishing to do so, beating Pyle all the harder for making him feel so guilty).

I still laugh at the abuse of pyle while watching the film, but it is very uneasy laughter these days, cos it really aint all THAT funny to humiliate someone so much they lose the will to live! 

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RE: RE: - 11/4/2009 12:23:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jobloffski

Personally I think the second half is equal to the first.

The first half breaks Private Pyle's personality, spirit and dignity. The second half robs Private Joker of his.

War is hell, and you will either be broken by the process of getting ready for it, or broken more slowly, and forever by the experience of it.

Neither half works properly without the other, and Kubrick very specifically had Hartman say 'What's this Mickey Mouse shit?' in the first half to tie both halves together (and in anticipation of people not understanding the ending!).

Yes, it's funny to see Pyle being berated, but that's the trick Kubrick was pulling, to make the audience laugh at Pyle, and thereby be complicit in his destruction. The film makes me ask questions of my own behaviour and whether I want to be part of the group, laughing at the weakest in order to avoid being the one the group tun on next (you'll note Joker tried to help Pyle at first, even helping him keep his identity by calling him by his name, Leonard, before he gives up on Pyle and joins in with the punishment, even while still not wishing to do so, beating Pyle all the harder for making him feel so guilty).

I still laugh at the abuse of pyle while watching the film, but it is very uneasy laughter these days, cos it really aint all THAT funny to humiliate someone so much they lose the will to live! 


Absolutely. The two halves of the movie are completely co-dependent.

The cut to "me so horny" only works as brilliantly as it does in establishing the desmadre the troops walked into on Vietnamese soil, because it comes off the back of something absolutely horrific. I remember Channel 4 or ITV fucking the film up horribly on a late night screening by putting a 5 minute ad break slap bang in between the two parts.

A screenwriter friend recently pointed something out to me by way of a very telling question:

"How many Vietnamese troops do you actually see fighting in this movie? And when you do see them, who are they and what state are they in?"

And people say that this is a poor example of Kubrick's work. Pfffffffff...


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- 24/8/2009 3:06:57 AM   
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While the first half is satire at its best, the second half wallows in stupidity

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wtf empire? - 19/9/2009 9:48:00 AM   
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this movie is a bloody awesome war epic. the scenes with sergeant hartman are mint and the war scenes are extremely moving. i don't know what negative drug that that tight ass ian nathan was on while
watching this brilliant film because it is easily one of kubricks best.

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wtf empire? - 19/9/2009 9:48:03 AM   
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this movie is a bloody awesome war epic. the scenes with sergeant hartman are mint and the war scenes are extremely moving. i don't know what negative drug that that tight ass ian nathan was on while
watching this brilliant film because it is easily one of kubricks best.

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