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Top 100 British Films of All Time POLL - Discussion Thread - 11/4/2010 7:28:08 PM   
elab49


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Empire Forums Top 100 British Films of All Time!

Now the Empire 1000 has finished, we thought this might be a bit of fun. Open to anyone who can think of a list of (we were thinking) 50 British Films they know and love. Silents, comedies, documentaries, shorts – from Ealing to Working Title, from documentary realism to the best of costume drama.

There may, particularly for later films, be some quibbles over what makes a film British. Upfront we would make the stipulation that the investment and creative talent be predominantly from the UK. US studios filming in the UK and using UK technical expertise won't count, e.g – we'll be mainly looking at British money, British writers and British directors. But, again, this won't be an absolute – Brazilian Cavalcanti and Hungarian Pressburger made unquestionably British films. IMDB will be a guide but not an absolute determining factor. The counters will have a final vote on any queries.

At the moment we will accept lists of either 25 or 50 films to try and allow as many people to take part as possible. Lists should be with us by June 30th to  empirebritlist@hotmail.co.uk - counters are me and Rawlinson.

British Lists out there - thanks to Ultimo/TRM for suggested links

BFI List here

Observer Lists here and here

British films in the Empire Top 1000 here and here

A top 20 Scottish Films here NB Braveheart is not allowed

Britmovie list

Screenonline here

List Participants (ie actually said they'll try to send lists!). Bold for list Received.

1. Rawlinson
2. Elab49
3. Swordsandsandals
4. Fritzlfan
5. Rinc
6. Miles Messervy 007
7. Piles
8. TRM
9. Fernetcontonica
10. Ultimo Lee
11. Rick-7
12 Rhubarb
13. Harry Lime
14. Jamesbondguy
15. Frankie
16 Shawshank Prisoner
17 Eraserhead
18 HomerSimpson_Esq
19. Siegfried
20. Gimli the Dwarf
21. Rebal Scum
22. Hiptobesquare_x
23. Elab's 'Im Indoors
24. Mrs Rawlinson



Disallowed Films

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 7:31:22 PM   
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Nice idea.

What about Kubrick's films from Lolita onwards? I'd say A Clockwork Orange was British, certainly. I'm not sure about the rest.

June 30th seems find to me.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 7:54:40 PM   
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You will be unsurprised to know that you've immediately hit on the director we've already had the most discussion about Fritzl!

It is a problem - and I've spent a good bit of time looking through the production side/money on this. From what I can see the UK side is the registered co. or location and the company is there more or less there in name only. He was American for the creative side (location is irrelevant and UK directors making US films living in the US wouldn't be included) and the money was virtually always American.  So if we're going for predominantly creatively and financially UK it would possibly fail on both sides.

I think we'll see how it goes with Kubrick, but I can see it coming down to an individual decision on each film that someone would like to include! He is a bit of a bugger, really.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 9:39:49 PM   
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Really looking forward to this. I'd better hurry up and finish my Powell & Pressburger boxset!

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 9:49:55 PM   
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Isn't 50 a bit too much? Great idea though. We need to keep a running list of ambiguous films, I'll throw in a few:
Bond films
Full Metal Jacket
Blow-Up
The Third Man
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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 9:54:09 PM   
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I think we'll see how it goes with Kubrick, but I can see it coming down to an individual decision on each film that someone would like to include! He is a bit of a bugger, really.



I'll put forward ACO and Barry Lyndon for inclusion. They aren't my favourites of his, but I'd say they were the most British, so to speak.


As for the amount, I've put my favourites together and I only have 30. There are more, of course, but that's with one or two per director.


Bond films
A Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
Full Metal Jacket
Blow-Up
The Third Man
Lawrence of Arabia



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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:00:52 PM   
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Are those queries for inclusion?

Shorts etc are included as well. We weren't sure how many might be right in terms of list size, though  - if the general view is that 50 is a bit high, then it'll be looked at again to try and make sure as many people as would like to can take part.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:08:51 PM   
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How about you can do a top 50 then do it, but if you can't then do a top 20. Same points for the top films.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:12:58 PM   
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Sorry - I hadn't realised the list was from Miles post

For me - most of the Bonds would be British IMO. The Craig ones I'm not so sure. Although I don't see that being an issue for Miles

Third Man is British - it's been discussed on here before. The AFI including it was a joke but, specifically, they included the reworked opening from the American producer, not the film proper which now sits, as it should, in the BFI list.

As is Lawrence - I'm not sure what the question mark on that is?

Antonioni is a good question. I'll have a look. What do you think, Miles?

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:14:35 PM   
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I hadn't considered that model before ,Rinc, but when I was doing the calcs for the Decade list a couple of 10s had been included among the 20s, and that seemed kind of OK and could work, I think.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:18:07 PM   
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As is Lawrence - I'm not sure what the question mark on that is?



Just the fact it has appeared in some 'best of American' lists, such as AFI's. American producers and all that.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:20:48 PM   
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AFI are frakkin' idiots. I'm really not forgiving the attempt to appropriate Third Man. Basically, if an American watched the film it apparently means it is eligible. It's like Ireland and rugby and/or football.

Didn't we have a thread yonks ago with Spielberg hailing it as some kind of lost American film as well?


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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:25:22 PM   
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Sorry - I hadn't realised the list was from Miles post

For me - most of the Bonds would be British IMO. The Craig ones I'm not so sure. Although I don't see that being an issue for Miles
Hey, I like Quantum of Solace Top 50 British films not so much. Cool.
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Third Man is British - it's been discussed on here before. The AFI including it was a joke but, specifically, they included the reworked opening from the American producer, not the film proper which now sits, as it should, in the BFI list.

As is Lawrence - I'm not sure what the question mark on that is?
Yeah that's what I thought, just wanted to confirm.
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Antonioni is a good question. I'll have a look. What do you think, Miles?
It's a tough one. It's more British than Italian so I'd probably stick with that. Not sure about the funding, just that it shows the Swinging Sixties and is in English with renowned British actors...

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:34:24 PM   
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I think the cultural factor might also be considered in the case of question marks - something that is markedly British above all else? Maybe Rawlinson can comment on that to when he's around. It would make the Bond's easier.

I think we'd want to avoid foreign directors and foreign money being included just because they make something set in Britain. Lots of grey area though. Who funded Blow-Up?

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:41:02 PM   
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I went onto wikipedia after reading this thread to see just how many British films i've seen up until now and on wikipedia these were all the ones I had seen that were classified as "British Films" I wonder though are they ? which would you say don't belong ?

I didn't hold back I simply listed everything i've seen so far. There are some bad films in here it's not a best of list just wondering what others classifiy as yeh or nah.

Most of these I think are universally considered "British Films" there maybe an argument for some but most do fit the bill.

The Lodger: A Story of the London Fog, Juno and the Paycock, Murder!, Rich and Strange, The Man Who Knew Too Much, The 39 Steps, Sabotage, Secret Agent, The Edge of the World, Young and Innocent, The Lady Vanishes, An Airman's Letter to His Mother, 49th Parallel, One of Our Aircraft is Missing, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Aventure Malgache, Bon Voyage, A Canterbury Tale, Brief Encounter, Dead of Night, I Know Where I'm Going, Great Expectations, A Matter of Life and Death, Black Narcissus, Odd Man Out, Hamlet, Oliver Twist, The Red Shoes, Kind Hearts and Coronets, The Third Man, A Christmas Carol, Animal Farm, The Dam Busters, The Ladykillers, Richard III, The Battle of the River Plate, Dracula (Hammer), The Horse's Mouth, The Hound of the Baskervilles (Hammer), The Mummy (Hammer), Sapphire, Peeping Tom, Billy Lair, The Gorgon (Hammer), The Wrong Arm of the Law, Zulu, The Ipcress File, Morgan!, One Million Years B.C. (Hammer), The Italian Job, Women in Love, The Devils, Get Carter, Gumshoe, Walkabout, Pulp, Don't Look Now, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, The Duellists, The Man Who Fell to Earth,Revenge of the Pink Panther, Bad Timing, The Long Good Friday, The Draughtsman's Contract, Comfort and Joy, The Company of Wolves, The Hit, Withnail and I, The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain, Four Weddings and a Funeral, Hidden Agenda
Life is Sweet, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, Drowning by Numbers, Shallow Grave, Secrets and Lies, The Full Monty, The General, Little Voice, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Waking Ned, Dog Soldiers, Touching the Void, Shaun of the Dead, Revolver, Hot Fuzz, Son of Rambow


Here's are the one's that were classified as British on wikipedia but what would you say ?

Some of these are questionable and some look like they were simply added because of a director, source material, shot in britian, heavily british casted or an arengment of these factors.

Under Capricorn, Stage Fright, African Queen, Moulin Rouge, Beat the Devil, Summertime, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Fire Down Below, The Guns of Navarone, Dr. No, Lawrence of Arabia (AFI?), From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, The Collector, Doctor Zhivago, The Heroes of Telemark, The Hill, The Masque of the Red Death, Othello (1965), The Spy Who Came in from the Cold, Thunderball, Blowup, Fahrenheit 451, Casino Royale, You Only Live Twice, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Romeo and Juliet (1968), Where Eagles Dare, Witchfinder General, The Assassination Bureau, Battle of Britain, A Clockwork Orange, Murphy's War, Straw Dogs, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Asylum, Frenzy, Sleuth, The Day of the Jackal, The Legend of Hell House, Live and Let Die, The Mackintosh Man, The Black Windmill, Juggernaut, The Man With the Golden Gun, Murder on the Orient Express, The Odessa File, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother, Barry Lyndon, The Man Who Would Be King, Bugsy Malone, A Bridge Too Far, The Spy Who Loved Me, Death on the Nile, Hanover Street, Murder by Decree, Moonraker, Tess, The Elephant Man, Flash Gordon, The Shining, An American Werewolf in London, The Dogs of War, Eye of the Needle, Gandhi, Pink Floyd The Wall, Educating Rita, Local Hero, Octopussy, The Emerald Forest, A View to a Kill, The Fly (?), The Mission, Sid and Nancy, The Dead, Hope and Glory, The Living Daylights, White Of The Eye, A Fish Called Wanda, The Lair of the White Worm, Without a Clue, Henry V (Branagh), Licence to Kill, Memphis Belle, Nuns on the Run, Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead, King Ralph, Naked Launch, Chaplin, In the Name of the Father, Much Ado About Nothing, The Browning Version (1994), Goldeneye, Sense and Sensibility (Ang Lee), Hamlet (Branagh), Trainspotting, Event Horizon, Tomorrow Never Dies, Elizabeth, Felicia's Journey, The World Is Not Enough, The Crying Game, The Beach, Billy Elliot, Sexy Beast, Snatch, Bridget Jones's Diary, Gosford Park, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, The Hole, Wit, 28 Days Later, About a Boy, Die another Day, The Reckoning, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Layer Cake, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, The Constant Gardener, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, V for Vendetta, Casino Royale, Children of Men, The Last King of Scotland, 28 Weeks Later, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, The Bank Job, The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian., Doomsday, Quantum of Solace, RocknRolla, Slumdog Millionaire, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:45:40 PM   
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First lot are all fine I think - Dog Soldiers will obviously be in my 50

On to the 2nd.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:47:27 PM   
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I have no idea whatsoever as to what films are british and what aren't. I mean, when Slumdog Millionaire won bi at the Oscars, everyone shouted 'The Brits are coming' or whatever. Didn't mean much to me.

What about people like Hitchcock? Didn't he have a british and american stage?

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 10:53:02 PM   
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Hitchcock has British and American films - Rebecca was the first American, and a couple of British propaganda efforts aside, most for the next couple of decades or so are American. And then he kind of came home.

For the most part could people just ask about films they seriously want to include on their lists? It will save me using an entire week checking every single film!

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:06:16 PM   
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I am definitely up for this, though I want to plug a load of gaps in my viewing. June for a deadline? Awesome.

EDIT: What of Cathy Come Home? I guess it's a feature length TV episode but it's almightily awesome and I'd like to include it in my list?


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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:13:37 PM   
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What about Harry Potter movies?

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:17:26 PM   
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What about 'Miles' Mom'? It's made with British money but has Russian talent.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:20:18 PM   
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Harry Potter - it's in the list I'm going through above but, US money aside, I'd say creatively/culturally it is British. That's just me though - I have problems with Azkaban - the best - which is so clearly down to a non-Brit! But I think the cultural thing trumps that.

Cathy Come Home - is a TV landmark, but as you all know Rawlinson and I fundamentally disagree on the TV/Film split! So pending on that one.



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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:25:01 PM   
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I agree on Harry Potter, elab That's the argument I've been having with my film studies teacher when in our "Britain - Swinging Sixties" he brought up the question of what is a British film...

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:30:44 PM   
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For the most part could people just ask about films they seriously want to include on their lists? It will save me using an entire week checking every single film!


'kay, well first and foremost, I think wiki lists Gladiator as a British film? Why and how? I know Scott is british (south shields to be precise) but it doesn't seem like a british film.


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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:33:55 PM   
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Funding/tax breaks.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:38:15 PM   
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For the most part could people just ask about films they seriously want to include on their lists? It will save me using an entire week checking every single film!


'kay, well first and foremost, I think wiki lists Gladiator as a British film? Why and how? I know Scott is british (south shields to be precise) but it doesn't seem like a british film.



Because despite Russell Crow being an Australian playing a Spaniard in the Roman army, he played it with an English accent.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:48:49 PM   
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And the tax break lot - registered companies here just to take advantage so it looks more British than it is - are the ones we're trying to take out unless the money and creative talent are genuinely predominantly British.

African Queen,
Moulin Rouge,
Beat the Devil,
Fire Down Below,
The Guns of Navarone, American money, writer – UK director/author
The Heroes of Telemark,
Fahrenheit 451, Might be UK funding, but clearly creatively foreign
Casino Royale, Fuck knows – is anyone actually voting for this
Romeo and Juliet (1968),
Where Eagles Dare, (American money and director, british writer and actors)
Straw Dogs,
The Mackintosh Man, ,
The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother,
A Bridge Too Far, - I'd say no. US money and writers – too much a mixed effort to be British.
Hanover Street,
Tess,
The Elephant Man,
The Shining,
An American Werewolf in London,
The Fly (?),
Without a Clue,
King Ralph,
Naked Launch,
Chaplin,
Sense and Sensibility (foreign money, foreign director – is this sufficiently THompson's film or is it Lees?
 Event Horizon,
Felicia's Journey,
Gosford Park,
Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe,
The Constant Gardener, - I'd say yes with the UK Funding Council being the tipping point, but I'd accept an argument against it.
V for Vendetta,
Children of Men –2 minds on this one thanks to Cuaron's distinctive presence. I'd say no.

this is my take on the list above, with a few queries o/s - deleted are either British are already asked about. Gladiator I'd say US - the UK presence is really the directors production company, not the money. Scott has been making American films for a while now. The question is - are any of his eligible as British?

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:50:29 PM   
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Casino Royale, Fuck knows – is anyone actually voting for this
1967? Fuck yes.

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RE: Empire Forums - Top 100 British Films of All Time P... - 11/4/2010 11:53:56 PM   
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Bugger.

I'd possibly say American, then. I mean, they only agree certain directors did certain scenes and there was clearly no-one in overall creative control. And I do loathe saying anything that includes Guest and Mankowitz isn't British. But this just feels more American to me, personally.

Can you not just vote for The Day the Earth Caught Fire, instead?

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ORIGINAL: Deviation] LIKE AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS TOO. IT MADE ME LAUGH A LOT AND THOUGHT IT WAS WITTY. ALSO I FEEL SLOWLY DYING INSIDE. I KEEP AGREEING WITH ELAB.


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