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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 5:55:06 PM   
Fluke Skywalker


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Does anyone else think the Tories will be regretting not giving David Davis the leadership over Cameron, now? I think he would have had a much more popular touch than Cameron, and probably avoided all the toff references that hang around him.


I think Cameron comes across pretty well and is good choice - the Tories big problem is not having clear policies and being proven badly wrong over the handling of the credit crunch.

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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 6:08:33 PM   
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I say add an opinion poll to the thread and find out who the Empires forumites would vote in from the three main parties!

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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 6:08:39 PM   
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I had a dream last night that Cameron was doing a one man show, and at one point he started doing a moonwalk across the stage whilst reciting his policies. While doing it though he kept forgetting his lines and had to do it over and over and over and over...




Someone in my dream turned to me at this point and said "You know, whileI don't agree with his policies, the man does a good moonwalk"




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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 6:33:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fluke Skywalker

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ORIGINAL: matty_b

Does anyone else think the Tories will be regretting not giving David Davis the leadership over Cameron, now? I think he would have had a much more popular touch than Cameron, and probably avoided all the toff references that hang around him.


I think Cameron comes across pretty well and is good choice - the Tories big problem is not having clear policies and being proven badly wrong over the handling of the credit crunch.



Considering how unpopular Brown is, the fact Cameron isn't on a cakewalk to Number 10 and instead has had huge gaps in opinion polls whittled down to virtually nothing suggests that he's neither coming across well nor a good choice.

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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 8:37:25 PM   
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Anyone else see this?

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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 8:40:59 PM   
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Interesting. I wonder if the Queen would actually do something vaguely useful and intervene in the case of a hung parliament? Also, I wonder what the odds you'd get for having two elections in the same year...

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RE: The General Election - 31/3/2010 9:05:11 PM   
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Well in 1974 there were two elections. In the first one in Feb the Tories actually got more seats, but couldn't form a government, so Labour got in with a coalition. By October they realised the limitations of having a coalition so they held another election and won by something like 3 seats. So it's not without precedent, but very rare nonetheless.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 9:00:08 AM   
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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 9:01:34 AM   
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Looks like today is a great day to launch new campaigns...

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 9:02:17 AM   
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Genius!



http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/01/labour-gordon-brown-hard-man



Scrap scrap scrap!

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 9:54:34 AM   
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http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

Have you seen this? A site that lists the policies and figures out which party you actually support policy-wise rather than blindly just following personalities.

Despite voting Lib Dem all this time, apparantly i'm 75% green and 25% conservative.


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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:11:16 AM   
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I got 75% Tory and 25% Green Party.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:17:28 AM   
DJ Satan


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http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

Have you seen this? A site that lists the policies and figures out which party you actually support policy-wise rather than blindly just following personalities.

Despite voting Lib Dem all this time, apparantly i'm 75% green and 25% conservative.


Don't do it!
http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/09/is-the-green-party-anti-science/

Go for the Tories instead.


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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:40:26 AM   
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The Greens do have some crazy policies tucked away in their manifesto. I remember almost laughing at how ridiculous and in some cases naive some of them were when I read it.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:53:45 AM   
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Yeah, I was toying for voting Green at the last election cos, you know, I worry about the environment and shit, but then I read their policies. Mentalists.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:57:43 AM   
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I always remember when they first appeared on the scene in the eighties when I heard the Green Party be compared to a tomato. They may appear green at first but then they turn red as their other policies tend to be somewhat left of the communist party.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 10:57:50 AM   
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Anyone else see this?

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A scary scary thought...

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 11:07:10 AM   
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I think Cameron comes across pretty well and is good choice - the Tories big problem is not having clear policies and being proven badly wrong over the handling of the credit crunch.


Agreed, I honestly think the Conservatives would be walking it if it wasn't for George Osbourne. I just dont like the bloke... if they'd had a credible Shadow Chancellor the election would be a formality.
However, Darling and Brown are a far worse prospect imho. I've voted Labour in the past, but, as with the Tories in 97, it's time for a change again... Any Political Party in power for too long is a bad thing, power does ultimately corrupt and PM's and Ministers become complacent. Labour became extremely complacenent with the economy and MUST pay the price, this and the Iraq shambles are the main reasons why I'll be voting for Conservatives this time round. I just wish Vince Cable was the Shadow Chancellor... I love that guy.  I also think that Cameron needs to start utilising William Hague more... he's been lying low since all the Lord Ashcroft stuff, but he is the single best speaker the Tories have at their disposal. I think he's now matured since his disasterous stint as leader. They need to use his experience and sharp intellect as much as possible.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 11:21:00 AM   
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I remember reading that Blair was genuinely worried when Hague took over as leader cos apparently he's that sharp. Not sharp enough to turn down that ridiculous cap, though

Agree with you about Cable, as I guess most people do. I'd hazard a lot of people will vote Lib Dem on Cable alone. I disagree with you to some extent about Osbourne putting people off - I mean, he clearly does, but I don't think he's the be all and end all of the Tories lack of popularity.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 11:44:08 AM   
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I'll always maintain that if it weren't for his voice and the way he looks, Hague would have had more of a chance. He's incredibly intelligent and witty and probably the best debater around. Not that I would ever have voted for him, but he could have given Labour real problems.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 11:56:36 AM   
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I shall be voting Tory.

Down with Brown


When we're living in the middle of the next couple of decades of dark Tory reign, I'll know who to blame, then.


Really because I thought here we are living in dark times under Labour.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 12:48:34 PM   
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Genius!



http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/01/labour-gordon-brown-hard-man



This is either the best April Fools gag I've seen in a while or the worst strategy decision ever. I'm thinking the former I particularly liked this bit

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One tactic being discussed involves provoking a physical confrontation at one of the three ground-breaking TV debates between the candidates. In this scenario, Brown, instead of responding to a point made by Cameron, would walk over from his microphone with an exaggerated silent display of self-control, bring his face to within an inch of the Tory leader's, and in a subdued voice, ask "what did you just say?", before delivering a single well-aimed blow to his opponent's face, followed by a headlock if required.


Though the whole thing had me laughing

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 12:59:13 PM   
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I got 75% Tory and 25% Green Party.


50% Lib Dem, and 25% for both Labour and Tory.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:02:30 PM   
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I got 75% Tory and 25% Green Party.


50% Lib Dem, and 25% for both Labour and Tory.


Should I vote Tory then?

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:08:54 PM   
DJ Satan


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ORIGINAL: paul.mccluskey

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ORIGINAL: HIM

I got 75% Tory and 25% Green Party.


50% Lib Dem, and 25% for both Labour and Tory.


Should I vote Tory then?

Go on. It's the only thing that makes sense.


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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:09:30 PM   
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44.44% Labour was my highest. Though to be honest some of them I didn't really want to vote for any of them. It was fun spotting the BNP policies though, hint... the're usually the short, vague, not very well thought out ones that sound stupid like "we will deport everyone who's living here illegally".... Yes... great... how?

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:12:19 PM   
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33.33% Lib Dem.

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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:25:37 PM   
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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 1:26:03 PM   
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44.44% Labour was my highest. Though to be honest some of them I didn't really want to vote for any of them. It was fun spotting the BNP policies though, hint... the're usually the short, vague, not very well thought out ones that sound stupid like "we will deport everyone who's living here illegally".... Yes... great... how?

I looked at the crime ones first and thought "I don't want to vote for any of these" and left it at that.


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RE: The General Election - 1/4/2010 2:00:08 PM   
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