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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:01:16 AM   
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Ohayou, phubbs. Hajime ma shite?

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:02:12 AM   
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Lol

I live in London. When I see you on public transport I'm going to loudly speak in a foreign language and THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.


You make Phubbs and therefore all of us fucking sick. GO HOME YOU ABOMINATION.


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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:02:38 AM   
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Does Australia have mass housing problems? an rapidly increasing population? job issues? lack of space? people flooding in from all over with no trades or skills?

If the answer is no then your immigration system works, which it does. The points system to get in is very strict, I know. The fact the Aussies put immigrants on these islands is because they don't accept just anyone in to the country, YOU NEED TO OFFER THE COUNTRY SOMETHING SO THEY KNOW YOU WON'T DEPEND ON THE STATE. That's completely right and how it should be, like I said many many now want that system here.


I'm not even going to get into this because clearly neither of us are going to have a reasonable debate on this issue. And it's not because I can't argue the point, it's because I really don't want too.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:06:22 AM   
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Lol

I live in London. When I see you on public transport I'm going to loudly speak in a foreign language and THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.


You make Phubbs and therefore all of us fucking sick. GO HOME YOU ABOMINATION.


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If I can't read it it means you are a terrorist, and this page has been forwarded to Theresa May. Good luck you terrorist jihader.


Tíocfaidh ár lá, ye cute hoor.


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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:06:37 AM   
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Does Australia have mass housing problems? an rapidly increasing population? job issues? lack of space? people flooding in from all over with no trades or skills?

If the answer is no then your immigration system works, which it does. The points system to get in is very strict, I know. The fact the Aussies put immigrants on these islands is because they don't accept just anyone in to the country, YOU NEED TO OFFER THE COUNTRY SOMETHING SO THEY KNOW YOU WON'T DEPEND ON THE STATE. That's completely right and how it should be, like I said many many now want that system here.


I'm not even going to get into this because clearly neither of us are going to have a reasonable debate on this issue. And it's not because I can't argue the point, it's because I really don't want too.


My sister (and I was geniune about her moving out there - not about the supremacy thing though) has a Phd and is a highly qualified conservationist. Unfortunately, that doesn't count nearly as much as my fuckup brother who can craft a decent mitre joint

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:08:12 AM   
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Does Australia have mass housing problems? an rapidly increasing population? job issues? lack of space? people flooding in from all over with no trades or skills?

If the answer is no then your immigration system works, which it does. The points system to get in is very strict, I know. The fact the Aussies put immigrants on these islands is because they don't accept just anyone in to the country, YOU NEED TO OFFER THE COUNTRY SOMETHING SO THEY KNOW YOU WON'T DEPEND ON THE STATE. That's completely right and how it should be, like I said many many now want that system here.


Wait wait wait

To be an immigrant, you need to have skills/education so that you're employable

Yet we don't want immigrants because they'll take er jobs

So we impose restrictions to limit immigration so that immigrants are all skilled

So that they take all the skilled jobs you want to protect from nefarious immigrants

your logic

is a problem

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:11:28 AM   
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No..I'm saying Australia and Canada are well known for not allowing people into the country unless they can prove they are able to support themselves for a certain time without depending on the state.

If you have a skill or trade like plumber, mechanic etc...then you will probably get in as they are valued skills.

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha. This is to protect the countries from what is happening in the UK basically, makes sense and its what the UK needs asap!.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:13:10 AM   
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Tíocfaidh ár lá, ye cute hoor.




If 'cute hoor' is anything to go by, I get the message. And I'm blushing a little.

*Got there in the end.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:13:16 AM   
Deviation


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Does Australia have mass housing problems? an rapidly increasing population? job issues? lack of space? people flooding in from all over with no trades or skills?


Nope, we have that, problem is that we're dealing with people here and some of us don't wish to be as brutal as other countries are, these are people coming from truly problematic places (ie, like war-torn Somalia), and some of the conditions the migrants are in in the detention centres or the open centre are somewhat horrific and on the level of a Kenyan refugee camp.

Btw, migrants with skills take jobs, and frankly I don't know what means today. It's not as if a job is by right of law yours.

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If the answer is no then your immigration system works, which it does. The points system to get in is very strict, I know. The fact the Aussies put immigrants on these islands is because they don't accept just anyone in to the country, YOU NEED TO OFFER THE COUNTRY SOMETHING SO THEY KNOW YOU WON'T DEPEND ON THE STATE. That's completely right and how it should be, like I said many many now want that system here.


Yeah I know, it's not as if some of these migrants actually want to work and lead a simple better life in a better country. I say we should all let them drown or starve at sea, no immgrant will reach shore and we will have solved our immigration problem. Gaddafi did it right too!

Btw, you can't talk about Australia, its situation, its people and how it works using your own logic, you're on the other side of the planet.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:15:56 AM   
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I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:17:18 AM   
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If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha.


Kind of like what we can do in other EU countries (trust me - I know a few people who have done). Those islands are pretty nice.


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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:17:50 AM   
Deviation


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I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Yeah but you haven't lived. you have been disqualified using your logic to comment about it.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:18:06 AM   
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I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Did you decide against it because you were worried about being a drain on Australian society? Or did you not want to take any of those jerbs from honest hard workin Australians?

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:18:07 AM   
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No..I'm saying Australia and Canada are well known for not allowing people into the country unless they can prove they are able to support themselves for a certain time without depending on the state.

If you have a skill or trade like plumber, mechanic etc...then you will probably get in as they are valued skills.

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha. This is to protect the countries from what is happening in the UK basically, makes sense and its what the UK needs asap!.


Do you have statistics to back up your hysteria about immigrants coming in and going straight onto the benefit and never leaving it?

Like, seriously, how low your opinion is of your fellow man that you think the only reason that asylum seekers and immigrants come to the UK is to leech of the state and not, say, to get opportunities to work and earn significantly more than they could ever earn in their homeland (you know, to contribute), or to escape violent oppession.

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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:19:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phubbs

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha.


Kind of like what we can do in other EU countries (trust me - I know a few people who have done).



Exactly, this is what happens in the UK from all over Europe, since we all joined the EU, insane. Thing is the UK is stupid enough to actually hand out benefits and housing to these people!! before dealing with their own people!!.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:19:28 AM   
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Btw, you can't talk about Australia, its situation, its people and how it works using your own logic, you're on the other side of the planet.



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As I've said to people before, come live in London for a year or so and get a clue, until then you have no real right to even comment on how the UK works, jesus!



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I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.




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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:22:24 AM   
Deviation


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quote:

ORIGINAL: superdan


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha.


Kind of like what we can do in other EU countries (trust me - I know a few people who have done).



Exactly, this is what happens in the UK from all over Europe, since we all joined the EU, insane. Thing is the UK is stupid enough to actually hand out benefits and housing to these people!! before dealing with their own people!!.



Malta does that, it is genuinely horrible and is not only causing psychological stress to the migrants but also the soldiers gaurding them. Seeing the occasional riot in the detention centres is fun too.

Wonderful.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:23:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

No..I'm saying Australia and Canada are well known for not allowing people into the country unless they can prove they are able to support themselves for a certain time without depending on the state.

If you have a skill or trade like plumber, mechanic etc...then you will probably get in as they are valued skills.

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha. This is to protect the countries from what is happening in the UK basically, makes sense and its what the UK needs asap!.


Do you have statistics to back up your hysteria about immigrants coming in and going straight onto the benefit and never leaving it?

Like, seriously, how low your opinion is of your fellow man that you think the only reason that asylum seekers and immigrants come to the UK is to leech of the state and not, say, to get opportunities to work and earn significantly more than they could ever earn in their homeland (you know, to contribute), or to escape violent oppession.



Haha oh please! how you doing in your little utopia there? for f**ks sake!. Of course not EVERYONE does that but the UK does have a problem with that, the government/stats try to cover it but its common knowledge because I live in London and see it happening. Everyone knows about it, you could ask most British folk of any background, I also know people who work in the Home Office too.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:24:48 AM   
Phubbs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Did you decide against it because you were worried about being a drain on Australian society? Or did you not want to take any of those jerbs from honest hard workin Australians?



Couldn't get in, failed the points test.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:27:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phubbs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Olaf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Did you decide against it because you were worried about being a drain on Australian society? Or did you not want to take any of those jerbs from honest hard workin Australians?



Couldn't get in, failed the points test.


So the Australian government deemed you to be a drain on their society? Unfortunate.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:27:27 AM   
Deviation


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ORIGINAL: Phubbs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Pigeon Army


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

No..I'm saying Australia and Canada are well known for not allowing people into the country unless they can prove they are able to support themselves for a certain time without depending on the state.

If you have a skill or trade like plumber, mechanic etc...then you will probably get in as they are valued skills.

If you just turn up with zero money and expect to walk in and be offered a home and benefits then you will probably end up on one of the islands haha. This is to protect the countries from what is happening in the UK basically, makes sense and its what the UK needs asap!.


Do you have statistics to back up your hysteria about immigrants coming in and going straight onto the benefit and never leaving it?

Like, seriously, how low your opinion is of your fellow man that you think the only reason that asylum seekers and immigrants come to the UK is to leech of the state and not, say, to get opportunities to work and earn significantly more than they could ever earn in their homeland (you know, to contribute), or to escape violent oppession.



Haha oh please! how you doing in your little utopia there? for f**ks sake!. Of course not EVERYONE does that but the UK does have a problem with that, the government/stats try to cover it but its common knowledge because I live in London and see it happening. Everyone knows about it, you could ask most British folk of any background, I also know people who work in the Home Office too.



Oh please, you should know that anecdoctal "evidence" is absolutely nothing in the face of stone-cold statistics, which you have none other then conspiracy theories.

Oh and btw, one thing about your perception on things, including mine and everyone's here, it is flawed as fuck and there's a reason we don't use it as immediate confirmation. The amount of times I've seen locals here talking shit and pretending its true because they live here is immense, even if they got it totally wrong.



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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:28:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Olaf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Did you decide against it because you were worried about being a drain on Australian society? Or did you not want to take any of those jerbs from honest hard workin Australians?



Couldn't get in, failed the points test.


So the Australian government deemed you to be a drain on their society? Unfortunate.



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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:29:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Olaf


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phubbs

I have applied to live in Oz before :) its hard.


Did you decide against it because you were worried about being a drain on Australian society? Or did you not want to take any of those jerbs from honest hard workin Australians?



Couldn't get in, failed the points test.


So the Australian government deemed you to be a drain on their society? Unfortunate.



Guess so *shrugs* my current work experience was not good enough and I have no family there to assist and I'm not rich hehe so yes.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:34:37 AM   
Deviation


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So that pretty much bans you from talking about Australia. Soz bro.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:36:31 AM   
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Were you disappointed to be turned away from Australia? Or were you pleased to know that the Australian government's vigilant screening process helped prevent a drain on society like yourself from being allowed to enter? Because you are a drain on society, you understand.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:43:46 AM   
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I wonder how one must feel being a drain on society. It must give one an existential feeling.

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There are certainly times where calling a person a cunt is not only reasonable, it is a gross understatement.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:50:23 AM   
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I wonder how one must feel being a drain on society. It must give one an existential feeling.


I living it right now. It just means you watch a lot of E4 and feel like a cunt for two weeks until you go to the dolescum office. Then you feel like a massive cunt.

I don't know if that is existential or not really.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:53:15 AM   
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Not really a drain on the state as that would mean I would suck on benefits the minute I arrive. I would have tried to get a job in my field of work before going. There are areas of work Aus doesn't require.

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 3:55:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Deviation

I wonder how one must feel being a drain on society. It must give one an existential feeling.


I living it right now. It just means you watch a lot of E4 and feel like a cunt for two weeks until you go to the dolescum office. Then you feel like a massive cunt.

I don't know if that is existential or not really.


Get a job you bum!!! lol!!

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RE: The British Politics Thread - 12/12/2012 4:12:50 AM   
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the government/stats try to cover it but its common knowledge because I live in London and see it happening. Everyone knows about it, you could ask most British folk of any background, I also know people who work in the Home Office too.



I'm really not sure how peddling conspiracy theories about a massive multi-government immigration cover-up and insisting on the veracity of anecdotal experiences we can't possibly independently verify is meant to help your case.

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ORIGINAL: Phubbs

Not really a drain on the state as that would mean I would suck on benefits the minute I arrive. I would have tried to get a job in my field of work before going. There are areas of work Aus doesn't require.


But you're an outlier, aren't you! No other immigrant is like you. They're all irresponsible and coming in just to suckle on the teat of the government.

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She's supposed to be 13! I'd want her to be very attractive though


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